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By Steviejay ·
I've just recently graduated from Uni with a BSc in Applied Computing and now I'm job hunting. The nature of the course I sat denotes that I've sort of become a "jack of all trades but master of none" where I've been submerged in a great many aspects of the IT field yet I have never fully specialised in one and I think this is starting to affect my employment chances. From what I did learn at uni and from my own knowledge I'm aiming for the tech support sector however I've applied for several jobs and I haven't even got an email back informing me that I was unsuccessful.

I was wondering if anyone could suggest if there was anywhere I could go or focus on in an attempt to better my chances of finally getting my foot in the door. I believe the biggest problem is my "lack of experience" as most tech support jobs insist upon a number of years experience. Is ther anything I can do to get experience so I can further my chances or perhaps any other tips to get myself on the IT career ladder?

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skip the news ads

by jimmy In reply to Don't limit yourself to n ...

I myself have changed jobs a few times. In the end of my undergrad I found out that (in the US at least) the jobs in the paper are mostly worthless. Almost half or more are there becuase of equal opportunity and candidates have usually already been picked and approved. I would suggest several methods at once which has worked for me.
First and foremost, friends and family. Nothing is better than knowing someone. This almost always can at least get your resume into the right hands or an interview.
Second, post your resume, and apply to jobs you would like.
Third, staffing agency, pick a reputable one and HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE!!!!
They will do what you ask, but if you give them a yard, they'll take it a mile.
Tell them what you are looking for, but also what you'll take and what salary range your looking for. The more you tell those guys the better of an idea of what you can do and how they can sell you means the better and faster you get a job from the third option.
I would also suggest a statement from the book "What color is your parachute", when looking for a job, clock in and out 9-5, 5 days a week, don't get distracted, or you could be looking a long time.
After all that, it is exactly what fregeus said, SELL SELL SELL. Once you get the interview, you have to sell them on why you are the best candidate. most companies are looking for the best candidate for the least amount of money.
If you can market yourlsef better than your competitors this is where you win. Have the buzzwords on your resume and quantify your expreience on your resume, but when you get the interview. SELL SELL SELL! It has always worked well for me by answering the questions with similar projects or experiences I have had to complete. Everyone says they can do it. You can win by explaining how you did it.
It is also turning into an employees market out there, so forge ahead and don't lose hope.
Best of luck to you.
Jimmy

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Only One Job In 10 is Ever Advertised - What Are You On?

by stoppedtowatch In reply to Don't limit yourself to n ...

Only one job in ten is ever advertised, only 10 per cent of those are any good. That nets out to 1 percent that are any good.

Newspaper ads represent the bottom of the job barrel: entry-level jobs, high-turnover positions, straight commission sales, scams, multi-level marketing sales, recruiting or 'fishing' expeditions, salary researchers, personnel and government agencies paying lip service to diversity hiring and one percent occasionally a good job or two for which a hundred percent of the competition is applying.

If you're an uneducated job-hunter you'll spend hours of your time slaving away.

Don't feel bad about this! Nobody taught you how to do it right and those that tried - well their job hunting opinion was hardly well-endowed.

Here's what to do with ads. Don't answer them all. Answer a select few. Spend no more than 5 percent of your valuable job search time on want ads. Give yourself a limit of one hour to look at the ads and pick out the top ten. really go after these ten. As for the rest you're interested in, just spin off a quick resume.

First call all ten. Tell whoever answers that you are doing research on companies like theirs for possible career choice. Then ask knowledgeable questions like: 'What unique competitive advantages do you have in the industry? and so on.

Now decide if you want an interview. In your letter to the company use the information you got from your phone call. Focus on what you know about the company and how you can contribute. Cover enough ground in the cover letter so you only need a one page resume, if that. Actively follow up to set an interview.

Sorry didn't mean to rant. If you'd like to learn more and get yourself a free ecourse on greatest Career Change Mistakes: http://www.careersnet.co.uk/career-change-mistakes/

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Job Website

by Vawns In reply to Glasgow

Hi Stevie,

Have you tried jobserve.co.uk? I used it to get my last 3 jobs and it's never let me down yet!

Hope this helps and best of luck with the job hunting,

Vawns

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how you job hunt

by cb0503 In reply to You don't say where in Sc ...

Hi Stevie

Well I graduated some time ago, but I do work in Glasgow, and I am (vaguely) IT - tho not "support" (Project management).

I have some questions - you mention newspapers and sites... how else are you looking for jobs ? Did you know that around 80% of jobs are NEVER advertised ?!

Are you only looking at perm jobs, or will anything do ? I came back from abroad to a 4 month contract - 2 and a half years later, they just made me permanent

And finally, what checks have you done on your CV ? You comment about not being able to say "well I help my mates out.." which makes me wonder if you are marketing and selling yourself as well as you might ? I got a review done of my CV - cost me something like ?25 and was very useful - and I should be reasonably good at CVs, having been on the other side of the fence and had advice previously - but someone did comment that my CV was "dreadful" !!

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IT job hunting is more personal than personell

by maldain In reply to based in Scotland

The best bet for finding a job in the IT field is find local user groups and start attending their meetings. Network with the people there this will allow you to get to know the people and more importantly the companies where you can target your job search. One thing about IT jobs is they almost always go to somebody that is known to the people in the IT departments. Target areas in these user group meetings that interest you and soon you'll have job.

What I've noticed in my more than 20 years in the business is the best jobs in any industry don't make it to the want ads or the head hunters.

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I'll second that

by BlueKnight In reply to IT job hunting is more pe ...

Maldain makes an excellent point. Get acquainted with folks in your local user groups and get to know them... talk shop with them and let them know what your skill set is and what you're most interested in. Once you get comfortable with them, make it known you're looking for a better position and ask if they happen to know of any openings. When something comes up, you'll hear about it early on. This is generally where the best jobs end up getting filled.

One other note: If you haven't done so already, craft your resume so that it showcases, or emphasizes, the skills and experience that relate more to the position you really would like to have. That should increase your chances of obtaining an offer in that area while still conveying the breadth of your skills and experience.

Don't be disappointed when you don't receive acknowledgement that your reseume was received, OR that you weren't selected for a position. In my experience, those are scarce. Many firms simply receive too many applications to make it practical respond to each one. From what I've seen, many of those I have received communications from seem to care more about their employees and how they are perceived in the labor market. Let us know how it works out.

Best of luck to you.

Jim

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I'll third that

by kirby In reply to I'll second that

50% of the jobs I have gotten have been through networking. Maybe the professors at your school have been contacted about jobs? What technology interests you? Read up on it and join a maillist/message board/newsgroup.
Apply for jobs you may not *really* want. You ahve to start somewhere. Expect to be there a year. After that see if they can expand your position a bit, or upsell yourself and job hop.

I started doing the job hopping. I would max out what I could learn at a position and move on.

The first job took me 4 months to get. Since then it has been much better. You hold on to the current job until the next one opens up.

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Hit the local user or profession groups

by JohnGPMP In reply to IT job hunting is more pe ...

I agree that hitting the local user or professional associations is a good way to land a job. IT tends to be more of how do you network within the community and how you present yourself. Certifications are good, but you better be able to back it up with some experience (even if it is only in school) and good personal (soft) skills (i.e. verbal and written).

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Pro bono and volunteer work is a good idea

by cernan68 In reply to Hit the local user or pro ...

It's true that the job recession has eased up a bit. Many people I know find jobs within 2 or 3 months of getting laid off, and most find work within 6 months. This is a major improvement over how it was 2 or 3 years ago.

When I was "on the bench" for a while, I did pro bono and volunteer work. I helped my local PC User's group develop their public website, did some free DBA work for them, and taught some programming, MS Office and IT project management classes for them. This way, my resume didn't have a gap in it. When recruiters ask me how much my salary was, I say $0.

The contacts I mades at the volunteer job helped me find actual paying work within a few months.I also got some strong job references from them. My references tell recruiters the same thing that a former employee might: my technical skills, my management skills, my people skills, etc. I remain active at the PC User's group and still teach classes and do a little volunteer work.

Having a place to go to three days a week, like I did, makes it seem less like you're not working. That's because it IS work, it's just not paid work -- but it can lead to paid work.

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local users group

by mtiservices In reply to IT job hunting is more pe ...

How do u join this local users group? Whats the best one out there?

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