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No one calls me about my resume

By TJD0200 ·
This threat is probably pretty repetitive compared to everyone else's who is looking for new work. But, I'm having quite a problem. I'm 25, been out of school almost 4 years with a degree in MIS, and did two relevant IT internships in college. Presently, I've been with the same company for the past 3 years and its time to move on. Its a small company without about 60 workstations and 5 servers. I run the whole infrastructure including setup, maintenance, etc. right down to doing all of the cabling. Also, I manage and maintain the phone system too.

I know I'm young. But, as far as real-time experience I think I'm pretty well versed. I can say with some confidence that I'm pretty competent. I just don't have paper saying I did these things.

But, I can't seem to find another job. Before, I was at the company I'm with now, I spoke to a job hunting consultant and he told me was to shave my goatee, which didn't get me a job by the way.

Any advice for someone in my position looking to take the next step into either more advanced network administration or analysis.

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an example for points 3 & 4...

by Jaqui In reply to

CSR Four Corners Community Savings

Maintained 2 databases for the Bank
Created the service agreement for debit cards
Maintained the Cheque Printing Software*
Created Monthly reports on Term deposit activities for the Board of Directors
Resposnible for Maintaining the mailing list for monthly account statements as well as the actual mailing of the statements.
Processing of Patron transactions

Assistant Kitchen Manager
I was instrumental in bringing the food costs down 13%
Responsible for the Training of all Kitchen Staff.
Responsible for all ordering and receiving of food products.
Performed Daily and weekly inventories of all meat & dairy products

Both sets of accomplishments are completely true. :)
[ side note, that 13% drop was the first two weeks in the position, and it never went back up while I was in that position ]

* This Bank actually printed the Cheques for account holders in branch, so this software was extremely critical to normal operations.

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by dacook In reply to an example for points 3 & ...

"Maintained 2 databases for the Bank"

What kind? (Oracle, MySQL, Ingres, MS SQL) Not mentioning them already tells me as a hiring manager that you don't know what you are talking about.

What does the term maintained mean? Watched for errors in data migrations? Actively wrote SQL queries to get data out? Put details in your resume.

"Created the service agreement for debit cards"

How, with what applications. Did you interact with customers?

"Maintained the Cheque Printing Software"

Again define maintained. I am sure you and I have different opinions what that means.

"Responsible for maintaining the mailing list for monthly account statements as well as the actual mailing of the statements."

This is important? What kind of mail list? Excel? Is it a flat file? Did you automate it? What mail application did you use? (Mailman, List serv, Exchange) or was this an address database?


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show that you meet their requirements

by txiso In reply to

In some areas, hiring managers have to make a very strict list of what they're looking for (3 years' networking support experience with routers, switches, and cabling), and then when they evaluate resumes, they have to document whether the resume shows exactly that experience before they add up the scores and justify bringing the person in for an interview.

So make it easy on them. If they say 3 years of networking support, and that's what you have, then you say "3 years of networking support" (and then give supporting details). Some managers really are filling out a matrix with check boxes to decide whom to interview, in case the company gets sued later by someone who thinks he ought to have been hired.

There's nothing more frustrating than sitting around with a colleague, trying to figure out from a resume whether someone has 3 years of supporting networks (or just happened to use a network in his job) when that's your posted requirement.

Oh, and don't get hung up on fancy formatting if you don't have the content to back it up. One of my staff took to referring to one applicant as "Bullet Boy" because his resume was two pages of bullet points. Needless to say, he didn't have anything else going for him and we didn't call him.

To sum up: show them exactly how you meet their requirements and don't make them guess. Tailor every resume if you have to.

Good luck!

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Forget the goatee nonsense

by tfitzpatrick In reply to No one calls me about my ...

First off, as many people have already stated, we have all been there at one point or another. It sounds like you have the skills but need some work on your resume and/or interviewing skills. The resume will get you in the door, but the interview is the real 'deal breaker'. If you show the interviewer that you are ambitious, hard working and really love what you do, then your skills should speak for themselves.

As for the goatee, I would have told the job hunting consultant where to go. I have interviewed and hired men with and without facial hair and quite frankly, what difference does it really make? As long as it is well kept and the person has good hygiene habits, then what do I care if they have a goatee or not. I hope his advice was free because it certainly was not worth anything.

And by the way, I have a goatee and nobody has ever told me to shave it off.

Good luck, all the best.

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Ratios and whatnot

by Too Old For IT In reply to No one calls me about my ...

Each open position put in a newspaper attracts between 50 and 1000 resumes. The problem is that you are up against all the 22 year old fresh graduates who already have 10 years Windows 2003, 5+ years Windows Vista experience and have made their last employer 23 Billion in net profit.

This is where I diverge from the pack. I despise the "bigger, better, faster, more" school of resume writing. I don't see how making several millions in gross profits can be done, or for that matter has anything to do with, day-to-day network admin work..

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Cover Letter

by evmafau In reply to No one calls me about my ...

I've read a lot of good points about the resume, but no one's mentioned a cover letter. I graduated with my BS in MIS last year and just landed my second job in IT a couple weeks ago (switched from help desk to development) and, while I do have strong points on my resume, I'm willing to bet that my cover letter caught the hiring manager's eyes.

Resume has to be concise because they do see a lot. Develop just as strong a cover letter. Use it to go a little more in depth on your strengths. Gives you a way to tell more about yourself than just bullet points and shows them that you can communicate, which, especially when you're dealing in support situations, is one of the most important factors.

Just gotta keep plugging away.

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Good reply

by Roy Penfold In reply to Cover Letter

What more can I say...

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by dacook In reply to Cover Letter

I never read an applicants cover letter. I want to get to the r?sum? and see if they have what I am looking for..

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That's too bad

by Too Old For IT In reply to

The cover letter is where I put the 2-column chart: You require - I have

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Greatest Career Change Mistakes..

by stoppedtowatch In reply to No one calls me about my ...

Hi there
There's some really great advice in this thread, but most importantly you need to look at what you are good at, where your strengths are and identify the IT arena with the sort of problems you enjoy solving.

Once you can clearly state what you are looking for you can pick the people you want to work with, identify their problems, match yourself to them and start talking to them, using their language and all the ideas in this thread. Do your groundwork and you will attract the right employer, no worries.

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