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Once in a while

By santeewelding ·
I encounter a one who has no clue to computer security. This, though they are involved increasingly and critically in important social, financial, and other ways.

I am not asking about standard technical arrangements. I am asking in my meager understanding of it all for how to lay it out in order to bring them along.

What I need from you is how to slam them up against a wall.

Like, saying, you are, "A babe in the wood. You are such a babe, that what I tell you will go over your head, and you not caring or knowing."

Further, something on the order of, "I am not your keeper."

Trouble is, I am. So are you.

How do you do it? How do you do it in your surreptitious way, and remain true and effective?

Could be said, don't you think, about a whole lot in life -- particularly to the younger, and, some older.

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I know you do.

by seanferd In reply to Answer to your return

So do I. On one machine, with intent.

Not specifically computer-related
If you aren't grokking it in general, then, yeah...

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"Admin account for self"

by santeewelding In reply to I know you do.

Meant more than the one way.

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by seanferd In reply to "Admin account for self"

am I not startled?

I have suspected you all along.

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I am outed

by santeewelding In reply to Why

Through no devise, I hope, of my own.


"s" for "c"

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Well, your very presence

by seanferd In reply to I am outed

is your own, is it not? I certainly hope so. It is, as per my estimation.

This is getting just a bit recursive, on my end, anyway.

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Relate to user on his/her level

by ron.dondelinger In reply to Once in a while

Approach this issue as would a teacher with a student. I use the generalized analogy of the computer as the user's house, which makes it easier for the user to grasp:

1. When the computer is connected to the network or internet, it is like like opening the front door of your house and leaving the door open. Any curious individual walking or driving by can stop and take a peek inside.

2. Practicing no safeguards (ie Antivirus, Firewall) is like announcing to anyone in earshot "Well, I'm leaving my house unattended!" Someone can walk right in and help themselves to whatever possessions (personal or financial data) they can lay hands on. If they are clever, you won't even know that you had an uninvited guest. Or, you may get the malcontent who derives pleasure from completely trashing your hard drive.

3. Practicing safeguards is like posting a doorman at the front door. No one gets in without clearance.

4. Practice viligence!

* Out-of-date AV definitions are a sleeping doorman.
* Treat unsolicited emails with the same guarded suspicion as you would unsolicited postal mail or telephone calls.
* Handle online transactions as you would in person: Read the fine print, and know and trust with whom you are dealing.

Enlighten the user to the various unfortunate evils that exist, without coming across as condescending, and impart (much of) the ownership of the issue onto the user.

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Excellent analogy

by santeewelding In reply to Relate to user on his/her ...

Might not work with someone like my ex, though, who upon our coming to the locked, public-facing door of her office suite, and seeing the doorknob nearly twisted off, remarked that it must have been the UPS man, trying it too hard.

Thing is, she was serious.

Thing was, I rolled my eyes heavenward.

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'twas Nature calling?

by ron.dondelinger In reply to Excellent analogy

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Perchance the UPS man had to go something serious, and no crummy door knob was gonna get between him and a bathroom and completing his business. Well, okay, on this occasion it did.

With no more information to go on, I'm gonna suggest the door knob failed due to a combination of metal fatigue and stress and/or shear forces. :)

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And that's when it all started...

by SmartAceW0LF In reply to Excellent analogy

You know what "it" is.

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That kind of reminds me of a time

by OH Smeg Moderator In reply to Excellent analogy

When I walked into a warehouse and found the back door hacked to bits with a chain saw and the store room completely empty.

Now if only I had not of said a few days previously when you walk in and find the entire place empty you can then start thinking that I have stolen something but in the mean time there isn't anything worth my while to steal here.


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