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No one calls me about my resume

By TJD0200 ·
This threat is probably pretty repetitive compared to everyone else's who is looking for new work. But, I'm having quite a problem. I'm 25, been out of school almost 4 years with a degree in MIS, and did two relevant IT internships in college. Presently, I've been with the same company for the past 3 years and its time to move on. Its a small company without about 60 workstations and 5 servers. I run the whole infrastructure including setup, maintenance, etc. right down to doing all of the cabling. Also, I manage and maintain the phone system too.

I know I'm young. But, as far as real-time experience I think I'm pretty well versed. I can say with some confidence that I'm pretty competent. I just don't have paper saying I did these things.

But, I can't seem to find another job. Before, I was at the company I'm with now, I spoke to a job hunting consultant and he told me was to shave my goatee, which didn't get me a job by the way.

Any advice for someone in my position looking to take the next step into either more advanced network administration or analysis.

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by HighTechAngel In reply to My suggestions

I've heard this too. That's a wonderful suggestion specially for young people who can afford spending some time investing in their future.


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Goatee and my 2 cents

by darcyi In reply to My suggestions

The theory behind facial hair of any kind is that you've got something to hide. I know, maybe prejudicial, but it's a fact. Add to this the people doing the hiring tend to be older and associate beards and such with their own hippie days (i.e., you become them as callow youth on LSD).
As a former hirer, I would find very few resum?s that didn't have either spelling or grammatical errors. All those that did found their way to the round file immediately.

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shaving goatee doesn't fetch job

by neetu_k2004 In reply to No one calls me about my ...

in your case i think you should upload your cv on the website of motorola, cisco, siemens etc,i.e the companies which are into networking..and besite you can do a certificate course in networking ccna or something.

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You're not alone

by HighTechAngel In reply to No one calls me about my ...

We all go through the same situation now and then. I'm on the opposite side of the street. I'm 50, with two degrees: a BS in CS from a foreign country and a recent Associate is Science (Microsoft Solutions Developer) from an american college along with a membership to Phi Theta Kappa. A 25-year-hands-on experience, strong software skills, and facing exactly the same situation. I really wonder what companies are looking for, but I have certainly learned something: you can't give up, you must keep on searching, and keep on aiming high. The best is yet to come, believe me.



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You are not alone - II

by jorge In reply to You're not alone

High TechAngel,
I posted some comment at Kristina?s blog were I pointed that in Brazil the situation is not good too. I am 54 old, no one degree in any university, but I lived beside of the computers since the old times - 1973 - and late in 1975 when I was using a Burroughs L series as part of my job activities in the financial dept. There to here, I saw a lot of computer equipments, learned something more each day, and since 1992 I work alone as independent professional in the TI world. I divide with you the worries with what really the companies are looking for.

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From my experience

by halibut In reply to No one calls me about my ...

What city market you are in can make a huge difference too. If you are in a smaller non technical center you will find that there is a lot more competition and less jobs to be found. I personally am in Calgary, Alberta, Canada and the city is one of the main technical centers of Canada. With a population of 1 million people and a bustling market I am getting called every two weeks about a different job without even putting out a resume.

I can't say enough about the networking aspect of job hunting. I have about 10 years experience in the same field doing the same thing.

First, look to head hunting organizations and get a name and number for them. Phone them and arrange an INFORMAL meeting with them, after the meeting with them bug them. I mean phone them every week and ask them what they have in the works. You would be amazed how much that helps them keep you in the front of their minds. And positions come in, they phone you before it is even posted. Accounting, Help Desk, System Administrative, Networking Admin, Consultant, you name it. I had a network of about 9 different such firms and I hadn't been without a contract for more than a couple of weeks.

Secondly, rework your resume to include a overview of you that begs them to want to read more, next outline technologies that you have worked with. Use both the full terms and the abbreviations of the technologies, (this is great for the agencies database searchs) and group them into a skills matrix at the begining of the resume, then list your certifications and your education and then the work experience. Use actions words for all descriptions, and always put them in the present tense.

I hope that helps.

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When was the last time you..?

by beads In reply to No one calls me about my ...

Rewrote your resume/cv? Are you still using your entry level resume today? Items that college graduates often put on paper become fairly 'fluffy' once you've gotten your feet wet a bit with a career. Items like GPA, personal interests, health, etc. aren't going to help much now. Center on accomplishments and skills. These are the items that get your resume noticed.

Have friends or acquientences look at your resume and give you an honest opinion. Always use a grammer and spelling check. Once you think you've gotten your resume/cv bulletproof. Have a professional tear it up. You'd really be amazed at what some of these people notice. Once you've had your resume/cv humiliated a bit - I have, trust me. Post it to Monster, CareerBuilder and any local job boards. No pictures of yourself during summer vacation, etc. Stick to the facts and be prepared to bolster if not defend them to a potential employer. Confidence shows through on a resume as well as in person.

Always try to have a phone interview first and if there is still genuine interest on both sides, arrange an interview. Notice that the word 'INTERview' means between two parties. Otherwise it would be an INTRAview. One party looking at another. Since I am not a box of soap or a car, I prefer to interview. In other words don't be afraid to walk away from a potentially bad boss or unpleasant working situation.

I see that your in Conn. Is your search scope limited to your immediate area? How far are you willing to travel for the right position? These factors may also limit your search. Be honest with yourself and potential employers.

As far as the goatee is concerned. Your probably better off without the fadish facial hair as well as clothing. Its still a basic rule but people generally wish to hire others that remind them more of themselves than not. You'll see this if and when your in a hiring position and looking at candidates. So unless your interviewing with someone who is hard core counter-culture: tattos, facial hair and tie-dyed t-shirts should probably be left at home or atleast undercover until you have established yourself. A short well kempt moustache can be tolerated by most if it looks appropriate but may be a huge turn off for others. Thats simply human nature whether we like to admit it or not.

I had a heck of a time hiring a world class engineer once because he had huge fly away hair and my VP hated his hair! The guy was utterly brilliant but wasn't corporate enough to get by my boss. So he cut his hair. Didn't and wouldn't bother me a bit. I have to have my hair cut every six weeks or I'd look like Einstien was my barber as well. Keep to fashionable norms.

Well, I'm off to go yell at the new developer type about that tie-dyed t-shirt again. LOL.

You might think about posting your resume here sans contact information or past employers names with 'x's instead. That way TR won't become a jobbing board. But the rough details should be enough for us to make some decent pointers.

- beads

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I teach an IT class, and we work on resumes for 1 month.

by donkey_butter In reply to No one calls me about my ...

Without going into great elaborate detail about what we do I will go over the basics. We spend 1 month doing resumes 3 days a week because of the very reason you are writing about. When I left school I had the same issues. My resume was so horribly done that it took me 9 months to find a job. It wasn't until after 4 jobs that my resume started to become what it is now.

1. Your job experience should be summed up in bullet points.
When reading hundreds of resumes, the HR monkeys scan them looking for specific things. Reading a few bullet points compared to a paragraph is much easier on the eyes.
2. Industry specific language.
Often HR monkeys put in industry specific language into the job description without fully understanding what it means. Taking that and adding it to your resume is a sure fire way to set a flag in their head. (Look at the job descriptions on Monster i.e. software development becomes Full Life Cycle Software Development)  this makes a difference trust me.
3. Your resume has to exude confidence.
I did this, I excelled at that, I was instrumental in this.... etc
4. Numbers speak volumes.
I saved the company X amount of $ implementing this; I manage 100 workstations, 15 servers in 2 cities etc. Anything that shows you save the company money or something tangible they can wrap their minds around. You may have to estimate numbers, be sure you can back it up.
5. Be an asset.
Be Positive, Positive, Positive, in line with #3 and #4, you have to make sure that your resume says that by hiring me, we will work together to make this the best damn company possible. This kind of thing usually happens in interviews and phone screenings. You want the resume to highlight your qualities (both technical and personal) but leave the ability to talk about yourself and experiences outside of the resume.

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by dacook In reply to I teach an IT class, and ...

Being and actual hiring manager, not an educator, some of this advice is old school. my responses are noted for each of his points.

1. Do not do this; this is the fastest way to get your resume in my trash bucket. Even though he is right about HR not understanding techie stuff, they still pass it to me, the hiring manager.

2. "Industry specific language.
Often HR monkeys put in industry specific language into the job description without fully understanding what it means. "

Your right they don't but hiring managers can tell when you cut and paste from our own job posting. Take the ideas and concepts that they are looking for and make them your points in your resume. Maybe as a person looking for a job, you actually have to modify your resume for the job you are looking for.

3. Yes, I agree with this point
4. Yes, Good point
5. Yes, Good point Never Never Never, be negative. There is always a silver lining, I want to hire people that see that side not the negative.

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Resume Format & Style

by Traveling Expat In reply to

Greetings, you are just the person I am looking for. I had a decent resume that I designed after I retired from the military so that I can obtain contract positions and travel. It is pretty basic: Name & Contact Info, Work History, Education, Professional Training, and Passport & Mobility sections. Last year I clicked a link to have my resume critiqued by a "professional organization" to see if I could tweak it and make it a little better. The company came back with something completely different with a header paragraph full of buzz words and bullets, and sections like KEY COMPETENCIES, TECHNOLOGY (which is just a list of software and systems I have used), and then the Professional Experience and Education & Training.

I know that someone in your position or in HR is scanning a resume and that you need something that will snag your attention quickly. Is there a definitave answer to exactly what resume style to use along with samples that you can point me to?

Thank you

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