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I went to school with a guy named

by road-dog In reply to Names

Mitch Rozonkiewiecz, that name was enough to make a substitute teacher give up taking attendance in disgust....

The Indians I've dealt with are more than happy to go through their name syllable by syllable to make sure you get it. It's a simple courtesy to at least try, time permitting.

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I feel sorry for them..

by faradhi In reply to Names

That showes an underlying bigotary. Bigotary stims from fear and hatred. I do not get angry at those individual, I pity them. I would not want to live in a constant state of fear and hatred that individual like that do.
I pray for them. I hope that their hearts are healed.

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does it really?

by jdclyde In reply to I feel sorry for them..

Everytime someone laughs at a 7/11 style joke on The Simpsons, they are a racist that fears and hates?

Can this be carried on to any "joke" that makes fun of anyone else? Polock jokes, black jokes, blonde jokes?

While yes, many ARE intended to be mean, I find that is what most of what passes for humor these days is.

How far does it go? Everytime you hear a Bush "joke" it is always intended to be hateful and mean. Is that fear and hatred too?

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by faradhi In reply to does it really?

"Everytime someone laughs at a 7/11 style joke on The Simpsons, they are a racist that fears and hates?"

No, it is about intent. Simpson jokes do not intend to defame. They are equal opportunity offenders. The intent is to make fun of the stereotype not the race.

"Can this be carried on to any "joke" that makes fun of anyone else? Polock jokes, black jokes, blonde jokes?"

IMHO if the intent is to defame a group of individuals then Yes. Every time you make a joke about a stereotype, you reinforce that stereotype that probably started from fear and hatred. On a side note, how did the polish get the rep of being stupid?

"While yes, many ARE intended to be mean, I find that is what most of what passes for humor these days is."

That may be but I refuse to let my morality and conduct to be governed by what passes these days.

"Everytime you hear a Bush "joke" it is always intended to be hateful and mean. Is that fear and hatred too?"

Every Bush joke is not intended to be hateful and mean. Further, Bush does not get jokes just because he is a member of a particular his religion, race, or physical appearance. Bush gets jokes based on what he does individually. Finally, Bush chose to place himself in a position that is always joked about. (Like waving at Ray Charles at the Concert for America.)

The line for me is very clear. Criticizing a group of people for something that is beyond their control with the intent to defame. Like I said, I pray for those individuals.

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Humor

by evmafau In reply to does it really?

Humor is designed to make comments on behavior. Doesn't neccessarily imply racism: when Chris Rock or Bill Cosby rails against some black behavior, are they being racist or making comments to try and affect some change?

There is a base of fear and hate because of a level of uncertanty and unfamiliarity with different cultures. Humor helps deflate that, in many circumstances, especially, as above, it comes from within.

On a different note there is a level of fear in Bush jokes because of the power that's been "bestowed" upon him and how he chooses to (mis)use it. Really, who waves at Stevie Wonder?

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Was it Stevie or Ray..

by faradhi In reply to Humor

I cant remember, I just remember the wave and Mrs. Bush yanking his arm down.

That's one I can actually understand. We are conditioned to wave back when someone waves at us. It is still very funny.

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Stevie

by evmafau In reply to Was it Stevie or Ray..

Found this link to a blog:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/bushwave.htm

So it may have been blown out of proportion. I think it just lends to the need for intellectual screenings to be eligible for certain government posts. If we've got regulations on age and nationality, then there should be a questionaire also. We already discriminate both religously and racially for the position (not explicitly, but it's there), why not get the dumb people out of the equation as well?

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I have no problems with names but

by zlitocook In reply to Names

If I can not understand what they are saying I have a problem. I work with people from all over and most try to learn what they are talking about. In major companies it is a requirement to learn that countries languages to be able to interact with them.
Our country has a lot of people from every continent and every nationality. All of the people from other countries made sure they could talk to us .

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Names?? Titles???

by mjd420nova In reply to Names

I have to work with a large cross section of humanity from just about every nation on the planet. We strive to reach a common point on
which we can communicate, and it may take some
patience and some effort but I find it easy and
sometimes act as a go between for a co-worker
who might not understand another worker well
enough to break the barrier. A little learning
can also be learned from them by exchanging
greetings in native languages. I commonly walk down a hallway of 20 offices and 10 laboratories
and won't use the same greeting twice. I didn't
realize it until my trainee asked if I'd learned
each language. This can be difficult if the person involved wants to make it that way and
even some do it intentionally. I like to ask for
nicknames and welcome others to use them, even they make up their own or wish to use one for me.
One lab tech in a refinery chemical lab saw me
in a store with a young man (30) and started calling me DADDY as a nickname when he found out the young man was my son. PERSPECTIVE HELPS

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A different problem

by jardinier In reply to Names

I have lunch in a cafe owned by a Korean. He knows very little English and when I talk to him he just smiles and afterwards I realise he hasn't understood a word I said. As he lived in New Zealand for seven years before coming to Australia a few years ago, I think he should BLOODY WELL learn English.

I have the same problem with a Chinese man who processes my films. However instead of smiling he just tries to bamboozle me with a lot of irrelevant conversation.

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