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President Obama sells access to the White House

By maxwell edison ·
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Fix the link.

http / freebeacon. com/chuck- todd-on-ofa-fundraising-this-just-looks- bad/

"Looks bad" my a$$. How about criminal?

"This just looks bad - it looks like the White House is selling access, Todd said Monday. It's the definition of selling access. If you believe money has a strangle hold over the entire political system this is ceding the moral high ground.

Hey Chuck! Apply the quack test. If it quacks like a duck, it's a friggin' duck! If it "looks like Obama is selling access", he's SELLING ACCESS!

Go ahead, all you Obama Kool Aide drinkers. Try to justify it by saying everybody does it.

P.S. I laugh - and am totally surprised - that the story is from MSNBC, and not FOX News!

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What is it you can't believe?

by AnsuGisalas In reply to So far, the score is:

That most people don't bother taking your bait? Or that some people bothered to bite, just to see if you had something worthwhile for a change?
Actually, I just answered my own question, I guess.

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What would you like the score to be?

by CharlieSpencer In reply to So far, the score is:

I'm one of those unknown number who originally decided to not comment. My reason? You take all the fun out of your discussions.

I don't know what your goal was in starting this topic. You expressed your outrage; were you looking for anything besides total agreement? If not, why do you expect opposing responses when you started name calling ("Kool Aide drinkers") before anyone replied?

You denigrate the few responses you've received to date ("ignorant", "hypocritical and ignorant"). You seem to think the nationality of the responders is important, although you're well aware this is an international forum. You toss out judgmental comments ("I shake my head in disbelief."); I doubt anyone expected to get 'scored'. As to "silly, meaningless, and nonsensical", this is the Water Cooler, remember?

What do you expect when you create such a hostile environment? Geez, it's an IT site; do you really expect effective, reasoned, researched political debate here?

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Let me explain a couple of things

by maxwell edison In reply to What would you like the s ...

While this is indeed an International forum, the issues I'm interested in discussing are not International issues. If you disagree, then we have a different "world view", in which case, that's where the discussion should go.

Moreover, while it may not be offensive to hear (read) opinions from non-Americans, It's extremely offensive to be bombarded with their obvious agenda for America. I don't have an agenda for Finland, for example, and I'll be damned if I'll let some jerk from Finland try to advance his agenda on me. Again, if you see it differently, it goes to that "world view" thing.

I'll also admit this: The time for playing nice-nice with those who are, in my opinion, advancing an agenda that will be destructive to my country and its future, is over. And I find it extremely disturbing that you choose to defend them, while you leave Lady Liberty defenseless (in these forums).

Am I abrasive at times? You're damned right I am. Do I know it? You're damned right I do. To paraphrase some guy in a movie, I'm mad as ****, and I'm not taking it anymore. And to paraphrase one of my favorite presidents, If you can't stand the heat, get the **** out of the kitchen!

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by AnsuGisalas In reply to Let me explain a couple o ...

More like jerk-wad. Wanna know why?
Because you're not on the field yourself. You attack others without true interaction, that's boring and (considering the futility of your attacks) stupid.

Your arguments only matter to the extent that you make people care about how you feel. And you can't make people care about that without engaging them, forming a mutual respect.
You don't get no respect because you haven't earned it.
What you used to have, you squandered over the last year or so (maybe more) of stand-offish negativity.

Don't be such a sourpuss. I've told you a billion times already, if the stuff you want to see here isn't here, make it yourself. That's a positive and respectable attitude.

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So what is it you disbelieve?

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Let me explain a couple o ...

That you get international responses? That so few people opt to enter your kitchen?

What did you expect when you started this discussion? What was your goal?

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What is it I "disbelieve"? What was my goal?

by maxwell edison In reply to So what is it you disbeli ...

I guess I'm living in some la-la land where people can actually admit they were mistaken about something or someone. ****, I've done it. But I guess I give others too much credit.

As only one example (of many). Go back to my 2007 and 2008 discussions in which I predicted the Democratic Party nominee (HC or BO) WOULD NOT close Guantanamo Bay, even though that was a HUGE issue during the election, etc. Barack Obama PROMISED to close GB in his first year. I said, no he won't.

I have no need whatsoever for people to pat me on the back for being right, but for Petes sake. I was criticized THEN for taking the position I was taking, and Im being criticized now for simply pointing out I was not wrong.

Barack Obama IS NOT who people thought he was, and the idiots who would not listen to reasonable and rational arguments years ago, are in denial today.

But go ahead. I guess I deserve all the criticism you're handing me just for pointing out the obvious.

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I'm not criticizing your message.

by CharlieSpencer In reply to What is it I "disbelieve" ...

I'm criticizing your delivery of it, especially in conjunction with your disbelief in the responses you've received (or not received). You acknowledged that some readers have reasons they didn't respond; I offered mine.

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the issues I'm interested in discussing are not International issues

by aidemzo_adanac In reply to Let me explain a couple o ...

Can you share that with your government too?

Why would you start a rant and then complain about the input and from whom?

To paraphrase one of your favorite presidents;
"If you can't stand the heat, get the **** out of the kitchen!"

Americans want to control the world around they feel unsafe of course, has nothing to do with perishing without the world around them.

Americans expect other nations to follow what THEY feel democracy should be.

Americans expect the world to cowtow to their political agenda and threaten war for opposers.

And yet, US politics is nobody's business but Americas?

When you (America) professed to be a global leader (of what I am still unsure), when American political moves effect the world around them, in a global economy, in 2013 where there are no borders, how can you possibly even hope that all you will see if Americans who agree with you, when posting in an international forum full of people who support different governmental systems?

Give your head a shake, Max! Get real, for once.

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You missed one

by aidemzo_adanac In reply to So far, the score is:

One, over the top, sensationalist who takes political commentary and focuses on it as fact without a slant (American)

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Hold the Press:- Make a Donation. Get Access.

by drowningnotwaving In reply to President Obama sells acc ...

A slolw news day?


From the nation that singlehandedly invented the modern political donation process?

( ... possibly by re-inventing a process tried and true for the last, what, many thousands of years across the entire world ?? )

Seriously, what is the issue?

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