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By jardinier ·
If it is not yet official, can we start with the assumption that Hillary will run with Obama. If they win government, how do you think this will affect America?

Incidentally the third (but far from insignificant) member of the COW will start withdrawing its troops from Iraq. I am not sure of the schedule but our PM Kevin Rudd has declared that they have done all they can do.

A Labor PM would never have sent Australian troops to Iraq in the first place.

Do you think a Democrat Government in the USA would have instigated the invasion?

Several questions, lots of opinions sought.

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re: Maybe the complainers seem to blend together after a while

by DanLM In reply to and jck, if you read one ...

Truthfully, I think I'm starting to have real issues reading. I have 20/200 vision with my glass's on. I can't see close up with them, so I read with my glass's off.

I've found me making more and more of these stupid mistakes here. Missing things in a post I'm reading. Thinking I seen something.

I don't drink, I don't do drugs. I don't stay up late. I just had my glass's replaced, but I'm wondering if its time I started moving away from posting because I'm just not seeing everything.

No, it's not a whine. I could care less if people don't like me. I could care less if people don't agree with me. But it bugs the crap out of me that I am making statements lately on things I completely missed or missread. Rushed because of work??? Bad eye site? Hopefully, I'm not so pig headed in my oppinion that I don't read everything.

Again delbert, I'm sorry for seeing something that wasn't there.

Dan

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Who did I vote for?

by jck In reply to and jck, if you read one ...

You mean in 2000?

I voted for Libertarian Harry Browne :)

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btw...about vision, DanLM

by jck In reply to and jck, if you read one ...

dunno your particular case.

but if you haven't already and it might help...look at bitoric lenses. that's what i had to get. they couldn't correct my vision anymore with glasses.

hope you can get things improved.

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A funny thing about intelligence

by DelbertPGH In reply to Chuckle, if you voted Ker ...

I'm sure you know and I know plenty of smart people who have dumb ideas. Being smart doesn't save you from thinking stupid, and being slow doesn't mean you're never right. I believe GWB is more in the first category. You have incorrectly interpreted what I wrote about GWB; I never said he was actually dumb, but was (remember the ads for Beatlemania, the Broadway show?) an incredible simulation. Having a 120 I.Q. puts him in the top 5% of the population, as far as raw, underutilized intelligence goes. I don't think anybody could accuse him of being politically dumb; he's crafty, he's great on interpersonal relations; he knows that business. Governance is another issue. He never ran a successful business, and he's a bust at running the country.

He couldn't reason his way out of a paper bag, not if you wrote "Iraq" on the inside of it. That's his problem, and now it's our problem.

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Who are you talking about?

by maxwell edison In reply to A funny thing about intel ...

Having a 120 I.Q. puts him in the top 5% of the population, as far as raw, underutilized intelligence goes. I don't think anybody could accuse him of being politically dumb; he's crafty, he's great on interpersonal relations; he knows that business. Governance is another issue. He never ran a successful business, and he's a bust at running the country.

George W. Bush?
Bill Clinton?
John Kerry?
Ted Kennedy?
Barack Obama?
???????????

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You choose, Max

by NickNielsen In reply to Who are you talking about ...

From what I know, they all qualify. Although, given the context, I believe the subject is the current occupant of the White House.

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Odds of Hilary running as independent?

by jdclyde In reply to Obama won't take Hillary, ...

If she isn't given the VP slot, what do you think the odds are she won't just walk away from this?

I don't think Obama is going to have a lot of choice, and based upon the sound clips this morning of him talking about her favorably, I do think this "unholy alliance" will happen, now. I wouldn't have believed it two months ago.

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Nope, no independent run, and no VP slot. No.

by DelbertPGH In reply to Odds of Hilary running as ...

Hillary can't run without the Democratic party. She's not a Ron Paul, or a Bob Barr, or a Ralph Nader who runs for principle in the face of sure defeat. She runs to win. As an independent she would be at best a Ross Perot. Nope, she's interested in real power, and will only take real chances for it.

Obama has to kiss up to Hillary, to unify the party for the election. He can't brush off all those women and Royal Crown-drinking white men who backed her. I think he'd be crazy to take her on as VP, with her hillbilly husband talking like he was President again and presenting a new embarassment every month. Very few of her most ardent supporters would go for McCain, though, so he's got her feminist backers, once he says the right things and they cool off.

I don't believe that taking one of the most hated women in America onto his ticket would win Obama net votes. Plus, she's a tiger, and he couldn't turn his back on her, or ever be weak around her. It would be a bad administration, when the V.P. was waiting for an opportunity to devour the President. He'd better pick somebody he can trust.

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As I said in another discussion about this topic

by jdclyde In reply to Nope, no independent run, ...

I think we will not see the mass turn out we did last time. A lot of people from both sides are just going to sit it out.

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Obama + Hillary

by NotSoChiGuy In reply to Nope, no independent run, ...

= Hillary becoming president within 2 years; I have no doubt.

Actually, Obama might be wise to offer her the Secretary of State position, if anything. It seems to be a more important position in the grand scheme of things (would feed her ego...and faced with the threat of having her visit their country, and unleashing her husband upon their fair maidens, I'm sure some opposing nations would immediately kowtow to the US' demands), and undercutting Obama wouldn't yield a tangible gain (except in 2012, maybe) to her or her supporters.

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