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Linux- types, flavours, behaviours

By Tig2 ·
On TR we have SMEs that understand Linux and Free BSD in ways that the uninitiated do not. And I think that those of us who want to learn a Linux have different objectives as well.

I propose this- that those of us that are admitted newbies come to the table with what we can do... but that we ask the SMEs what their preferences are and why.

So some ground rules- use "Live CD" even if it is a misnomer- in the header of your post. A Live CD will be different from a full install. But if that is your intallation goal, communicate it.

If what you think you have is more "Live" or "less"... why?

If you have a test box, and you are working this angle, let us know.

When everything works, let us know what you are using, the basic box, and what information got you to success.

We have some REALLY great SMEs on this board. What I hope to hear from them is what they think has traction and why.

We have to work together. I believe that we can.

I know that we are all trying to reach a communication point. I will be soon uploading my learnings... Or- I will soon upload what I have learned about the differentiation of American and Mid East culture.

It could be good. As long as anyone cares.

Edited to fix Apotheon's name. I shouldn't post in my sleep...

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A few resources.

by Jaqui In reply to Linux- types, flavours, b ...

That can make it far eqaier to find information out, and even hlp pick a distro to try.

The distro Chooser:

this is only a very limited list of distros, but the ones listed are well known and have a certain level of maturity.

The Linux != Windows Article:

a good read to help remove preconceptions, and help to understand the mindset of most Linux users.

Distro Watch

A very comprehensive list of distributions, with links to each distro's site, and recent news from the distros.

The Linux Documentation Project

A very complete archive of Linux Documentation, including the full set of How To guides. The limitation of it is that not everything is referencing current software, so there is a fair amount of outdated information on the site.

For help Installing

An article I wrote to help with installing linux. I did try to keep it non specific for disros, which isn't easy, as every distro is unique in the install.

And, naturally, Linux Questions

a free community site of linux users focused on helping people learn linux.

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by w2ktechman In reply to A few resources.

Also an informaive site

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by Jaqui In reply to

we could post a few hundred sites easily and still not have them all.
I was only trying to post one for each type of starter question.

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my "Bookmarks"

by Jaqui In reply to A few resources.

Here is the complete set f bookmarks I have, for linux.


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Jaqui- you have likely said before but

by Tig2 In reply to my "Bookmarks"

What distro do you use and why? What do you see as the defining marks of a good distro? How about a bad one?

I have to find something that is easy to install and intuitive for end users who don't really "get" computers. Where is a good place to start for end users who were raised on MS?

Wish I had been more awake and more complete in this post...

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Those were

by Jaqui In reply to Jaqui- you have likely sa ...

mentioned in the question / comments, I just didn't answer them

What distro do you use and why?
I use Linux from Scratch, because I have total control over everything then.

What do you see as the defining marks of a good distro?

This is the hardest question to answer, because it really depends on the needs of the person / company. Most companies would never concider using a distro they cannot buy support from the distro, for those times their own staff can't solve a problem.

I've been using linux for so long I can get fairly close to what I want with most distros, but that is knowledge gotten over time, can't be easily transferred, since each person wants something different and may not be willing to let something else gor for getting something else.
[ tradeoffs are a big sticky point for most people ]

How about a bad one?

This is easy, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu are bad distros, they killed security by disabling root account.
any distro with no system admin account is bad.

. Where is a good place to start for end users who were raised on MS?

simple, single cd install, lots of options for software, familiar for MS users, PCLinuxOS.
the Mandriva Drakxtools frontend to Debian.
has almost all aero-glass ui enabled by default, very windows like kde configuration.
with better security than the ubuntu group.
The installcd is also a live cd, with a one click intall from the live os.

PCLinuxOS 1.0 will be released soon. I looked at the current release candidate, while the multmedia stuff means I won't use it, it's a near duplicate to what MS has available.

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I like that smoking pacman avatar.

by stress junkie In reply to Those were

That would be applicable to me too. Using tobacco was the biggest mistake I ever made but stopping makes me crazy.

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I'm looking

by Jaqui In reply to I like that smoking pacma ...

for one with a coffee in one hand, smoke hanging from the corner of the mouth, and a big gun blazing away at stupid people, you know, the ones that tried to get between you and the coffee and smoke. ]:)

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My doctor found a good way to get me to stop

by rhomp2002 In reply to I like that smoking pacma ...

When I was in the hospital for emphysema, he told me I could smoke or I could live - my choice - but I would not be able to do both. It does rather concentrate the mind and I have not smoked since. Not the best way to do it but it certainly worked for me.

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I'll never stop, I smoke for health reasons...

by Jaqui In reply to My doctor found a good wa ...

If I don't smoke I'll kill people way to often.

I'll have a smoke going as they bury me :)
oh, hold it, I'm already dead, cremated and buried, I still haven't stopped smoking.

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