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I was interviewed for a long term contract

By zlitocook ·
Last week and I had an interview with the head of IT was not what I expected. They questioned me on alot of XP and server 2003 topics but then asked what I know about Ghost, cloning and other copying programs. I do get these questions sometimes but they wanted to know if I could copy protected CD's or DVD's!
I said yes I have done this before to help protect paid for programs. To copy one copy is ok to protect the original. I said I have no problem with this as long as they have the OEM with box or CD case with the OEM.
I have been a contractor for awhile and I know that some companies protect thier software and back up all of thier paid for software as much as they can.
The contracting company called me back the next day and asked if I would start on Monday.
I asked one question. What are they copying and why? I was never called back to the company or the contractor.
What do you think, should you copy software if the company has not paid for it? Or if the company you work for is using more software then they have paid for?
I was a shape goat once in 99 and will not be there a second time.


I know a person in the company he said they use every thing from Windows for work groups (that was the first Windows with a GUI) to Win98 and NT. But they have never had a true copy or Licence for any of those.
They needed a person to copy the copies they have and go to the other locations and ether reload or fix there problems.
I was reading the other posts about this and found one that said this was another post about doing what you should not, Well there are alot of companys that still do this and you still need to watch out for it!

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Think about your work environment

by cynth113 In reply to This is analogous to the ...

Couldn't have said it better than James. Do you really want to work in an environment where the hiring criteria includes willingness to perpetuate software piracy? If they don't care about the legality or morality of this (or how it might impact you), what else won't they care about? If nothing else, think of your comfort and stress levels--is this even worth a second thought?!

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You can incur personal liability

by jesc In reply to I was interviewed for a l ...

If you are an IT Professional, particularly if your background is in management or you have a degeree, you can be held to a high standard. Many assume that they can hide behind the fact that their boss told them to install illegal software, saying they were just following orders. That is not the case. You can be found personally libel for your actions. It is not worth going to prison or losing your house to take the chance and participate in illegal activity.

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Additionally, Many companies

by faradhi In reply to You can incur personal li ...

indemnify themselves by writing against the practice in their policies. That leaves you out in the cold.

I have had something similar occur when I was working for my previous employer. They wanted me to give out the MS volume license key to an executive to install XP at home. I flat refused because the licensing forbids it. That was one of the reasons I left.

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Put it in writing?

by jesc In reply to Additionally, Many compan ...

I have had some evil enjoyment by writing an email to the manager stating that in my professional opinion it would be against our licensing agreement. On the other hand I am not a lawyer. If they are more qualified to interpret the law and wish to take a legal stand for the company based on their legal experise they could send me an email stating such and I would comply based on their authority. I would also keep a copy of their response in writing for my records. It was surprising how fast a bicycle can go in reverse when someone starts back pedalling.

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Exactly.

by faradhi In reply to Put it in writing?

When I stated that I would not refuse a direct order to give the VLK out but only if they put it in writing, I did not have to give the key to the exec.

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Just Making it Worse

by RUinIT2 In reply to Exactly.

Asking for something in writing because you know it is illegal before you do it is not going to shield you from anything. It will probably only **** up in your face as they have proof that you knew you were doing something illegal.

To the court: Sure I knew I was doing something illegal but this order from my boss in writing makes me innocent as he is responsible.

Sorry but this does not work. Addmitting you knew you were acting illegally only makes things worse, you cannot claim ignorance after that.

In the original case one could have given out the VLK, assuming that the company would pay the license costs, making it leagal. Or just flat out refuse it.

Most company Execs usually earn enough to buy their licenses...

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Your missing the point.

by faradhi In reply to Just Making it Worse

An exec is not going to put anything in writing instructing anyone to do anything illegal. I asked that to force him to drop the issue. It worked.

If the exec was monumentally stupid and gave me the instruction in writing, I would have forwarded the request to corporate legal and HR with a request for instructions.

The whole point of the exercise is to refuse without being insubordinate.

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Insubordinate

by vltiii In reply to Your missing the point.

I don't think that insubordination is an issue. No one can be compelled to follow an unlawful order. Your refusing to do so does not make you insubordinate and if any action had been taken against you--then you would have legal standing to sue the organization.

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Exceutivre wants "illegal" copy of XP 4 home.

by michael_orton In reply to Exactly.

this is a very common thing, most senior people want the latest XP Pro at home.
Don't give it to them, just hint where the installation code is kept, third drawer down, in red envelope> He is satisfied, you are covered and the boss is happy.

It happens all the time.
however if the senior exec is so clueless that he cant get the key for 98se, it doesn't say much for his IT skills.

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Not Liable

by Grimshiire In reply to You can incur personal li ...

Only officers of the company are liable. Everyone else is not. Fact of the matter is that it is imoral, wrong & against the law to create or accept any copied material. We have all done it in the past, but continuing to do so shows poor morals.

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