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Liberty versus Progressivism

By maxwell edison ·
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Liberty is the enemy of Progressivism.

Progressivism is the enemy of Liberty.

Choose your side carefully, because the day of recokning will soon be upon us.

I choose to defend Lady Liberty.

Discuss (if you dare).

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Exactly correct

by maxwell edison In reply to Liberty, by it's definiti ...

And is why the "tea party" (note lower case) was grossly misunderstood and egregiously misrepresented by the Democrats and their willing accomplices in the media. (And hijacked by some Republicans for political expediency.)

P.S. Good to see you back!

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Liberty in itself is nothing.

by AnsuGisalas In reply to Liberty, by it's definiti ...

Empty space has limitless liberty.

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Once in Germany I saw a lot of election posters...

by john.a.wills In reply to Liberty versus Progressiv ...

Some ran "For the liberty that we love... vote CDU". Others showed grandma pushing a grandchild on a swing (the SPD had just upped pensions) and ran "Of liberty we understand more... vote SPD".

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by mjd420nova In reply to Liberty versus Progressiv ...

Opinions. Freedom Liberty All have differing definitions in every county of every state of the union. The right to free speech is the only one I can exercise and not have to worry about violating anyone elses rights. Plug your ears. I don't fully understand the term PROGRESSIVISM. Common sense doesn't exist. It's more like " Look out for me because I'm not". My rights are walked on daily and if I took an afront to every transgression, I'd go nuts, steal my mothers gun and kill some innocents. Spare me the lantern in the dark sermon and bring back the freedom to feel SAFE on the streets and in my home. Politics corrupted democracy. The governing body has no desire to do their jobs and the rest of the country falls apart while the idiots sit on their hands, or each others even. We have the right to agree or disagree but not to impinge those ideas upon anyone else but the politicians can do it on TV. Save that money and put it back into the neighborhoods that need help with the failing infrastructure that the federal management fails to consider neccesary.

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WRONG. on every level

by Locrian_Lyric In reply to Definitions

Please, educate yourself

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by NickNielsen In reply to WRONG. on every level

Or can you not articulate it?

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Binary fallacy, to the extreme!

by AnsuGisalas In reply to Liberty versus Progressiv ...

I love how all movers and shakers in the USA seem to be always looking for a panacea.
And, that panacea is always assumed to be something incredibly simplistic, like "No more guns", "No more gov't", "Freeing the market", "Outsourcing" or "Jesus!"...
Pick one, just one, and then work to prevent all those other solutions from being implemented.
And then you wonder why all your hard work only lands you deeper in trouble...

Did you ever consider working together on the things you can agree on, WITHOUT relying on simplistic solutions OR hunting for "Panacea or bust"?

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Surely you jest. nt

by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to Binary fallacy, to the ex ...
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by AnsuGisalas In reply to Surely you jest. nt

I mean, "magic cure or bust" is such a good way to go.

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I'm sick of progressivism

by AV . In reply to Liberty versus Progressiv ...

You know what? I'm for liberty. I am totally sick of supporting programs for every need du jour. Its like being nickeled and dimed to death with so called "good causes". Why can't I keep the fruits of my labor?

We have all been duped by the progressive agenda in this country. I've come to this conclusion after working my entire life. I've paid into Medicare, Social Security, etc., etc., and now when it comes time for my turn, its almost out of money. WTF?! If I had been able to keep more of the money I had earned and invested it myself, I wouldn't be looking at this total train wreck when I'm about to retire.

I'm sorry. I'm a little bitter. I paid into this and not by choice, just like the rest of you. I'm mad. Do you really want to trust your retirement to the government? If I was younger, I wouldn't. You're going to end up like me. I have an uncertain future, just like a lot of people.

If I had liberty and didn't have the mandates of Social Security and Medicare, I would have been able to use that money for the retirement I want and it would be on my own terms.

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