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No one calls me about my resume

By TJD0200 ·
This threat is probably pretty repetitive compared to everyone else's who is looking for new work. But, I'm having quite a problem. I'm 25, been out of school almost 4 years with a degree in MIS, and did two relevant IT internships in college. Presently, I've been with the same company for the past 3 years and its time to move on. Its a small company without about 60 workstations and 5 servers. I run the whole infrastructure including setup, maintenance, etc. right down to doing all of the cabling. Also, I manage and maintain the phone system too.

I know I'm young. But, as far as real-time experience I think I'm pretty well versed. I can say with some confidence that I'm pretty competent. I just don't have paper saying I did these things.

But, I can't seem to find another job. Before, I was at the company I'm with now, I spoke to a job hunting consultant and he told me was to shave my goatee, which didn't get me a job by the way.

Any advice for someone in my position looking to take the next step into either more advanced network administration or analysis.

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Keywords

by mckinnej In reply to No one calls me about my ...

If you're fishing in the on-line job boards, keywords are vital bait. The most well-written resume will never been seen if is doesn't have keywords. Some of the job boards provide lists of the most searched for terms. That's a good place to start. Use as many as you honestly can and make sure to use the important ones a couple of times so you will come up to the top of their searches.

If you're working the local job market, networking is essential. Go to some meetings like the Chamber of Commerce, or anywhere else the local business leaders hang out, and press some flesh. A business card with a skill set on the back can be an excellent mini-resume.

One last tip. Remember this order.
1. Cover Letter - Gets them to read your resume.
2. Resume - Gets you an interview.
3. Interview - Gets you the job!!!
It doesn't matter how good #s 1&2 are if you can't nail #3.

PS. I've noticed a dramatic dive in the job market since the holidays. I was getting several calls a week back in Oct-Nov. Now I might get one or two a month. It has really dried up. Maybe it's just this area, but I'm not seeing the big demand for workers that some folks were predicting.

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Patience

by sandersr In reply to No one calls me about my ...

Good morning. I'm an old man who is now retired. During a 30 year career in technical sales I changed jobs every 3 years or so trying to get more money and more challenges. Turns out it was not a good idea since word got out over time that I moved TOO much. Stick with it for a little while, attend technical meetings and meet people, and be patient. The right opportunity will come along.

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What have you accomplished?

by A. Admin In reply to No one calls me about my ...

As a senior manager who hires (and fires) IT staff, I couldn't be more in agreement with previous posts which discuss: 1) preparing a good cover letter; 2) preparing a good resume (see below), and; 3) preparing a good interview. There are lots of good resources out there - books, peers, etc. Use 'em, because you may uncover some little tip or technique that puts you over the top.

I don't want to rehash what others have said, but do indeed use the cover letter to "tantalize" the recruiter to want to read the resume. Don't write a book, but do use the letter to give deeper insight into what you bring to the table. For example, the cover letter I used early in my managerial career let the recruiter know that, in addition to great technical skills I brought, for example, budgeting and planning skills with me.

I can tell you that most resumes I read contain far too many employment descriptions which begin with "Responsible for ... ". What I'm after is what impact what you did had on a project or on the business in general. For example, you did something that brought the project in under budget and ahead of schedule or saved the company x dollars per year.

In the interview, be interested, engaging, and knowledgeable. I and oterh hiring managers look for the proverbial "good fit". That's not solely based on technical expertise.

Finally, as tough as it is (and, of course, it's always easy to say this if you're employed), stick to it. Make finding a job your job. Do something each day to toward finding a job - tweak the resume, attend a job fair, call a new recruiter, drop off a resume, read a trade journal (many are free, and help keep you abreast of developments in our industry), etc.

HTH.

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Revamp your resume

Turn you resume upside down!

I'll bet you have your work history listed first after your name. BORING! Everyone does that.

Sit down with a pad of paper and ask yourself what have you accompished? Completing projects on time and/or under budget is always a good one to list. An example of "going the extra mile," finding innovative solutions, identified cost savings, etc.

List them all on your resume at the top. That will get their attention. It has worked for me.

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I hate reading resume's

by MR 'T' In reply to Revamp your resume

I dont hire computer programmers, I hire people. I need to know what separates you from everyone else. What can you do for me? Do you have ethics? Can you relate with people? Can you be a part of the team?

I have a foot-high stack of resumes on my desk, from people who applied for my open position. I will not be searching monster to find yours. By the end of the day, all but 10 will be in the recycle bin.

If you want yours to be one of the 10, I need answers to the questions in the first paragraph.

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I may be conducting interviews

by Too Old For IT In reply to I hate reading resume's

for a data center position in a few months. Because of the crap interviews I've endured over the years I may have a BMFH approach:

1. Diagram the following 3 sentences. (I'll snag these from some garden variety IT tomes under fair use.)

2. Here is the manual for Application Y (hard copy, of course.) Here is a word processor. Give me 3 paragraphs about how to use Application Y.

3. In these six bins are various old computer components. Most work, some don't. Here also is a working chassis, and a copy of Mandrake 8. Put together a file server. Move 3 gb of data from share xyz to your file server, and make it available to our test environment.

4. Here is our training / demo / test environment. Sitting at the desk over yonder is Eddie the Script Kiddie. Move the following OU objects from OU-A to various other OUs without letting Eddie in. (Each OU has its own firewall arrangement).

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Certs

by nc197 In reply to No one calls me about my ...

Hi TJD,

I have the same experience and the same frustrations. The best solution I have found is getting a cert, unforunately not much else holds weight like a cert. I have a Master's that doesn't count for anything...but you get a CCNA, CISSP, etc...makes the diff...

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Certs

by rush2112 In reply to Certs

I disagree that this is the case 100% of the time.

Certs show that you are capable of learning and taking tests, they do not show that you can actually apply the learned knowledge and "FIX BROKE STUFF" Majority of users say "It broke, you fix" regardless of whether it is a simple task or one that requires research and a team to resolve.

Show the experience was noted in several responses above.
Show your approach to resolving a problem, get busy coming up with life stories of past experiences where "YOU" worked at trouble or a problem and "YOU" were instrumental in resolving it.

Others have noted $$$, this is good too, show it where you can, "company saved XXX.XX dollars because of a new procedure I implemented etc..."

The resume is the KNOCK on the door.
Leave some things off, that you can tell tales at the interview (true ones), regarding your past experiences and what skills you used to peform those job functions.

Practice interviewing with others. Get it down COLD.

prepare for the "why should I Hire you" questions,
"Tell me a bit about yourself"
"what outside interests do you have"< this is time to mention you play softball as one reply noted.

I did not read through every reply, but I want to add that you may want to visit your local library and get some books on RESUMES, or the local bookstore. There are some expenses that are deductible for job hunting, check with your tax-preparer for details. That means you can buy some books and supplies to help you get a job that you may be able to write off, in whole or in some part.

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Some ideas

by PlacidAir In reply to No one calls me about my ...

Have someone who's resume IS getting a lot of response looks yours over and beat it up. Your resume tells an employer multitudes about you before you even walk in the door (IF you get to walk in the door). Are you methodical? (is it laid out and organized well?) Are you detail-oriented? (is everything spelled properly?) How are your communications skills? (grammar?) If it falls down on any of those points, you won't be considered seriously.

List your experience on a project-related and in a bullet-point focused manner. A big text blob of technical terms doesn't grab anyone's attention, and is not going to be clear to them. A layout along the lines of:

Server Administration (including, but not limited to):
o Installation of OS and server applications
o Application of security patches and upgrades
o Trouble-shooting/repair of communications issues

etc.....

Break it down for them -- they shouldn't have to, and won't, do it themselves.

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It will take time

by ScottComingThrough In reply to No one calls me about my ...

I started in IT approx. 2 years ago. Started with a company as their primary IT about 6 months after graduating with a Systems Analyst Programming diploma. Stayed with that company for about a year. At the 6 month mark I was told that they wanted all the little things that I did for others to be put back on them. "I don't want them using you as a crutch." Basically removing 1/2 of each days work being a "crutch" so I started looking for a new job. I felt that my skills were not being utilized, suggestions were being ignored, advice was asked and never heeded. It took a solid 6 months to find something. IT jobs can be few and far between... but it can be worth the wait. I absolutely Love! my new job. I am challenged daily and my advice and recommendations are actually reviewed and taken into consideration. Hold in there... keep your eyes & ears open and you'll find something.

Scott

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