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From one who learned the hard way

by levannah44@smartchat.net. In reply to Names

When I was at school - and I'm talking primary school here, not secondary - all my classmates had difficulty pronouncing my name. So did the teachers, although they all tried to get it right.

The problem was because my name contained a dipthong sound not found in English, so it never surprised me that so many people couldn't get their tongues around my name.

The only person who ever pronounced it the correct way was my German teacher in Year 10 (Intermediate), and by then, I'd become so sick of everyone mispronouncing it that I'd already shortened it (out of sheer frustration) to something everyone could say.

Now, even my family call me by the shortened version, and I doubt I'd be able to respond to anyone calling me by my real name, because I'm so used to the other by now.

Pity that, in a way. I like my full name, but simply won't tolerate those who can't take the trouble to say it properly. I always try to pronounce other people's names correctly, and when unsure, I ask them to tell me how to say it.

So take heed all those of you out there with long or complicated 'foreign' names like me. Don't do what I did. Persevere and get your friends to practice your name until they've got it down pat. It's much easier in the long run.

Gret (or, if you prefer, Gretchen, with that tricky 'ch' sound simply not found in English)

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You may have had a different problem

by amcol In reply to From one who learned the ...

I'm assuming from your story you grew up either in the US or in an English speaking country.

The "tch" dipthong exists throughout English. For example, fetch, latch, catch, and snatch, just to name a few.

"Gretchen" is not that hard a name to pronounce. You may have been the victim of perhaps not-so-subtle discrimination growing up. I can't imagine how any English speaker could have to much trouble with your name.

I know three women named Gretchen. Two go by that name, and the third prefers "Greta" for reasons unknown.

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The problem of non-English sounds

I grew up in Australia, amcol. My parents were European.

Yes, you're quite correct when you say that the 'tch' dipthong rhymes with words like fetch, catch, etc., except I wasn't including the 't' because that's not the correct way to say my name.

I know other Gretchens have anglicised their names by making them rhyme with the above words, but that's not the correct pronounciation.

The true 'ch' dipthong sound is not an English sound, and many English speakers have a real problem with it. The nearest I can get to it in English is the Scottish word 'loch', and even that's not quite right.

The German 'ch' is very gutteral, yet quite soft at the same time, pronounced from the back of the throat, a little bit like the Dutch 'g'. That's the best I can explain it, but I can assure you, amcol, that however your other Gretchen friends pronounce their names, it's not correct for the German pronounciation, to which I was referring.

Gret (aka Gretchen!)

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You may have had a different problem

by amcol In reply to From one who learned the ...

I'm assuming from your story you grew up either in the US or in an English speaking country.

The "tch" dipthong exists throughout English. For example, fetch, latch, catch, and snatch, just to name a few.

"Gretchen" is not that hard a name to pronounce. You may have been the victim of perhaps not-so-subtle discrimination growing up. I can't imagine how any English speaker could have too much trouble with your name.

I know three women named Gretchen. Two go by that name, and the third prefers "Greta" for reasons unknown.

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Personal Opinion

by maxwell edison In reply to Names

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If a person is offended because someone else has trouble pronouncing his/her name, then it's the former that has the real problem, not the latter. And to them, I'd say, T-O-L-E-R-A-N-C-E, and get over it, already.

People mispronounce my name all the time, and I couldn't care any less. They start it with an A, while I start with an M. Go figure.

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Everyone's entitled to their own opinion

by levannah44@smartchat.net. In reply to Personal Opinion

Max, I have all the tolerance in the world, and never flinch if someone mispronounces my name once or twice.

It's when it gets to be all the time, even deliberately, by those who simply can't be bothered to take even a moment to stop and learn to say a name. They exist.

I always try to say other people's names correctly myself; if I don't know, I ask, and practice until I've got it right. Surely those people could learn to treat myself, and others in the same boat, with enough courtesy to pronounce our names correctly.

As for yourself, I'm at a total loss. Maxwell seems straightforward enough to me. No hidden 'foreign' sounds or anything of that nature. Axwell, if that's what you're driving at, completely floors me.

Cheers

Gret(chen)

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Gret - It was an attempt at humor

by maxwell edison In reply to Everyone's entitled to th ...

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Some people (around here) seem to get A$$ out of Max.

(Okay, it was a stupid attempt at humor.)

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Max

by maecuff In reply to Gret - It was an attempt ...

I got it right away. Guess it's not much of a stretch?

Have a good day! :)

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Mae, what are you implying about Maxwell

by M_a_r_k In reply to Max

by so easily turning Max into A$$ ? I thought that might be what he was referring to about his name but it seemed way too much of a stretch. Funny thing about my name is that most eople pronounce it correctly but they often misspell it. They leave out the underscores between all the letters.

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mark

by maecuff In reply to Mae, what are you implyin ...

That is because typing MunderscoreAunderscoreRunderscoreKunderscore is a pain in the Max..

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