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Microsoft targets amateur programmers

by MaryWeilage Editor In reply to Microsoft targets amateur ...

Microsoft announced its new "Express" line of developer tools at TechEd Europe today. Executives also confirmed that beta versions of SQL Server 2005 and Visual Studio 2005 are "imminent."

Tell us what you think about Microsoft targeting nonprofessional programmers.

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Not so original, always looking for the number one to adopt efforts

by Mawis In reply to Microsoft targets amateur ...

It?s ok, but not so original. I think MS is always looking for new targets and ideas outside its own innovation range.

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by sysdev In reply to Microsoft targets amateur ...

In some cases, it will be fine. In most cases, it will be in the same category as giving the keys to the car to a five year old and placing an automatic weapon on the front seat as well. Some people clearly know what they are doing and what their limitations may be. Others (like the kind of user who has not updated his or her system since the computer was purchased and has nothing to prevent them from becoming the 'zombies' with trojan horse type viruses which enable DDOS attacks) will cause potentially severe damage to their own and other systems. There is a saying 'a little knowledge is a dangerous thing'. I do not think that I need to say more.

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Affordable tools are always welcome

by bo In reply to Microsoft targets amateur ...

Bravo Microsoft! Apple and Sun both provide solid and affordable MacOS X and Java development tools, and the freeware Web Matrix Project handles ASP.NET development well. But to tackle C# and J# development I have had to typically plunk down over $100 (USD) every six months for comparable "amateur programming" tools in the Microsoft realm. As a technical writer and webmaster specializing in programmer-level documentation, I can't afford to limit myself to just one programming environment or language, and so need inexpensive tools for all of the major platforms. The more the merrier, especially for web-plus-desktop-development toolsets like C#plusASP.NET. And lots of bright programmers live in countries where $100 tools are impractical.

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bad move, leave it to the pros

by paulfisher44 In reply to Microsoft targets amateur ...

I'm in my mid 30's and got started in programming when i was 13. so i've been around.
back in the 80's, the computer education environment taught the basics of data processing techniques and other very important skills. these are things lacking in today's education. by catering to the non-skilled, you end up getting poor developers in return instead of keeping the standards at a point where true professionals and not script kiddies get the job done.

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Job security

by TerryMcGinnis In reply to Microsoft targets amateur ...

More amateur programmers pumping out "applications" with tools such as Access and Express means that there are more opportunities for professionals to come in after the fact to deliver professional solutions that actually meet business requirements.

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by dbrown486 In reply to Microsoft targets amateur ...

Microsoft is putting "cheap" development software out there for rookies. The reality is they're putting cheaper development software out there to compete with all the open source development tools. PHP, Perl, and Java programmers are REALLY who this is directed at. Doesn't matter though, I'll look at these tools and see if they are of use to me as a professional programmer of 20 years.

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Does nothing except help...

by thesnowfamily In reply to Microsoft targets amateur ...

I am sure I will get blasted but my feeling is this only helps the pro's. As someone tries to develop a concept, they will either succeed or reach the limitations of the software. If they succeed, no harm done. You can almost bet that eventually they will need an enhancement that only a pro can do. If they reach the limit, they will more than likely look to a pro to "finish". This allows the pro's to bill for clean-up of the mess the user has made and finish the project.

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Enterprise IT

by Chris_Oz In reply to Microsoft targets amateur ...

The words "nonprofessional" developer are enough to send a chill down the spine of any application portfolio manager in a medium/large organisation. MS Access is an end-user aka nonprofessional tool which works fine until the technically minded person who built the core business database leaves and suddenly its - oh IT can you make these changes and we need them tomorrow. Imagine the number of nonprofessionally developed applications flooding an organistion - no reuse, no standards, no testing, no quality - please no!

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what's the big deal

by warpK1 In reply to Enterprise IT

Everyone seams worried about the awefull code that will now be produced, because of these tools. First, sloppy coding can be found everywhere, doesn't matter what tool is used. Second, if this allows a 13 year old to become a better coder, then maybe when he's in his mid thirties, he won't be bitching about the sloppy code.

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