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Manager trying to access inappropriate sites - teen forums / porn

By kcross ·
Hi guys,

Bit of a tricky situation here. One of our (ageing) managers is trying to access teen sites such as rate my body etc, he appears to have an acount set up on several teen forums (we reports from the websweeper when access is denied). The IT policy clearly states that internet access and email may be monitored so I am happy that the company is within their rights to discipline him. I have spoken to the HR Director who has asked me to monitor it for a while longer. BUT before we confront him is there anything else that we should consider?

Thanks

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perfect people in an imperfect world

by jackintheback In reply to Dealt poorly with this be ...

I feel the gravity if that respons "dad" thanks for the spiel, i'm sure that will get me far in life.

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Dont wait too long

by rokkyofnh In reply to Manager trying to access ...

IF the gut is a preditor he needs to be stopped NOW!!! How would you feel if the guy turns out to be a pedophile and you have saved a child from harm???!! Given the companies monitoring policies, you have every right to monitor his email and web use and do not act you are as guilty as he is !!!!! CAll the police and turn in all monmitored records! DO NOT WAIT!

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Do your job, don't be foolish.

by Deacon336 In reply to Manager trying to access ...

The challenge is to do your job and stop there.

I am assuming that you were asked to review the websweeper logs. You have reported the issue to HR. That fulfills your obligation. You have taken a stand for what is right. Getting the police involved is ABSOLUTELY NOT your responsibility. If the senior management of the company wants to take that step, they can. Hopefully after consulting legal counsel.

IMO, if YOU take that path you set yourself up for legal liability. Right now it appears only that you know he has tried to access these sites. That is NOT a crime. Perhaps not in good taste, not terribly smart and perhaps in violation of company policy, but not a crime. You have no reason to assume his intentions or his actions.

Report the mess. Let someone who has responsibility in this area proceed from here. (Frankly, I would not proceed on just the word of an HR manager. There are too many legal implications.)

I wish you well.

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I'd lawyer up myself

by Too Old For IT In reply to Do your job, don't be foo ...

If I were in kcross' shoes, I'd lawyer up myself. Now. Even thinking bad things about a manager can be a career-ending move in some companies. More so if you are 100% correct.

If a company has a "HR Pro" on staff, likely they will do something stupid, then check with legal counsel afterwards.

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100% agree

by jkaras In reply to Do your job, don't be foo ...

The employee did something stupid, not illegal. You cant assume he is a predator becasue he visited a site that rates teenage bodies. Remember that PLayboy models or any model for that matter are teens 18 and 19, not over 21 in most cases. The company should have had a plan all along for this type of situation and not shooting from the hip. I would document and counsel the situation to the employee as inappropriate behavior with a zero tolerance re-occurance. If their is any lip from him, so long. Then issue a mandate to all employees to sign an agreement that this surfing will not be tolerated following termination. Then I would block the site. You will cover your butt, prevent future occurances, and prevent other employees from engaging in that practice.

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Agree - Let HR Do Its Job

by Wayne M. In reply to Do your job, don't be foo ...

The responsibility for handling this situation belongs in the hands of HR and upper management. Let them do their jobs.

The IT group will probably never know how the situation has been handled, if the HR group has any sort of ethics.

Your job is done. Let others do theirs.

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Where are you based?

by gadgetgirl In reply to Manager trying to access ...

if you're in the UK, it very much depends on the evidence you can collect, and how you do it.

Let me know if you're in the UK, as, if you are, you just landed in evidence collection ****.

(oh, and welcome, I thought I was the only one in that particular spot!)

GG

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Agree with Deacon

by Cgoeckel In reply to Manager trying to access ...

I would bring this up to your Manager/Supervisor and let them know what HR has told you to do. Any information that HR might request I would CC your supervisor on it.

Keep monitoring the logs. The reason that HR wants it is most likely to have a substantial amount of evidence to lay out in front of him.

If the sites are not 18 and over (if your in the States) then I would suggest you and your manager inform HR and encourage them to contact local authorities. They are going to want the information as well.

FYI....I went through this when I served overseas and had to monitor the proxy. First time offenders that went to sites and it wasn't an accident or a pop up got a strongly worded email showing them the date, time and sites they accessed or tried accessing (If the time showed longer than 1 minute we knew it wasn't a mistake due to the slow connection we had 128K for 1400 members). If it happened again then they lost access and all the logs were forwarded on to their supervisors and the JAG on base. They were informed of this during their inprocessing as well as signed paperwork for their accounts.

At least once a day I was forwarding information to supervisors and the JAG.

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Does he have a teenager?

by silversidhe In reply to Manager trying to access ...

Most likely it is what it appears to be - but sometimes parents go a little crazy trying to find out exactly what thier kids are up to. Not that I don't understand but they have usually waited until there is some kind of severe problem and they don't have a good relationship with thier child(ren). This is also why their child has a problem so what to do? Spying, snooping and even following the child are all options - and I could say these are not good options but sometimes I would rather see this and even understand it compared to the parent who does nothing.
If this is not what is going on you may have a predator to deal with and this is definately unpleasant. Be very careful of dealing with a predator they don't like being thwarted and if this is obsessive behavior this person may become violent or strike out. A responsible adult has to protect children. I have personally not visited these sites yet but I hear more and more about these kinds of sites on the internet including one called My Place that predators have been stalking and all I can say is that maybe parents need to keep thier children from using these sites - and exactly what is the thrill of these sites for children anyway? It sounds to me like these children need more real social interaction and something to keep them busy so they are not bored and lonely. All in all one of the most difficult problems to come out of this new tech age.

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My Place is not the problem

by Too Old For IT In reply to Does he have a teenager?

The problem is that when Biff and Lolita post thier pics and personal information on my space, they do it in complete confidence that only their boyfried or girlfrind will see it.

(There is a side question as to why Denmark, The Netherlands, Mexico, Thailand and so on do not have the predator / child killing problem we have in the US, but I think I'll leave that to the paid Socilogists.)

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