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I’m so glad we’ve had this time together

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I’m so glad we had this time together,
Just to have a laugh, or sing a song.
Seems we just get started and before you Know it
Comes the time we have to say, “So long”.

There’s a time you put aside for dreamin.
And a time for things you have to do.
The time I love the best is any evening
I can spend a moment here with you.

When the time comes and I’m feelin’ lonely
And I’m feelin’ oh so blue.
I just sit back and think of you only
And the happiness still comes through.

That’s why I’m glad we had this time together.
Cause it makes me feel like I’m along.
Seems we just get started and before you know it
Comes the time we have to say, “So Long”.

Good night everybody!

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Hope you’re not going anywhere!

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After all, I just got back.

Thanks for that….

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(tugging on earlobe) 😉

Good night, Carol.

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It’s been fun.

Why, are you leaving

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Or just confused between start a discussion and ask a question?

Oz, you know darned well

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That you never can say goodbye
No, no, no, no, I
Never can say goodbye

Even though the pain and heartache
Seems to follow me wherever I go
Though I try and try to hide my feelings
They always seem to show
Then you try to say you’re leaving me
And I always have to say no…

Tell me why
Is it so

I could go on…

You know, no one ever really leaves TR for long

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This is like the Hotel California.

AV

And just like the Eagles . . . . .

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….. when [i]Hell Freezes Over[/i]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd-4yjUS4Oo

However, this time, and all things considered (which people may or may not be aware of), there are forecasts for snow flurries, to be sure. I wouldn’t bet on this one.

Not too many people "get it"

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But I “get it”.

Damn!!!!!!

Second gem

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I found here tonight.

Goodbye, Friend.

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At least for now, as I know you’ll be back one day.

You leave us numb

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEGuVb-mtf0

Is this only a wrong number?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gqQYuipF7U

Oh, thats precious!

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Great clip. I forgot how good they were.

AV

You must have been seated in the no frills section

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCz8he36hsk

This might have been one of the best!

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Ok I have an idea….

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Oz cannot resist an argument.

Especially if we dispute his “facts”.

One of the facts he has mentioned time after time is that Canadians own more guns than Americans.

I’ve bit my tongue here, but just today I came across some pretty comprehensive stats. They are not from the gun lobby. Its actually a global policy group, supported by some European governments.

And their findings are this:
For 2007 (and I doubt much has drastically changed since)
The rate of private gun ownership in the US is 88.8 firearms per hundred people.
The rate of private gun ownership in Canada is 23.8 firearms per hundred people
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region

There is admittedly a big skew in the numbers because in Canada, handguns are much more restricted than rifles or shotguns.

Lets see if he can stay away…..

Wrong statistic to support your question

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What if 1 in 100 Americans owned 89 firearms, while 1 in 5 Canadians owned 5 guns each (both numbers rounded up).

I mean really! You know how Americans are. I’ll bet Santee, alone, owns 89!

Of course…

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I’m assuming that they’re going by REGISTERED guns. So the numbers would be no where near reality.

Maybe

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In Canada, hand guns have been tightly controlled for a long time.

But up until 2001, there was no “registration” of long guns (rifles/shotguns) in Canada. You needed to have a Firearms Acquisition Certificate to buy one, which you got after taking a safety course, and passing a criminal screening. But the sale was not registered.

Things changed in 2001 and owners of long guns acquired before then were strongly encouraged to register their guns. Many did not. Hunters and farmers actively resisted the process despite the threat of fines. It was an election issue in the last federal election.

There are of course many illegal handguns in Canada and no way to know how many. We can say for example that the majority of gang related deaths involve handguns, and that almost all of them are committed with guns that either stolen from legal owners, or illegally smuggled from the US. I have heard stats that over 50% of guns used in the commission of crimes have been illegally smuggled from the US.

I do know someone who has a dozen unregistered long guns. Ironically he won a rifle in a raffle, and had to register it.

The Conservative Party, who are currently the Federal government, but who don’t have a minority (so they can’t pass legislation without cooperation from another party) have vowed to scrap the long gun registry, which has cost a lot of money, and of course only tracks legally owned weapons which are rarely used in crimes. Many police chiefs across the country don’t want it scrapped, since they check the registry before heading to domestic disputes etc.

Secret PM to Maxwell

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The $100 wasn’t enough for you to keep your mouth shut?

Secret PM to Santee

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Who cares about a measly $100 bucks?

When the SHTF, I’m headed southwest!

P.S. Keep in mind

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We’re trying to flush-out Oz – who …… (edited because …..)

Kinda depends Max

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Are we only counting short guns or both long and short guns? Are we only counting firearms that shoot a projectile through a barrel or are we considering all distance weapons? How about bladed weapons with or without an edge?

I’m guessing here, but I would bet that I could easily match any arsenal that Santee cares to field.

Well

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Not sure I want to get into a …. measuring contest. But I do know someone with a fairly large collection of long guns. They include some historic guns that will not be fired again, inherited through the family, some guns used in competitions, some for hunting, and some just for fun. A modern blackpowder rifle, a paper cartridge military rifle from just after the American Civil war, a “pack” .22 rifle, shotguns of many sizes and purposes. And we are Canadian, eh? But, no pistols.

Sorry, WHAT kind of contest?

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😀

And the only thing I own that’s even close to a firearm is the bottle of water we squirt at the cat when he’s on the counters.

Armory, Tig

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“Arsenal” is where they are constructed, which I can and have done. I’d be surprised if you could.

I sit, covered in hungry cats

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Corrected.

Armory is indeed the word I wanted. Closest I have come to actually building them is the semi annual cleaning of them. Reminds me, it’s time to do that…

You would

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Until you mentioned it, I had been conveniently forgetting to remind my bearers.

Armory or Arsenal – either is impressive compared to …..

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….. my measly .380 pistol with a clip capacity of seven and a couple dozen boxes of ammo.

But if the S-REALLY-HTF, my ability to lose myself in the Rocky Mountains for a VERY LONG time could be priceless.

(Maybe the purchase of a good hunting rifle would be in order. Any suggestions? The smaller and lighter-weight, the better; but without compromising effectiveness, of course.)

At our age

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Your “but if” is the only reasonable solution. My dad used to say wistfully then and again about retreating to the hills with jug, dog, and gun. I was too young at the time to appreciate it, saying, “That’s not where the action is!”

That’s right, he said.

And It goes without saying…..

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Only as a last resort.

The Springfield M1A is a good (if pricey) choice

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But it comes in at almost 10 pounds. The Remington 7600 is a lever/slide action rifle that comes in either .308 or .30-06. 7-1/2 pounds for under $700. I like the 870 Express in 12-gauge. Half the price of the rifle, but the rounds tend to be larger and heavier. And you may not want to get that close to what you are shooting at…

10 pounds is too heavy (WAY TOO heavy) and a shotgun requires too close

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However, let’s discuss.

5 pounds or less. Medium to long range. What are the options?

Wow

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Price an issue? If not, the Remington Ultimate Lightweight 700 Titanium comes in at 5-1/4 pounds in .243 or .308. But I believe it’s out of production.

I don’t keep up like I used to, but I don’t know of any medium-range rifles (in useful calibers) that weigh much less than 6-7 pounds.

What are you looking to do

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Shoot something big and eat it all yourself?

I suspect

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The objective is to stop it before it gets within swinging range…

454 Casull

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Or a Freedom Arms equivalent.

Max….

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how about this?

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/su-16a/

Whats your range Max

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My old 12 gauge goose gun was good with magnum shells to about 40-50 yards. Rifled slugs can go farther, buckshot tends to be closer. It depends on the ammo, and the choke of the shotgun.

If you want a low weight rifle, maybe a Ruger Mini-14? Its about 6 and half I think. Should be able to finda good used one.

Civilian Marksmanship Program

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Max, if you belong to the right organization, or are a veteran, you qualify to purchase a former military rifle for cheap. You may have to “qualify”. The program was intended to encourage marksmanship among US civilians.

Then you might have access to an M1 carbine. It weighs about 5 lbs. Not a gun to go bear hunting with, but fine for self defence. Easy to shoot.

Or, one of these

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Relieves you of having to carry powder and shot:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/451309/thread/1296928404/This+is+just+to+cool+not+to+spread+around

Prediction

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Oz won’t chime-in – regardless of who posts what. He’s sitting out for a while. The only variable is the defining [i]a while[/i].

Heck, Hell hasn’t frozen over in [i]a while[/i] either!

(I almost said, Hell, [i]hell[/i] hasn’t ……..)

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