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old HD in USB Box - vista asking for format

By kotchfam ·
Hi all,
After my computer died I went out and bought an external case like I've seen suggested here. The drive spins up, the computer recognizes it but when I double click on the drive its asking me to format it.
I want to get the old data off the drive.
Any suggestions for me?
I'm running vista.
Thanks,
Kelley

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re: old HD in USB Box - vista asking for format - still not working

by kotchfam In reply to Try this

Ok, I hooked it up to the laptop running XP. When I double click on the drive it asks me to format the drive.
The same thing Vista was asking me to do on the other system.
The box itself is vista compatible. Vista reads that the drive is there, it just wants me to format it before it will open it.
If I format the drive I will lose all the data right? Is there a work around to get the ghost info off there if I do format it?
I want the pictures and the music off this drive.
Thanks,
Kelley

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What was the result

by Jacky Howe In reply to re: old HD in USB Box - v ...

of the chkdsk was there any error messages.
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Write down all fixed Disk and CD/DVD drive letters so as not to delete them. DO NOT delete any of the fixed hard disk drives or CD/DVD optical drives registry values.
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1. Login with Administrative privileges.
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2. Disconnect all USB or FireWire storage devices.
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3. Open Registry Editor by typing regedt32 in the Run box and navigate to the following registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices
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4. Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices there will be registry keys with the name that resembles the format of \DosDevice\X: where X can be any alphabet letter which corresponding to your physical system drive letter.
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5. Delete all possible USB drives, FireWire drives and external drives which have a drive letter.
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<b>DO NOT delete any of the fixed Hard Disk Drives or CD/DVD optical drives registry values.</b>
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Exclude \DosDevice\A: which normally reserved for floppy disk drives.
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Shutdown and restart the PC with out any USB devices attached. Then connect your drive and see if you can access it.
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Long shot

by Jacky Howe In reply to What was the result

it can't be used with Vista.
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Partition Find & Mount
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http://findandmount.com/download/
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Are you sure that this drive is correctly jumpered?

by OH Smeg Moderator In reply to re: old HD in USB Box - v ...

Quite often a Jumper is not required in a NB but when you add a IDE HDD to an external Caddy you need to replace the jumper to set it to Master.

When there is No Jumper on a IDE HDD every Windows and quit a few Nix OS's see the drive as unformatted and want the drive formatted before they will attempt to read it. If you try to format the drive I don't think that the Format will actually work that is providing that the HDD is actually working.

If you suffered a HDD Failure in the old computer placing it into a External Enclosure will not make it work now.

Have you tested the HDD with the Makers Testing Utility as well?

You can find the HDD Makers Testing utility by looking here. Just click on the HDD Makers Name and you will be prompted where you want to download the Testing Utility to.

http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=287

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Well a couple of things first

by OH Smeg Moderator In reply to old HD in USB Box - vista ...

Depending on the type of HDD that you removed from a Dead Computer there are a couple of things you need to know before using it.

IDE Drives need to be set to Master not CS Cable Select or Slave in an USB Enclosure.

SATA Drives generally speaking Do Not need any Jumpers set unless this was a new SATA Drive and it's been fitted to a older model Enclosure then you may need to limit the Drive to the SATA 1 Standard.

Was the USB Enclosure you bought Vista Compatible? It needs to say Vista Compatible on the Box as some Chip Sets used in the Interface between the USB and HDD are not Vista Compatible.

Is the Power Adapter if supplied with the enclosure plugged in to both the Mains and the Enclosure properly?

If this is a 3.5 inch HDD it requires the use of a Power Adapter to work as USB only supplies 5 V DC not the 12 V DC required to run a 3.5 inch HDD.

If it is a 2.5 Inch HDD then you need to look at the size of the Drive and the USB Lead where it connects to the computer. This is a General Rule but it varies with the different HDD that have been made over the years the older Drives do not conform to this rule so you need to remember this. Any 2.5 Inch HDD under 80 Gig can be powered from 1 USB port so if you have a USB Lead with a Y Connector at the computer end you only need to use the USB Connector away from the end of the lead. The last USB Connector on the Y Lead is a Power Only Connector and doesn't transfer any Data through it.

If the HDD is old or larger that 80 GIG you need to use Both of the Y Connectors at the computer end of the USB Lead & plug them into different USB Ports. You Can Not use a USB Unpowered Hub Here or a PCMCIA Card to run one of these drives off you need to use 2 of the USB Sockets in the Computer to provide enough power to run these External HDD's. This is because a USB Port is limited to 500 Milli Amps Current and this isn't enough to run the Older Power Hungry NB Drives or those above 80 GIG Capacity.

If you didn't get a Y USB Connector Cable or a Power Adapter with the enclosure you need to replace the USB Lead with one with a Y Adapter on it's Computer End or purchase the Optional Power Adapter.

Now for the last bit depending on what was used previously on this HDD Vista may not be able to read it. This happens because Vista uses a different Security Protocol to Read Partition Information. If you are having an issue with the Partition Information and Vista being unable to read it you need to copy the Data off this HDD to something on a computer either running XP or use a Live Linux on your New computer and copy the Data off the Old HDD to the New HDD in the computer. You can get a Live Linux as a Cover Disc on a Linux Magazine at your Local Newsagent or download one of these Live Linux's.

http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php

if you have access to a computer running Windows XP in any form you can use this to copy the Data off this HDD and then plug it into the Vista Computer and Format it there. you can then copy the Data back to the External HDD if there isn't any form of Local Area Network Involved and then when the copy is finished transfer the Enclosure to the new computer and copy your data to this from the External Enclosure.

If there is a LAN involved you can copy the Data across the LAN to the new computer.

I hope that isn't too confusing.

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re: old HD in USB Box - vista asking for format

by kotchfam In reply to Well a couple of things f ...

I'll try hooking it up to my laptop that still runs XP. The old hard drive (about 3 years old) ran on XP so I'm hoping thats the issue.
I'll let you know how it goes!
All the other stuff checked out. :)

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Your Welcome <NT>

by OH Smeg Moderator In reply to re: old HD in USB Box - v ...

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