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By stargazerr ·
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1874471.stm

This is absolutely disgusting

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Dawg and James

by jdclyde In reply to Rwanda et al

First, Dawg you said right on what I had been trying to say.

James, when at the core of the religion they advocate death for the horrible crime of converting to Christianity, you can (or at least should be able to) see that the religion is evil down to its core. People that reject that religion are rejecting evil.

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I remember a time....

by jdclyde In reply to What they would tell you

when a few Rangers were killed and drug through the streets. We DID pack up and run for the hills because it was would have been unpopular to stay.

Hmmm, I don't recall priests encouraging genocide in Rwanda. I do know that it was a long time building after decades of oppression. I also remember the UN pulling out and leaving all the local staff to be slaughtered, and I would hold them more accountable than anyone (besides the Rwandan's themselves) because while many nations did not come in to help, the UN was ALREADY THERE and knew first hand what was going on and did not care.

German Christians or NAZI Christians? I am VERY German, with my grandfather coming over as a boy (before the war). If someone was a NAZI, they HAVE been hunted and prosocuted for their actions, even though it was a "long time ago", as it well should be. If someone goes to a camp to learn to be a terrorist, they are then a part of that group and should be held accountable as a whole for what that group does, regardless if they are the individual that blew them selves up or if they are still waiting their turn.

The list that we hear they have in Iran of the 10,000 wannabee maryrs. Get that list, and exterminate them like the dogs they are BEFORE someone that matters is killed. Suicide bombers do not matter.

I don't think everyone that is muslim is evil, but the Fundamentalist Islamics have shown that they are quite insane and a direct threat to all non-islamic people through out the world. A threat that must be delt with.

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James you are free to believe as you will but...................

by sleepin'dawg In reply to Intolerence breeds intole ...

I haven't seen the Roman Catholic Church or Orthodox Judaism flying aeroplanes into buildings or sending out children as suicide bombers to detonate themselves among unsuspecting civilians. Oh yes the Muslims claim that they are primarily peaceful but I have yet to see one Islamic leader take any concrete steps to end the onslaught of terror against all other religions. We tend to forget it isn't solely the Judeo -Christian culture that is under attack but also that of Hinduism and Buddhism, as witness the blowing up of the three Buddhist statues that had been declared a World Heritage sight and the explosions in Bali.

Muslims love to point at the Crusades as evidence of the western cultures attacking them but they conveniently forget that the Crusades were only in response to the incurrsions of Islam into Europe. France did not get clear of Islamic forces until the reign of Charlemagne and Spain; not until the year Columbus sailed on his voyages of discovery. Suleiman the Magnificent was assaulting Central Europe well into the middle of the sixteenth century and perhaps longer. At one point of time Islamic cuture was far more advanced than that of Europe but somewhere towards the seventeenth century it went into decline and has been there ever since. The main reason for its decline was the encroaching powers of its imans and ayatollahs and a refusal to look at the power of education and learning which it had once been at the forefront of throughout the early middle ages. In fact what leadership Islam has today would like to turn the clock back to those times of the tenth to twelth centuries.

I will become more tolerant of Muslims when they stop detonating children and learn to be more tolerant. They must learn to reign themselves in and to date not one Muslim has given any indication of doing so. Maybe peaceful Muslims were ashamed and embarassed but I have yet to see any of them making any efforts to curb the violence. Saying, "Oh dear me, not all Muslims are violent. We are ashamed and embarassed by these people." does not cut it. If any one group is in an ideal position to stop the violence it is these so called "peaceful Muslims" but to date they have yet to display any efforts int his regard.

Dawg ]:)

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Dawg the Irish Catholics are just as bad

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to James you are free to bel ...

Although they have maintained their arms and currently have stopped bombing London and other parts of the UK they did manage to nearly kill the then British Prime Minister. They did however manage to kill several of the Cabinet of Maggi Thatcher at that episode.

London is known for being bombed by the IRA and they are anything but peaceful people they are downright scary as they treat something that happened 400 years ago as if it happened yesterday and seek vengeance for it today. The Pope while asking them to stop never did anything positive about their actions all of which where sanctioned by the Catholic Church in Ireland.

About 15 years or so ago I meet a recruiter here who was on a Fund Raising Mission for the IRA and the way he spoke about the British was well to say the least astounding and while totally correct the actions being talked about and wanting to be acted upon happened hundreds of years ago.

At the very least that part of the Catholic Church should be wiped of the face of the planet and I don't say that lightly either they are one of the very few organizations who really scared me and I don't scare that easily.

Col

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Sadly

by JamesRL In reply to Dawg the Irish Catholics ...

Sadly many of the Protestants in Northern Ireland were just as bad. Hence my "Intolerence breeds Intolerence" remarks.

Both sides in Northern Ireland have been guilty of attrocities, in the forms of bombings, assasinations and provocations. One of the reasons that the IRA (whom I do not defend in any way) are scared to hand in their weapons is they know that there are Protestant terrorists who are more eager to settle scores than to keep the fragile peace. The RUC and the British Army had been guilty in the past of looking the other way, but more recently have cracked down on the protestant groups as much as the IRA and associated groups, and that has contributed much to the peace process.

James

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The Irish are pretty bad either the micks or the prods but..............

by sleepin'dawg In reply to Dawg the Irish Catholics ...

neither of them has taken to wiring up their children as IEDs to be detonated among innocent civilians. They keep focused on their supposed enemy and do not practice random acts of terror upon the uninvolved nations.

Dawg ]:)

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Bombing

by JamesRL In reply to The Irish are pretty bad ...

The pub bombs, bombing at Omagh, these are events designed to kill civilians. They may target one faction or another, but are likely to kill civilians of both sides.

James

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James you are missing the point. Nobody but Muslims uses...................

by sleepin'dawg In reply to Bombing

their children as bombs. Yes, the Irish extremists of either brand **** things and themselves up but only Muslims are so uncivilized as to have taken to turning children into bombs. This in my estimation makes them the scum of the earth and fully justifies any form of retaliation taken against them. Extermination seems to be an appropriate response or solution in light of this.

Dawg ]:)

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Well actually Suicide bombing was invented

by JamesRL In reply to Bombing

by the Tamil Tigers - not Muslims. They have been using it for decades.

So what is your solution - kill every Muslim? Kill every family member of a suicide bomber? Do you think that would bring anyone closer to peace? An eye for an eye and pretty soon the whole world goes blind.

James

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Damn James but do you bother reading??? Suicide bombings and...............

by sleepin'dawg In reply to Bombing

self immolation was being practiced long before the Tigers but I keep mentioning the sacrificing of children. What is so difficult about that to grasp???

Iran had a nifty little practice of barely arming hoardes of children and marching them forward into the gunfire of the Iraqui army. Palestinians would send hundreds of stone throwing children against Israeli controlled check points in what was called the Intafada. These contol points might have held by as many as ten or twelve young Israeli soldiers. When you are only 18 or 19 and you and a few friends are surrounded by hundreds of stone throwing children I think you might be excused if you became scared witless, because those stones hurt like **** and the only way to stop them is to fire a few shots, supposedly in the air. When that doesn't work and I can assure you it doesn't, then you might fire a few shots into the crowd. You are meant to fire low, just to inflict wounds but it is hard to control that when you are young and frightened. Don't forget the personnel in the check points are barely older than the stone throwers and they are being vastly out numbered.

But that is the least of it. How do you respond to a child of anywhere from 9-14 years of age, who comes among people going about their day to day living and who has been whipped into a fanatical frenzy by his elders to **** himself up in the name of Allah. The only animals who are doing this are Muslims and as a consequence maybe the appropriate response is, to hunt down the families of these victims and exterminate each and every one of them. Maybe then they might view this sort of act as being counterproductive to whatever claims they may have. BTW they were doing similar things back when I was posted there. The first shots I ever fired in self defence were into a 14 or 15 year old. I shouldn't have had to do that but his brave courageous elders, gave him a defective AK-47 and sent him against us. Did I regret shooting him??? Yes, but not as much as I would have regretted him shooting me. Until you've been up against a similar situation, you have no right to judge me or anyone else for that matter.

People keep saying not all Muslims are like that and I will keep saying, prove it. If there was any one group who could halt Islamic Terrorism in its tracks, it would be this supposed majority of peaceful Muslims. So far they've done nothing and the rate of attacks are increasing. Does that mean that maybe your "peaceful" Muslims aren't so peaceful after all??? I will restate my viewpoint, "The only Muslim that you can trust, is a dead one."

Dawg ]:)

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