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Man's best friend

By jardinier ·
A friend (who has four dogs) just sent me this and it HAS to be shared.

Anecdotes about your pet or pets are most welcome.

The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue.

Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful.
-Ann Landers

If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.
-Will Rogers

There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.
-Ben Williams

A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself.
-Josh Billings

The average dog is a nicer person than the average person.
-Andy Rooney

We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made.
-M. Acklam

Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate.
-Sigmund Freud

I wonder if other dogs think poodles are members of a weird religious cult.
-Rita Rudner

A dog teaches a boy fidelity, perseverance, and to turn around three
times before lying down.
-Robert Benchley

Anybody who doesn't know what soap tastes like never washed a dog.
-Franklin P. Jones

If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I have
known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons.
-James Thurber

If your dog is fat, you aren't getting enough exercise.

My dog is worried about the economy because Alpo is up to $3.00 a can. That's almost $21.00 in dog money.
-Joe Weinstein

Ever consider what our dogs must think of us? I mean, here we come back from a grocery store with the most amazing haul -- chicken, pork, half a cow. They must think we're the greatest hunters on earth!
-Anne Tyler

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man.
-Mark Twain

You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look that says, 'Wow, you're right! I never would've thought of that!'
- Dave Barry

Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole.
-Roger Caras

If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your pocket and then give him only two of them.
-Phil Pastoret

My goal in life is to be as good of a person my dog already thinks I am.

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Again, you miss the point

by neilb@uk In reply to "Do animals go to heaven? ...

Don't be so bloody judgemental and don't be so bloody pompous. You are quite at liberty to ignore my posts but if you choose to answer them - especially in the tone of the last one - then I reserve the right to come back swinging.

The OED definition serves nothing in this discussion as it quite obviously refers to love as defined by and for people. My point, which obviously flew past you again, was that not that humans can love their animals - as that is so obviously the case to, sometimes, quite appalling excess - but that love is not returned in any fashion that I would describe it with that word.

Read my damn posts properly.

If the "animal lovers" that make up the major part of western society choose to wallow in anthropomorphic sentiment about one animal and can still eat the products of modern farming then the hypocrisy is plain to see.

Me? I don't have a pet and I only eat meat from a source that I know is humanely reared and killed. Reckon that I'm happy with that.

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by neilb@uk In reply to what about rabbits?

As far as my research showed me - and I do always check my posts in case Maxwell is prowling - rabbits are still a severe environmental problem in Oz. The fact that the Roos are worse suggests that you - Aussies - aren't eating enough of them. I've eaten kangaroo and it wasn't bad at all.

Myxematosis has long since run it's course. You and the NZeds are now employing Rabbit Haemorragic Disease and developing some sterilising viruses - none of which will work for long.

My point was - and is - that the rabbit is pet to some, food animal to some, fur animal to others and pest to most Aussies. How the rabbit is perceived is simply a matter of circumstance and culture.

Thus it is with all animals.


Roff Rabbits: I've just been talking to my old Mum - she's 81 - and she reckons that during WWII rationing in Britain, cats were commonly eaten in the larger cities. she was a country girl so I thought that it may just have been a rumour, so I checked further and it seems that they were called "roof-rabbit" and were quite popular as a way of keeping down abandoned pets when families were bombed and their houses destroyed. There was a surplus of homeless cats living off of vermin and very little other meat to be had.

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Roo meat

by jardinier In reply to Rabbits

Yes indeed we should be eating kangaroos.

The owner of a takeaway who explained the special qualities of roo meat encouraged me to try some, but I never got around to it (set in my ways).

Roo meat has been the standard food for domestic animals for yonks.

So why don't we eat more roo meat? Perhaps it's a combination of economic and cultural factors.

As they don't have to be grazed or herded, a move from beef to roo would impact on beef producers.

Thank you for the update on rabbit control.

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I dunno

by maecuff In reply to The only good animal

I don't DISLIKE animals. I just don't want to take care of any. I have a hard enough time taking care of myself and my kids. We do have a goldfish named Mr. Pink. He's not all that intrusive, his food is cheap and he doesn't smell too bad.

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I loved the last one about counting

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Man's best friend

My dog always knows how many biscuits there are in my pocket. One more, he gets so down when he gets it wrong I just have to fill it up again. Course he's not always a giggle, the day he ate a bottle of cooking oil (1.5 litres !) was far from amusing.
Normally you'd think a dog doing an impression of a squid would be worth at least a smile.

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love my cat and dog

by jdclyde In reply to Man's best friend

great companions.

The dog is a great guardian for my boys, as NO one can touch them while that dog is around, including me.

They both follow me around (no, I don't smell like steak!).

The dog is at my feet and cat is on my lap when I am on the computer.

I do understand what neil is saying about it just being a culture thing. In the civilized world we don't eat "cute" animals. If they are ugly it is ok to turn them into shoes and a burger.

I laugh that the pathetic "vegitarians" that still eat fish. Fish is still an animal, and is still meat. You eat meat or you don't eat meat. :^O

If we weren't suppose to eat animals, they wouldn't be made of meat!

What is the difference between meat and fish? If you beat your fish it dies! B-)

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by Old Guy In reply to love my cat and dog

I have some great recipes for cats...Just kidding! I don't eat them but cats can be walled really well.

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by jardinier In reply to love my cat and dog

I don't know how you arrived at the notion that vegetarians eat fish. Perhaps it is based on a small personal sampling.

I have had a lot of contact with vegetarians (as well as being one myself for a large portion of my life) and fish is regarded as MEAT and is not consumed.

"Vegans" go two steps further. They will not eat dairy products and in many cases will not wear garments and accessories made from animal skins.

I don't know whether the adjective "pathetic" is aimed at the notion of vegetarianism in general, or at the fact that some you have met eat fish.

I know plenty of people who have lived a long, healthy life on either a vegetarian or vegan diet.

Hindus and Buddhists seem to have managed quite well on a vegetarian diet for a couple of millennia at least.

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by neilb@uk In reply to Vegetarians

Without a suitable vitamin supplement, most vegans would be extremely unhealthy. Without the modern world's transport of fresh foodstuffs out of season, most temperate climate vegans would be unhealthy.

There is no vegetable source for B12.

A dietary regime that is reliant on artificial vitamin enhancement and routinely results in the slower physical and mental development of children doesn't necessarily qualify for the adjective "pathetic" but it comes pretty damned close. Veganism is just another religion.

Oh dear. We seem to be disagreeing a lot lately, Jules.


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Veganism is a religion?

by jardinier In reply to Vegans

religion (Oxford Dictionary).
1 the belief in a superhuman controlling power, esp. in a personal God or gods entitled to obedience and worship.
2 the expression of this in worship.
3 a particular system of faith and worship.
4 life under monastic vows (the way of religion).
5 a thing that one is devoted to (football is their religion).

Well I guess it might scrape into definition 5.

However it doesn't have nearly as many devotees as the Religion of Atheism.

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