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NO IT, world comes to a stop within a month

By kujo1us ·
The world needs to understand that if IT went on strike then everything would just stop, no email, no access, not anything.
Unionizing would be the best thing to happen to IT if we could get our own Union, the Govt isnt going to protect us, they are happy keeping us as wage slaves, with a Union it is in their best interests to protect their members.

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by Jaqui In reply to What like MCSE you mean ?

not a lowest common denominator worthless piece of paper.

literally, more along the lines of apprenticeship systems, with basic knowledge via schooling and supervised work experience using the knowledge to gain certification.

a set of "standards" for each level of certification that are accepted as required internationally. The standards would be based on the actual technology, such as tcp/ip rather than any os' implimentation of a technology. The "business schools" wouldn't even come close to being acceptable education for admittance to the program by their current level of education.

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A guild, or chartership

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to nope

It has possibilities, but 'IT' is huge, can get very cross disciplinary, and historically however laudable the intentions of the people who set such bodies up initialy they've always ended up being very conservative and concentrated more of preserving the literal interpretation of the rules instead if the spirit. The commercial pressure to introduce lowest common denominator validation would be intense.

If you wanted to even start making a real success of it in terms of power within it, you'd have to really balance off those who set themselves as masters, which all too often was a position gained from longevity and political ambition.

Apprenticeships as in combining academia and practice, well the adavantages are obvious, unfortunately all most businesses see is the initial short term cost.

And of course it makes people way more expensive, than some poor gowk straight out of academia with their new shiny vendor cert.

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I know

by Jaqui In reply to A guild, or chartership

it has failings, but it is a better option than a union.

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The chaos we have now is better than a union

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to I know

Have you noticed that it's the failures who keep calling for one....

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my idea better than both

by Jaqui In reply to The chaos we have now is ...

and yup, I have noticed that.
The chaos we have now doesn't do anything for I.T. at all.

Something is needed to fix the problems, but a union isn't it.

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That pretty much goes for any other trade

by Dr Dij In reply to NO IT, world comes to a s ...

no bankers, world would stop in two weeks next time you got your check.

without electrical workers power plants would shut down and you'd be out of job same day.

without dr's world would end when you got acutely sick (ok about 6 months)

without supermarket owrkers world would end when your fridge got empty in a week.

and without water you'd dehydrate in a day.

without cops ravaging hordes would steal your stuff and kill you.

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Gods of us all, not again.

by CharlieSpencer In reply to NO IT, world comes to a s ...

No electricity, IT comes to a stop immediately.

No food, electrical workers come to a stop in a couple of weeks.

No water, farmers come to a stop in a couple of days.

Get over yourself; IT isn't the be-all and end-all you think it is. It's just one more piece of the puzzle.

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I was in a heavily-unionised industry and it was awful...

by OldER Mycroft In reply to NO IT, world comes to a s ...

I witnessed it reach the point that actual friendships could be destroyed when it was discovered that the 2 'friends' were in different unions and felt it difficult to maintain their friendship.

The Print Unions, of which there are no less than SIX of them, have a throttle-hold over the Printing industry to the point of having differently coloured lines painted on the shop floor. Depending on which Union Card you happen to carry, defines which coloured lines you are allowed to cross.

So, you end up with situations where an employee has to walk all the way round the edge of a factory shop floor the size of 2 or 3 football pitches, because he doesn't have union membership that let him simply walk across the shop floor.

The concept of trade unions can be taken too far. Woe betide if Unions ever got into IT.

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If programmers go on strike, it would take years, before anyone notices.

by jkameleon In reply to NO IT, world comes to a s ...

As for the rest of the IT... i guess this is what it would look like.

A while ago, I pulled off to get gas on <a href="">this gas station</a> (and no, it's not me on the picture, just some drunk driver). Nothing worked, and there was a queue of customers inside the shop. I went inside, to see what's going on. Inside, there were two wide eyed attendants, totally lost. One was under the table, yanking the cables and pushing Reset button, and the other was explaining to the customers that their server went down, and that they are totally lost without it. And then, one of the customers (not me) said: "Say, dude, why don't you just use pencil and paper? You could sell the gasoline at least to those of us with cash on us until you fix the server." Problem solved.

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My world

by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to NO IT, world comes to a s ...

has a blast with IT. But sure doesn't end without it.

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