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Please Don't Feed the Wildlife

By maxwell edison ·
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Any Park Ranger will tell us to refrain from feeding the wildlife, lest they become dependent on the handouts.

Food Stamps in America are being handed out at record levels.

I guess people aren't as smart (or as important) as wildlife.

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Social Security and Medicare are NOT entitlements

by NickNielsen In reply to We. Are. Not. Broke.

You've been paying FICA & Medicare premiums, I've been paying them, even Max has been paying them. If they are "entitlements", it's because, having paid into them, we're entitled to receive from them.

The problem is not that "we're broke", the problem is that we don't want to pay for what we get from government.

The federal government's share of GDP in 2010 was 14.9%, 4.5 points lower than its postwar average of 18.5%. The CBO projects that share to drop to 14.8% for 2011.

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The lunacy of your argument

by maxwell edison In reply to We. Are. Not. Broke.

I'm not making an argument for making war just in order to create jobs (a component of Eisenhower's Military Industrial Complex warning - which he didn't really heed himself, by the way), but Nick's assertion that spending money on infrastructure projects would create jobs, while totally ignoring the fact that reduced spending on war would actually cost jobs, doesn't make any sense at all. At best, it's robbing Peter to pay Paul (taking Peter's job away, giving it to Paul). You might make the argument that Paul deserves the spending more than Peter, but it renders your logic ....... well, it renders it illogical.

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It's only illogical

by NickNielsen In reply to We. Are. Not. Broke.

If you've allowed yourself to believe the idiocy that government cannot create jobs.

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It's obvious that Nick did not comprehend what I wrote.

by maxwell edison In reply to We. Are. Not. Broke.

Regarding your comment, ... stop spending on war, start spending on infrastructure (which would, you said, create jobs)", I said, all that's doing, at best, is taking one job for the purpose of creating another.

Again, you evaded what I really said, and strung up something that I did not say to argue against. Typical for someone without a legitimate rebuttal.

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Maybe SS/Medicare aren't entitlements in the pure sense

by AV . In reply to We. Are. Not. Broke.

We do pay into them, but when the program was designed, it wasn't meant to sustain people for 20 or 30 years. Life expectancies today are much greater than in the past. There were more people paying into the system in the past as well. This has caused a shortfall in our obligations and its only going to get worse if they don't find a way to fix the program.

AV

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$550 billion more

by aidemzo_adanac In reply to We. Are. Not. Broke.

Wouldn't the returning solders, without a war to fight ,simply add many more thousands of people to the unemployed? Of course they are employABLE and would be offered preference over the non-enlisted employment seekers, but what about an engineering firm that has 30 army engineers applying for the same job? More unemployed, more living on the government handouts (instead of fighting for a paycheck). It seems that it wouldn't help anyone (financially) to bring them all home, just saying...! What about the drug use from returning soldiers who would find it hard to be gainfully employed again, have a really hard time adjusting to civilian life, turn to drugs because they are living in 8-mile etc.? Would the prisons not fill with tens of thousands of soldiers without hope or new direction? I'm not knocking soldiers for a split second, I tip my hat to anyone who fights for their nation, even those who do so feeling it's not the right reason to fight. However, if you can't keep your existing population employed, and it's caused a SERIOUS financial issue for the nation (just as many other nations are found in the same boat) how do you expect to deal with tens of thousands more returning home and seeking a future? I think your numbers need some more consideration before being able to show such a conclusive solution.

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Yeah that is always a bit lost on me too

by aidemzo_adanac In reply to We. Are. Not. Broke.

"We're supposed to be the greatest country in the world, but we don't look like it."

Um, yeah. At least reality has set in for you guys now. Sorry it was at the cost of home, marriages and livelihoods but that's what it usually takes when countries slowly start to lose their place.

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You can call it what you like, Max

by NickNielsen In reply to We. Are. Not. Broke.

I think it's illogical to complain about the government keeping people from starving, which is what food stamps does, while ignoring that the same government spends hundreds of billions of dollars to obtain and maintain the capability to destroy other countries, even the world, in the name of "national security".

Either it's about all the spending or it's not about the spending at all.

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What else would you spend it on?

by aidemzo_adanac In reply to Why are we spending money ...

If America didn't spend money on war, what the heck would they do with it? Being at war is all the US government knows, think of the downtrodden folk growing up in the many war torn countries around the world, only difference is it's THERE and not on your own land. All today's youth has known is their country at war. Thankfully it's not on your own doorstep/my back fence, but that's how they excuse fighting somewhere else, 'stop 'em before they come here'. I guess the Japanese in WWII scared the US government enough that they'd rather pay to fight in other nations than face defending their own shores...which didn't work so great in Hawaii, lesson learned, 'fight THERE, not HERE'.

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Seriously?!

by AV . In reply to What else would you spend ...

Where do I start! We should be rebuilding our infrastructure in this country from top to bottom, partnering with private enterprise, of course. We're supposed to be the greatest country in the world, but we don't look like it. The roads, the bridges, the rail system are all falling apart.

Where's our Keystone Pipeline? Maybe we should even consider an aquaduct system to help relieve drought-stricken areas of our country.

I can think of lots of better uses for the money than war and nation building in areas like Afghanistan where they just **** up everything we build anyway.

AV

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