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By ProtiusX ·
Ex-lesbian battles former partner over child Parental rights of Vermont civil union enforced in Utah

Posted: December 8, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
WorldNet Daily
?A woman who gave birth to a child months before entering a same-sex civil union in Vermont is appealing a court ruling that granted parental standing to her former partner.
Cheryl Barlow, who says she no longer is a lesbian, was united with Keri Jones, both residents of Utah, five months after Barlow became pregnant by artificial insemination in 2001.
But the relationship ended in 2003 after Barlow discovered Jones was seeing another woman.
Jones then sued for parental visitation rights to Barlow's child and was granted favor by Judge Timothy Hanson in Utah's 3rd District Court in Salt Lake City after a brief, three-day trial.
Barlow wants the Utah Court of Appeals to overturn the decision.
Her attorney, Frank Mylar, who is allied with the Arizona-based Alliance Defense Fund, argues Jones has had no relationship with the now 3-year-old child for over a year and has no legal right to visitation.
"Enforced visitation will only promote confusion and conflict in this child's life and upbringing," he said.
Mylar points out the civil union is not valid in Utah, where the law ensures Jones could never have any legal right to Barlow's child during their relationship.
"We do not believe the court sufficiently evaluated the child's well-being," Mylar said. "The decision to grant Jones visitation with the child defies Barlow's constitutional rights, Utah law and local public policy."
The appeals court will hear the case even though an appellate judge decided Friday not to stay the order of the lower court, forcing the child to spend 10-hour visitations with Jones during the proceedings.
"It is unconstitutional for the court to award parental standing to an unrelated third party over the objections of a fit natural parent who has never been deprived of custody," Mylar contended.
"Granting parental standing to a legal stranger in a non-marital relationship pushes Utah law to where it's never been," he said.?

I can only weep for the child who has been thrust into the middle of this mess. This is an example of the chaos that will be wrought upon this country if we do not stand up for the family which is the core of our country.

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Flawed "Science"

by deepsand In reply to Science

The studies cited represent a narrow range of the anthropological spectrum.

As such, they have been carefully selected to support your conclusion.

Such does NOT constitute good science.

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by JamesRL In reply to Disagree of course

I don't agree that gay=promiscuous. Certainly there are gay people who are, and straight people who are promiscuous, but its not necssarily true to say that all gays are.

As to gender roles, I would echo Maecuff - there are lots of kids of single parents who don't seem to have a problem with gender roles. Gay people have relatives, kids have teachers etc.


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Define "sexually promiscuous deviant "

by deepsand In reply to Disagree of course

Given that all of the sexual practices which seem to be repugnant to you have been & continue to be practiced by all of mankind throughout all of recorded history, to label them as "sexually promiscuous deviant" is, at best, a position born of an ignorance of facts; at worst, it is intellectual dishonesty.

The unwarrented use of such labels is no more than an attempt to unfavorably color those who oppose your position.

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But what is your definition of family?

by Aldanatech In reply to Lunatic Fringe

It wouldn't be so much of chaos if they wouldn't make such a big deal out of it. This further supports the idea that a family should be raised by a man and a woman. But does that mean that a single man or a woman cannot successfully accomplish this task? What about grandparents and uncles and aunts? What about a man and his brother or a woman and her sister? I've seen reports from other countries were gay couples are allowed to adopt children and they turn out to be just fine. What happens with gay couples here in America, is that because it is seen so unnatural, it is considered to be a treat to the institution of marriage. My problem with that is the divorce rate between straight couples is so high that it is what actually deteriorates the institution of marriage more than gay couples ever will.

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Flawed Argument

by ProtiusX In reply to But what is your definiti ...

You are arguing that two wrongs make a right. You are comparing the problem of divorce and it?s affect on the family with that of homosexuality being considered as a normal acceptable life style and it?s affects on the family. Perhaps you should read my post at
Where I show scientific evidence that a homosexual role model is detrimental to the healthy sexual development of a child.

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Not what I have seen

by Aldanatech In reply to Flawed Argument

I've seen manifold families where children have grown in a stable condition: Children raised by single mothers, single fathers, aunts, uncles, grandparents, you name it. Maybe you should indicate me where you got your study from so I can take a closer look at it.

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Guess I missed ths last time.

by Oz_Media In reply to Lunatic Fringe

Now I have that song going through my head!

Lunatic Fringe
I know you're out there
You're in hiding
And you hold your meetings
We can hear you coming
We know what you're after
We're wise to you this time
We won't let you kill the laughter

Lunatic Fringe
In the twilight's last gleaming
This is open season
But you won't get too far
We know you've got to blame someone
For your own confusion
But we're on guard this time
Against your final solution

We can hear you coming
(We can hear you coming)
No you're not going to win this time
We can hear the footsteps
(We can hear the footsteps)
Way out along the walkway
Lunatic Fringe
We know you're out there
But in these new dark ages
There will still be light

An eye for an eye
Well, before you go under
Can you feel the resistance
Can you feel the....thunder

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