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On a Contract and having issues, need input.

By danielnicholson ·
I am an I.T. Professional and have a contract with a city school system. Things are are less than perect with the entire system suffering from gross mismanagement. The most recent incident involves an I.T. employee that was supposed to helping (hands on) with a roll out. He was given specific instruction of what his responsibilities were. In a total of 32 man hours (in which he honestly worked about 2.5 hours) I have lots of video of this person sleeping right in front of me when he should have been working, surfing the net, etc.

I brought this issue to the Director of IT, showed her the videos and basicly she was unresponsive.

What would you do?
exit the contract early? Go to the School Super?

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I'll get over it

by Tig2 In reply to Tiggy Wiggy!!!!! Why peo ...

Tiggy Wiggy???

I had the thought that there is a reason for the somnolence. From a managerial stand, discovering that could be the first step in solutioning the problem. Your post only confirms that.

A daily 3 hour **** up? Niiice! That had to be the ultimate situation! Don't think that I would survive it so can only say better you than me!

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by TechExec2 In reply to Oh here is the deal...

"but I got the felling she did not appreciate me bring this to her attention."

This observation tells you all you need to know about this situation.

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Try studying some law

by Oz_Media In reply to Do you have a warrant...

You obviously haven't the foggiest clue what you are talking about.

"in an area where they have the presumption of privacy.

If you presume you have a right to ANY privacy, outside of the washroom, while you are at work, you are sadly mistaken.

Violating his privacy? You have to be kidding!? Please show me exactly where such an area of presumed privacy would be at your place of employment. You'll find that the washroom is abotu the ONLY place you are entitled to privacy at work. You can be spied on, have your email read and tracked, have your calls monitored etc. without ANY possible chance of claiming your privacy was invaded.

WOW, you really need to learn the law before you start to state it. I bet you are yet another one who feels the first ammendment means you are free to say what you want, when you want, wherever you want, right?

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Maybe in Oz...

by DeleteMyStuff In reply to Try studying some law

The <i>fourth amendment</i>, not the first amendment deals with the reasonable expectation of privacy, but <b>The Constitution</b> applies only to us Americans, not to those from "Oz" as you say.<br/><br/>
Maybe you blokes in Oz stomp all over the rights of others, but I DO INDEED work with Law Enforcement officers in a government office, and we deal with exactly this issue. In this country (America, land of free, home of the brave) <u>you are considered an unwashed, rude ditz from down under</u>.<br/><br/>
You might want to read section titled "What is Private in the Workplace?" which cites caselaw regarding employees' private offices and their reasonable expectation of privacy. Use google ...I'm sure you'll find many others.<br/><br/>
As for what matters in "Oz", your women go for anything that grabs their behind with one hand while swilling some kind of national pig slop they call beer with the other so it's little wonder you're so popular at the pub. Your previous post (which I'm sure you now wish you could take back) proves you to be little more than a drunken sot without the self discipline to even work a full day without getting blotto.<br/><br/>
Again, I say, in MY country we did away with the three martini lunch long ago, and we frown on drunkeness, rudeness and several of the other boorish characteristics you're broadcasting from your hemisphere.<br/><br/>This is a professional forum and you obviously have nothing constructive to add to this discussion. You would apparently have no problem finding a local pub in which to pick a fight once you're legless. You don't need to come half way around the world to civilization to pick one.<br/><br/>
After you get done with your "daily 3 hour ****-up" why don't you bound off to the bush, boff a kangaroo and then brush up on your AMERICAN case law before you come back to your computer for a battle of wits. Never go to a gun fight carrying only a knife.<br/><br/>
<b>Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus et tu non gradus **** rodentum es! Quod minimum specimen in te ingenii? Dixi.</b>
<i>Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries and you are not Worth A Rats ***! What microscopic evidence of wit can be found in you? I have spoken. I will say no more on the matter, and no one else may speak further.</i><br/><br/>
Regards bloke,<br/><br/>

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Now that REALLY made you look stupid.

by Oz_Media In reply to Maybe in Oz...

Down under? What, under as in Canada or England?

I am actually have studied a LOT of corporate law, I have two corporate attorneys in the family, my brother's firm is the counsel for some of North Americas's largest corporations. I work in the music and enterainment industry IN AMERICA and have spent more than enough time in US courtrooms to se ehow your three ring circus operates.

If you actualy have the idea that your employer does not have a right to monitor use of the equipment they own and pay you to operate on their time, you are sadly mistaken. I have worked with the CRTC and FCC with regards to business telecom, email and chat privacy, I have sat in on countless cases of privacy invasion, wrongful dismissal due to abuse or misuse of corporate property etc. I am not about to learn anything from some clown of a Yankee with the equivalent of a grade 3 education (anywhere else in the world), that claims he is knowledgable on a subject because his friends are pigs?! Your only comment was not to prove your point but to go on and on about how much Australians drink for lunch, whlie your generalization shows a simply clueless opinion and proves you haven't been outside of your littel corner of redkneck America in the 17 years you've been alive.

So while you suggest I am a **** tank Auatrlian and have no idea what US law is, you couldnt' be more mistaken.

Your closing quip, which I guess you feel makes you appear somewhat intelligent, starts out with a humorous retort from a British Comedy Troupe that I grew up laughing with(in my actual country of citizenship), not some mouth-breathing, lackwit American like yourself or what Americans consider humour, Rosanne, America's Funniest Home Videos etc. The only clever programming you have ever stolen was teh endless line of British Sitcom pinoffs that you so gladly feel are American creations. You live in a country known for inventing little or nothing but utilizing teh inventions of others while claiming they are American, a coutry that relies on the world for it's resources as it has no idea how to manage the needs of the gluttonous pigs that exist within its borders. Your country is the laughing stock of the world, the people are the brunt of all jokes, uneducated, blindly led by government, raised on BS history, but you know all this becauis eyou have a friend that's been to Hawaii, right?

While you actually try to make comments that seemingly make you appear clever, you were wrong in all your assertions; including the fact that I was referring to the fourth ammendment and not the first. I was comparing you to the other shoe-gazing, moronic Americans of far below average intelligence, that actually believe the right to free speech means you can speak freely when and where you want to.

As for your pig friends, so what; I know many too, very corrupt and stupid ones too. I have seen them torn to pieces one at a time in courtrooms for decades now as their misguided conclusions of law appliction are proven wrong.

Go back to the playground and try your BS with the children who may see you as clever, it sure won't be here:

Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time. I wave my private parts at your aunties, you empty headed animal food trough water. I unclog my nose at you, you and all your knees bent running around. Goi and boil your bottom, you wiper of other people's bottoms.

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My Apology...

by DeleteMyStuff In reply to Try studying some law

Dear Oz_Media,<br/><br/>
I noticed from your profile that you are from "Snowy Canada Brrrrr!, BC" and not from "Oz", or Australia as I incorrectly assumed from your use of colloquialisms associated with that country. Please accept my apology for having made such a mistake. And many apologies to Australians for having associated you with them, although I'll let the part about swilling pig slop stand. <br/><br/>
To rectify this situation in my previous post, please replace the word "Oz" with "Canada", and all references to the Southern hemisphere and "down under" to "up North in the land of frozen Moose turds for brains".<br/><br/>
Also, please check out YOUR Official Commissioner's Directive from YOUR Correctional Service Canada entitled <b>"AUTHORITY FOR AND USE OF VIDEO SURVEILLANCE IN SUPPORT OF INVESTIGATIONS" dated 2005-08-08.</b> The URI is <br/><br/>
<b>POLICY REQUIREMENTS</b><br/><br/>
14. Video surveillance shall not be used where individuals have a reasonable expectation of privacy (e.g. a private office, a change room or a single office in an open office environment).
Further, the words of your own Canadian Supreme Court are plastered everywhere on the Internet:<br/><br/>
see from the Library of your Parliment.
Thus, in Grant [R. v. Grant (1993) 84 C.C.C. (3d) 173 (S.C.C.)], the Supreme Court of Canada indicated that warrantless searches
must be limited to situations in which exigent circumstances render obtaining a warrant impractical.
Although the case did not concern the search of a motor vehicle, the Court stated the following:<br/><br/>
Exigent circumstances will often be created by the presence of
narcotics on a moving conveyance such as a <u>motor vehicle, a water
vessel or aircraft. However, I do not favour a blanket exception for this
species of private property. Such an exception does exist under the
American Constitution.</u> In Rao, supra, Martin J.A. pointed out the
justification for the American exception was that vehicles, vessels and
aircraft may move away quickly and frustrate an investigation. While I
accept this fact, I must also be mindful of the fact that <b>this court has
recognized the existence of an expectation of privacy in respect of
motor vehicles, albeit on a lower scale than that which exists in
relation to a dwelling or a private office?</b><br/><br/>
Thus, your Canadian Supreme Court has an even stricter standard for warrantless searches than does the American government.
I guess your protecting your drug hustlers is a worthy economic pursuit ...every bit as worthy as spending half of every work day rotting your brain at the pub with your buds, eh? Your words, not mine.
Regards again,

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I hope you have your asbestos underwear on

by Kiltie In reply to My Apology...

'Cos you are about to get FLAMED big time.

Your apology doesn't wash, sure, you noticed the location mistake, but you didn't apologise for your personal attack, that compounds your problem.

However, it may be the case, that your posts are so over the top that nobody will feel bothered to slap you.

I certainly don't feel like it (waste of my time), but some may not feel so shy.

Good luck, mate, make sure your insurance premiums are up to date.

EDIT: I am selling ringside seats around the arena, popcorn and soda available (beer if I am bribed)

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Decent Beer with a minimum of 8% Alcohol

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to I hope you have your asbe ...

Or that swill that is served as beer in the US at 2% Alcohol?

It's an important question as I'll drink one and not be bothered to wash the bottom of a lake with the other. :)


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7.5% minumum

by Kiltie In reply to Decent Beer with a minimu ...

In Scotland that's the strongest Cider I can get, but I was weaned on the stuff, called Scrumpy, before I could walk.

I am originally from Kernow aka Cornwall, but very few Brits know about the.....

cue for our National anthem Guys!!!!!

A good sword and a trusty hand!
A merry heart and true!
King James's men shall understand
What Cornish lads can do!

And have they fixed the where and when?
And shall Trelawny die?
Here's twenty thousand Cornish men
Will know the reason why!

And shall Trelawny live?
And shall Trelawny die?
Here's twenty thousand Cornish men
Will know the reason why!

Out spake their Captain brave and bold:
A merry wight was he:
'If London Tower were Michael's hold,
We'd set Trelawny free!

'We'll cross the Tamar, land to land:
The Severn is no stay:
With "one and all," and hand in hand;
And who shall bid us nay?

And shall Trelawny live? , etc.

'And when we come to London Wall,
A pleasant sight to view,
Come forth! come forth! ye cowards all:
Here's men as good as you.

'Trelawny he's in keep and hold;
Trelawny he may die:
But twenty thousand Cornish bold
Will know the reason why!'

note: It is the Official National Anthem of Cornwall, the SW peninsula of England. Cornwall has it's own language, a Gaelic one, officially classified as dead, however there are a surprising group of nationalists there.

If it wasn't for about 5 miles, the river Tamar might almost sever Kernow from the mainland!!!

(River Tamar you ask? Where did the Founding Fathers set sail from?
The mouth of that river)


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by Oz_Media In reply to 7.5% minumum

Ventnor, IOW for me. Not so far off though, damn the Cornish pasties are grand! Not thise little teeny pie things they pass of as Cornish Pasties here though, but the real thick buggers with the crust gripper so you don't eat lead (or was it tin) from the mines.

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