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IT Admin "Was Fired" But... Was it a GOOD idea?

By Yowye ·
There was an IT Administrator who had been fired from his Company, do to deliberate mismanagement of the companies network systems in order to acquire new products and software for which they proposed - was the best solution in order to fix the problem, however, A.S.A.V.M operates an internal investigation department... one which no employee had been aware of.

They found in there investigation, that this IT Admin, deliberately mismanaged the net work to obtain software and hardware for both personal use and for personal private transactions.

Now there is a new IT Admin running the show, which just became a circus... The old IT Admin, apparently created personal encrypted passwords which have locked in all essential files, and has been unsuccessfully decoded... now the company has become paralyzed by and Admin who no longer is with them.

The first question is... If you were this new IT Admin, what course of action would you take?

And the second question is... Do the companies you work for have back up plans for the unexpected... what ever the unexpected may be?

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Covering arses

by TonytheTiger In reply to I am with...

A healthy start would be putting terms and conditions in plain language at the start, spelling out all of the forseeable "if/then"s at the beginning of the business relationship.

In the particular example I replied to, it appeared that the contractor was negligent in not giving the password to the client at the beginning of their relationship, and only later using non-payment as an excuse. Most people I know would see a problem with that.

Oh, and if you include the lost time in your claim, it is often compensable.

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Right on...

by Twaka In reply to Wow.

I agree with the previous post. Even though there are no loyalties either way between employers and employees these days, there are still certain obligations.

The IT Admin was wrong, and the boss mishandled the situation. The organization is also paying for not having the proper policies in place and a proper disaster recovery plan. Too many times the treat is viewed as coming from the outside.

There have been similar cases which ended in court and the company won! So beware.

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Burn the Admin

by wernerlr In reply to I just went through this ...

Toby described a completely different scenerio than Tony & Neil. Toby had a legitimate reason for denying password(s) from their client and should/probably would prevail in court.

As far as I'm concerned, the admin described in this thread should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

The admin apparently carries the ethics of a snail. Not only did he/she violate the policies of the company paying their salary, they also violated the principals that any reasonably ethical person carries.

They abused the company system for their own personal gain and intentionally encrypted and held back passwords that the company needs to carry on their business.

Certainly, immediate management carries some of the blame for allowing this to happen, but the admin bares direct responsiblity for intentionally making it happen.

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by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Burn the Admin

He caused a security incident so he could authorise the purchase of an enterprise security solution instead of relying on the windows firewall. Clowns who let themselves get shafted like this probably thought they were safe.
Why he got sacked misses the point,there have been and are many law-abiding admins who could easily end up leaving their employers in a similar state.

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only if

by jeffersnet In reply to Burn the Admin

Only if the admin was ever asked the password or if there was some policy that the password had to be stored in a certain place.

No one has said that the admin was ever asked for his passwords.

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Generally agree with wernerlr

by user@# In reply to Burn the Admin

The company does need a quick transfusion of brain cells to make sure this does not happen again, but the Admin has more than bent a few laws. At the very least, he needs to pay for all costs associated with regaining control of the programs, plus costs for lost productivity. It would be a lot cheaper for all if Admin just gave over the passwords. NO WAY do you let him onto the system without adult supervision-- and there may not be any available at this company.

Now, how do you handle this in the future when you are contacted about Admin's past employment? Current law makes it difficult to say anything negative, but I would think one would be morally required to report the unethical (and probably illegal) conduct of Admin to any possible future employers.

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Not illegal!!!

by jeffersnet In reply to Generally agree with wern ...

Someone has to ask for the password. The problem with so many people is they rush to judgement. A good admin will keep his password secret and if someone fires him and doesn't ask for the password I don't see why that is the admin's fault. As for the reason he was fired you should read the post because you will find that it does not say he broke a law or did anything unethical, this is just another assumption. The post says he used the company resources to buy something, it didn't say it wasn't work related. Maybe he bought something so that he could do a better job supporting the users. Remember, the post does not give the details.
It is too bad that people always assume the worst out of everyone without checking into the facts.

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Yes it is illegal

by jmgarvin In reply to Generally agree with wern ...

You cannot "steal" IP from a company in such a way. The precidenct has been set!

Also, the admin must give the incoming admin the new passwords and any other information that may keep the IT infrastructure from functioning properly once the previous admins leaves.

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Probably more of a tort than a crime

by stress junkie In reply to Generally agree with wern ...

I suspect that this is more likely to be a matter for civil court rather than criminal court.

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Again, NOT illegal!! READ THE POST

by jeffersnet In reply to Generally agree with wern ...

If you read the actual post you will see that it does not ever say he broke a law. It does not say that he refused to give the password or that he locked anyone out of anything. As far as anyone here knows he was never asked.

It is a big stretch to say he broke a law, some of you just don't read very well or always jump to conclusions. If you have the ability to solve problems with computers then you should be able to apply that to other areas. If you don't have anything on your monitor do you assume the monitor died? I would check the power and look for other causes while some people here was just get mad and throw away a perfectly good monitor.


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