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Outsourcing and Racism

By injun_cowboy ·
I think the current IT outsourcing howl has to do with a form of racism. Yes, that's what it it. Tell you why. 'Cos it's jobs going to places like India, Mexico & China. No one cried foul when techie jobs went to the factories set up in Good Ol' Ireland, or Poland, or Germany or Holland or England. No sir! Those guys are OK. C'mon folks, you know it!

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Well being Canadian

by Oz_Media In reply to What a bunch of whiners!

When you say:
"Anyone with a University Computer Science degree has NO problems finding excellent employment!"

I think you are giving us too much credit, a pulse and a few fingers will get you employed in IT in Canada. I was a full time admin long before looking for certs, even that was only because the employer paid for it.

I kno some VERY successful coders that run a powerful key encryption company. NONE of them have ANY Unoversity experience, but can write Python better than I write my name. They are taking C++ coders down everywhere.

Unions are pretty pissed at US outsourcing 50 jobs to US firms for the new Victoria Arena. They are claiming a shortage of unemployed labourers and certified tradesmen in BC because they are all working. Fort St. John is also BEGGING for people to move in with ANY experience. They have a massive need to fill, good money and everything but I just moved to the Island so I'm staying put.

For any US citizens looking for work, move here, earn more money and work is EVERYWHERE!

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No way...

by mrbill- In reply to Well being Canadian

My sister lives in Ontario, if I moved to Canada I could never live it down. I would love to visit the NW someday, beautiful country.

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by Oz_Media In reply to No way...

well I wouldn't move to Ontario either. I lived in the Maritimes for a year or so but too much snow. Toronto's too snowy, Montreal and Alberta are snowy.

The west coast of BC, we get drizzle and rain but for the month of March so far it has been sunny almost everyday.

Form working and travelling across Canada, there is no way I would live anywhere other than the BC West Coast, it is unsurpassed for beauty and scenery.

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A little off topic... but what the heck!

by bwallan In reply to Ahhhh

Outsourcing to Canadian weather... that's quite a stretch!

But while we're on the topic, you can have Victoria and the west coast... too much drizzle and not enough snow for good skiing. But not bad salmon fishing and hiking!

I'll stay in Alberta with good skiing six months of the year (and just mediocre skiing for the other six months). I also prefer the lower tax rates and lack of provincial sales tax. And the last 32 years have been great for IT consulting!


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by Oz_Media In reply to A little off topic... but ...

Alberta is my second fav place in Canada. I just got back from a meeting in Jasper and it is breathtaking. I have stayed in revelstoke for almost a year before while driving truck, I saw a LOT of rogers Pass and Alta, the Rockies are truly stunning as they loom over you and you can barely see the tops from the highways.

BUT....we have Whistler, great skiing season. The Isaldn we have Mt QWashington whic also has a good season. When I lived in Rossland in the interior we had almost never ending skiing at Red Mountain, where the Canadian Ski team used to train before Whistler/Blackcombe.

Between BC and Alberta, it's a tough choice but I've always preferred to lived on islands or the coast, as I like to sail, kayak etc. Me needs me water.

I love visiting Alberta but the stuff just isn't as cheap as it used to be, private liquor stores are a nice touch but stuff like smokes and booze isn't that much cheaper anymore. They just lump the prices and up the margins to meet our taxes.
Not like it used to be, I'd drive to Banff or Calgary for a couple of cartons of smokes and some good Scotch, it just doesn't pay anymore though as it is not that much cheaper these days.

You still have the 25 packs of smokes though, I give you kudos for that and for having a beuatiful province. Damn, us Western Canadian's got it good don't we?!?!?

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All but for one item...

by bwallan In reply to Agreed

We've still got an eastern government...

But what the hey, the sun is shining, the snow is melting and there's lots of work to keep you busy!

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We have a government??

by Oz_Media In reply to Agreed

No kidding? I line the Victooria Harbour and Parliment Buildings but that's just for show.

I didn't realize we actually had a government in Canada. You'd think we'd hear about it somewow.

Oh well who cares, I going camping. :-)

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by TopesBlues In reply to Outsourcing and Racism

That?s absolutely ridiculous. The reason people are upset now is that a lot of American workers have lost there jobs. If tech jobs moved overseas to Germany ect. It must not have taken many jobs because there wasn?t a shortage of IT jobs until recently. If all the tech jobs moved to Germany and it displaced a large amount of workers, people would be just as pissed. The only thing not surprising is someone screaming racism!!!

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I think

by Oz_Media In reply to Ridiculous

The point he was trying to make, is if you are out of work, FIND SOME. I have seen people out of work for two or three years while complaining there's no work!?!

You may not find realted IT work, but you can always fid work, outsourcing is a lazy way of complaining about unemployment. If you want to stay in the industry THAT bad (I don't know HY someone would fight to stay in IT), you can move, there's LOTS of IT work around if you are so stumped in your own neighbourhood.

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Take into consideration

by sue.ritter In reply to Outsourcing and Racism

Outsourcing is not the only problem. In the IS department of the company I work at they just laid off a whole bunch of people and then replaced them with "in" office workers but they are consultants from India and are not citizens of the US. So they fired people to bring in people from another country. I know that's no the same thing as outsourcing but what would it be called? This trend scares me more because if you are in IT you can always find some job that is hands on and can't be outsourced but what do you do if they bring the outsourced jobs in office. Do you know what I mean?

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