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Motherboard / Graphics Card

By .Martin. ·
Hey, again.

For those that pay attention to the forums, it may seem that there is always something wrong with my computer, and honestly it seems to...

This time it is not of any large problem, but I would like to get some other opinions before I go to Asus.

I am not sure how long this problem has been around, as it is not easily known. But this is how it started:
Last week I had the 'fantastic' idea to upgrade my RAM (1GB to 4GB) and my video card (onboard VGA to a Galaxy NVIDIA 9600GSO 384MB graphics card). Now the RAM went in and is working perfectly. But not the graphics card...

The graphics card went into the PCI-16x slot, and the fan spun when the computer turned on. But this was my problem; I got no image, the majority of the time, that is. 14 out of 15 times the screen would stay blank, when the monitor was attached to the card, the other one time, the computer would load (with image) until when windows (XP) almost finished loading, then crash, showing a BSOD for a split second. Although weirdly, when it did show an image, I was able to boot into safe mode.

After a trip back to the computer store with the card, finding it wasn't the card, I took my computer in to be looked at. I must note here that I had the same problem last year, with a PCI IDE card, which did the same thing. A few days later I got a call saying my computer was done, multiple graphics cards tried, none worked, problem maybe PCI slots...

BIOS settings have been upgraded; driver was installed, but still no luck...

I have thought about this for a few days, and don't know if his diagnostic is completely true. With both of my cases, the object worked (sometimes), and then crashed the computer. Do you have any ideas on it???

Here are the specs of my computer:
Processor: Pentium 4 3.20Ghz
OS: Windows XP
Motherboard: Asus P5GZ-MX
HD Western Digital 80GB

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NA it's this Bloody Site Redesign. :_|

by OH Smeg In reply to Hey Col you going for <b ...

My Workspace hardly ever opens & when I go to log out it takes forever. But logging in takes less than a second and always works unlike Logging out. X-(

Sort of makes me wonder why I bother really.

Col

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Look on the bright side :)

by Jacky Howe In reply to NA it's this Bloody Site ...

it will get fixed one day.

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What PCI Card?

by OH Smeg In reply to don't think it could

If you insert a Video Card into a PCI Slot is still needs to communicate with the M'Board Chipset and if you have a Incompatibility between the Video & M'Board Chip Sets it doesn't matter if it is a PCI or PCI Express Video Card.

Similarly some PCI Cards can cause the system to lock up I have M$ Approved Video Capture Card that causes some M'Boards to just refuse to work they will not boot or show any signs of life except for running fans. The moment you remove that Video Capture Card the unit works perfectly and if you insert the Video Capture Card into a different computer that works perfectly so it is just a Incompatibility between that particular Video Capture Card family and that particular M'Board family.

Also with PCI Cards it is sometimes possible to have one fail to work in a otherwise perfect computer and moving the card to a different PCI Socket will cure the problem. This arises because the Resources can not be allocated as required by the different parts of the system and was a very common event way back in the old DOS Days where you had to manually configure DMA & IRQ Addressing of all components. The fact that is isn't common today isn't because the hardware is so much better just that there is less variety available.

In the old days when a new Chip Set was released you had to take pot luck as to if it would work with an existing M'Board and it was a very common occurrence that a Small System Builder would get new parts and they simply failed to work together requiring replacement Video Cards to be sourced and fitted.

Every Daughter Card no matter what it is has Integrated Circuits on it and these different Chip Sets do cause problems sometimes. It is possible to buy a Industry Accepted Unit like a High End Sound Blaster Card and have it cause a M'Board to stop booting or even posting. While this is generally related to new Plug in Card Types with older M'Boards it can happen any time that incompatible components are chosen for a computer so looking at what is thought as a Ideal Card of some description isn't enough you need to look to see if there are any Known Issues with the other components that you currently have or in the case of a new build the components that you are considering using to build a new computer.

You can go out and buy what are considered as th Best M'Board CPU unit fit the wrong brand of RAM and have the unit fail to do anything. Similarly you can buy a High End M'Board, Video Card and Sound Card and they just can not work together or in some cases will only work together if you do not overclock the CPU.

Or you can upgrade the existing RAM in a computer by adding more and you can have Timing Issues between the different RAM Sticks so you have a Unstable System that falls over unexpectedly and without any way to prevent or see why it is happening.

Component Selection is very important and is often overlooked by all but the Professional System Builder.

Col

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In the Bios

by mamies In reply to Motherboard / Graphics Ca ...

There maybe a setting that will ask you to either use the PCI slot or the intergrated or something like that. If it is not set on PCI or PCIe it will not show anything, It will need to be done before inserting the graphics card.

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settings right...

by .Martin. In reply to In the Bios

bios is configured correctly, as one in ten times I do get an image on the graphics card, but the computer crashes whenever that happens...


sorry about the double post

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settings right...

by .Martin. In reply to In the Bios

bios is configured correctly, as one in ten times I do get an image on the graphics card, but the computer crashes whenever that happens...


sorry about the double post

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Question?. Does your motherboard support 4GB of RAM?.

Take out 2GB of Ram and try booting up.
Why i say this is that the ram you have on board is too much for the board to handle.
Have a read on your manual. :)

Please post back if you have any more problems or questions.

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What

by Jacky Howe In reply to Motherboard / Graphics Ca ...

was the outcome.

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What I Think

by .Martin. In reply to What

I think, that my motherboard is a bit of junk... so I ended up returning the graphics card...

From my past experience with it, i believe there is something wrong with the motherboard, and as it is still working now (knock on wood), in the future, when I look at upgrading to a Dual Core/Quad Core processor, I will upgrade the Motherboard, and get a graphics card...

The one thing I got out of this (other than a lot of frustration) is that for now, I can not use anything with a PCI connection...

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