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No one calls me about my resume

By TJD0200 ·
This threat is probably pretty repetitive compared to everyone else's who is looking for new work. But, I'm having quite a problem. I'm 25, been out of school almost 4 years with a degree in MIS, and did two relevant IT internships in college. Presently, I've been with the same company for the past 3 years and its time to move on. Its a small company without about 60 workstations and 5 servers. I run the whole infrastructure including setup, maintenance, etc. right down to doing all of the cabling. Also, I manage and maintain the phone system too.

I know I'm young. But, as far as real-time experience I think I'm pretty well versed. I can say with some confidence that I'm pretty competent. I just don't have paper saying I did these things.

But, I can't seem to find another job. Before, I was at the company I'm with now, I spoke to a job hunting consultant and he told me was to shave my goatee, which didn't get me a job by the way.

Any advice for someone in my position looking to take the next step into either more advanced network administration or analysis.

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Go as an Entrepreneur

by steve-nyeoka In reply to or China (PRC)

Not a bad idea.

Set up shop. Pay the locals $.50/hr. Put your former employer out of business (after all, the engineering the hard part).

Learn from US TV manufacturers....they allowed the Japanese to first build, then design TV's. Then found they were no longer needed....

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You don't have paper...

by mlayton In reply to No one calls me about my ...

saying you did what things? Your resume is supposed to be that paper!

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You resume is your sales brouchure

by JamesRL In reply to No one calls me about my ...

If it isn't working, change it.

There are lots of good books and wesbites with advice. I always recommend and he has a service where if you send your resume to him he will critique it for free. There are resume tips on the site as well.

But as others suggest you should also look at internet searches, personal networking and all other sources. You might also want to investigate marketing letters and targeting some companies.


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Find someone to critique your resume

by gardoglee In reply to You resume is your sales ...

In addition to online resume services (most of whom are trying to sell you something), find someone you know who is a hiring manager and ask them to critique your resume. If you a really lucky they will decide to hire you. Second best, they will know someone else who will hire you (see 'networking' above and below). And in any case, they will be able to tell you what is good and what is bad in your resume.

Having a second pair of eyes look at your paper is good when you write something like code or documentation, but essential when you write something like a resume. It is all too easy to write something which makes sense to you but which either doesn't make sense, or doesn't convey the significance of what you are saying to someone else. It is also way too easy to put in stuff which seems important to you but which is irrelavent or eeven irritating to a hirinmg manager. Get one or more (only a few, not fifty) people you can trust to take a look and give you advice, and then pay attention to it.

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by highlander718 In reply to No one calls me about my ...

not sure if you know, but theory says (and from my experience I can confirm) that if you send out 100 resumes you might get 2-3-4 calls and land 1 or 2 interviews (not jobs neccesarely).

That ratio improved somewhat in my case after taking a job hunting course and learning how to build a good resume. I got like 15-20 calls per 100 Resumes, got into aprox 10 interviews and had 3 job offers (Not neccesarely stelar :-))

So first thing is to send out lots of resumes.

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Post your cv here , sans contact information

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Ratio

There could still be lots of things wrong with your approach even with a 'perfect' cv.
But if the first bit after the contact info, does n't grab the attention of someone who's looking for your skill set, you might as well wipe your arse on it.
I'm a developer with 18 years in so my attention grabber is a skillset as long as your arm with number of years I've got in each skill. My cv still get's binned on aoccasion, but recruiters and HR get a warm fuzzy feeling inside when they read it. It's says, safe bet.
You've got to stand out on page one, and three years in a one man shop should be stand out material.

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by RizwanDean In reply to No one calls me about my ...

I know how you feel. I'm 23 and I have a huge amount of experience in Systems Administration. I maintain a 2003 Enterprise Server in my house. I know the 2003 environment from beginning to end but because of my age, it is hard to make people believe I know everything there is to know about 2003. I have had people ask me if I know what an Active Directory is! I even have significant knowledge of Linux. I have a Degree in IT from an Australian University but still find it difficult getting a job here in my country. Its almost as if people do not trust younger people to be able to handle Management roles or even manage companies. Most of my peers also have significant experience not only in IT but in management as well and yet they are minor tasks such as plugging VOIP phones into sockets. All those years in uni have boiled down to this: plugging phones into sockets.

My advice to you: Keep hunting and have a firm belief in what you do. Let people know that you're not someone they can treat like an understudy. You have the experience, but because of your age, your employers will always doubt your abilites...

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When people tell me they know all about

by jtakiwi In reply to Re:

IT, or Servers, or Cisco, it is an alarm that they in fact know alot about a tiny fraction of the whole and they just aren't aware of the other 99%. No slam on you, but I recruit IT folks (and I am a current IT professional w/ over 9 yrs. of experience), and you would be amazed (maybe not, actually) how many people overestimate their skill level. Confidence is one thing, but when I ask you: "on a scale of one to ten, rate your skill level installing, configuring and maintaining Cisco firewalls" and the guy says "10". So, I whip out a piece of paper and tell him to write down the lines I would need in a PIX firewall to route all traffic from a given subnet to a given subnet, and limit it to just rdp traffic. He looks at me like I asked him to share a bong and states (after a few seconds of uncomfortable silence) that he usually cuts and pastes, then modifies it. So, make sure you self assess accurately, and remeber, no one knows "all about" IT.

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IT is tricky

by Kreeseis In reply to Re:

they doubt you when you're young and they doubt you when you're old. the key is to get into position so that you have the pick of the litter during your prime.

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My suggestions

by kristinafh In reply to No one calls me about my ...


I've been in your situation before although I'm not an infrastructure chick. In fact, just last night I wrote on my blog about this. Instead of retyping all of it, I'll just give you the link here.

Some other things I would suggest:

1) Your skills are ALWAYS needed in volunteer-type situations. I'm not saying to start working 50 million hours a week to just get someone to notice you. Find some organization that interests you (think religious, non-profit - i.e. big brothers/big sisters, united way like) and volunteer to help them with some situation. It doesn't have to be a lot of hours. One of my buddy's did this a couple of years ago. He spent 7-8 hours helping them set-up their computer stuff (how's that for technical terms?!) and since then, it has paid off TONS. These were people that had nothing to do with his profession yet because he did such a good job for them, they recommended him to others. He now has this network of people built up that are not at all in the IT group yet some of them have their own businesses and/or are in positions to get them in front of people who can hire him into areas he wants to move into. He started out as (what he calls) a desktop jockey, and now, he's designing network infrastructures.

2) And I have GOT to comment on the goatee thing. I assume that you are a reasonably intelligent, well-kept (hygiene wise) individual. If someone asked me to alter my appearance, I would need some very STRONG data to back up that opinion. Sounds to me like this job hunter was just biased and he was projecting his own thoughts on to you. Which sucks.

Anyway, sorry to be so wordy. I just wanted to give you a different side of things because although resumes are important, it really does come down to who you know.

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