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    Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

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    by charliespencer ·

    Besides mudpuppy and I, is anyone else having problems viewing TR with FF?

    +Clicking Edit, Reply, or Flag results in a spinning icon beside the link but the requested text boxes never open. They can be opened successfully if right-clicked and opened in a new tab.

    +If viewing in ‘Collapsed’ mode, clicking a post title does not open the post. Using the Left and Right cursor keys will move through the posts, until you forget and click on a title; then they stop expanding the posts.

    I started seeing these problems last week. I believe that’s when FF updated from v17 to v18. I’ve cleared the cache and dumped my cookies ( 🙂 ) to no effect. I’m having the same problems on FF at home, but not in IE.

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    • #2426740

      Yup. Me too…

      by cmiller5400 ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      Reply is just spinning, didn’t want to flag your post… 😀 FF 18 as well.

    • #2426739

      I got 17.0.1 and its working

      by slayer_ ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      I guess you have to downgrade.
      I actually avoid upgrading firefox these days, they only seem to add bugs, never remove any.

    • #2426737

      Here are good instructions for downgrading FF 18 to 17

      by charliespencer ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/946956

      and go to the post by jcanth. Rolling back to 17.0.1 has fixed the problems I described above.

    • #2434986
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      Downgrade fixed issue?

      by Tammy.Cavadias ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      I haven’t upgraded to 18 yet.. and from the sounds of it..not something I want to do?

      -Tammy [_]3

      • #2434966

        Yep.

        by charliespencer ·

        In reply to Downgrade fixed issue?

        I wouldn’t upgrade yet. If there are problems viewing TR, there are probably problems viewing other sites.

    • #2434829

      Interesting issue. A couple of days ago I started having issues with TR in

      by deadly ernest ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      that replies at Q&A and new discussions wouldn’t post. I’d get a Page not found’ error and when I try to send again I get the ‘Duplicate post’ error. But hours later the post is NOT there at all. I was ussing Fire Fox 16 on Zorin 5.

      I upgraded to Zorin 6 (overdue for it) and ended up with Fire Fox 18. Then I couldn’t read any posts in line, but they opened up in a new tab OK. I didn’t even try to make any posts.

      Today I’m at where I do some volunteer work and using their Win 7 Enterprise system. This reply is coming from MSIE 9 – the system also has Fire Fox 18 (upgraded in the last week). I have TR open in both browsere and there is a very dramatic difference in the look of the same page. FF is definately handling the Java in a very different manner to MSIE at the moment. However, I do note the Java Platform SE 6 U24 6.0.240.7 has been disabled by FF as “…. known to cause security or stability issues.” – with a link to:

      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p80

      which says:

      Java Plugin has been blocked for your protection.

      Why was it blocked?

      Outdated versions of the Java plugin are vulnerable to an actively exploited security issue. All users are strongly encouraged to update their Java plugin. For more information, please read our blog post or Oracle’s Advisory.
      Who is affected?

      All Firefox users who have installed the Java plugin, JRE versions below 1.6.0_31 or between 1.7.0 and 1.7.0_2.

      What does this mean?

      Users are strongly encouraged to disable the problematic add-on or plugin, but may choose to continue using it if they accept the risks described.

      When Mozilla becomes aware of add-ons, plugins, or other third-party software that seriously compromises Firefox security, stability, or performance and meets certain criteria, the software may be blocked from general use. For more information, please read this support article.

      Blocked on April 2, 2012. View block request.

      end quote

      it also refers to the blog at:

      Blocklisting Older Versions of Java

      I’m going to install the new version of java and see what happens. I’ll let you know when it’s done.

      • #2434826

        I just went to Oracle in the link and loaded the new version

        by deadly ernest ·

        In reply to Interesting issue. A couple of days ago I started having issues with TR in

        then removed the old version – no change to how FF works. Have another machine I need to do this to and will remove first.

        • #2434820

          OK, latest testing info results

          by deadly ernest ·

          In reply to I just went to Oracle in the link and loaded the new version

          On the other three systems I deleted Java 6 first and then installed Java 7 – TR pages now appear the same in FF 18 and MSIE 9 and 10 (one system is still XP with IS 9). However, there is still two issues with the Java in FF 18.

          It’s clear you HAVE to delete 6 befor einstalling 7 as I still have issues on the system I added 7 before deleting 6.

          1. If the list preference is in collapsed mode the title shows but I can’t get the individual post to display inb line, it will display properly if opened in a new tab.

          If I change the preference to ‘expanded’ then the posts all display.

          2. Regardless of the display options above, the links for edit, reply, flag, and favorite do NOT work – they just sit and spin. Clearly there is still an issue on how FF 18 is handling these commands.

        • #2903360

          No change to the above as of April, but if in expanded mode I can

          by deadly ernest ·

          In reply to OK, latest testing info results

          make a reply by opening the ‘reply’ window in a new tab; though it won’t open in the main window. Same applies to the edit button.

          I now think the original FF issue has been fixed, but there is a residual problem with the way the TR page works that may be conflicting with the anti-advertisement and security activities I have going.

    • #2434828

      Add me to your list – Times Two

      by maxwell edison ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      Firefox AND Internet Explorer. Neither will play nice in the connection between TR and me. I can log in okay, but when I try to post something, the green circle spins and spins, but no new window appears for me to post.

      AND I can’t open any message. I have to expand all of them in order to read any of them.

      I almost gave up, but decided to try Chrome.

      (Grrrrrr – Chrome works. Grrrrrr – I don’t do Google!)

      • #2434827

        Max, read my post above and read the blogs, then follow the links

        by deadly ernest ·

        In reply to Add me to your list – Times Two

        to load the new version, but try removing the old version first – I just loaded the new and then removed the old, and no fix.

    • #2434824
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      Well if this helps though I doubt it will

      by hal 9000 ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      Every morning at 06.50 I get kicked off TR and am unable to log back in till somewhere around 07.00 [i]My Time[/i] which is -10 Hours on GMT.

      But starting today I got a full listings of replies to both Questions and Discussions that I’m subscribed to which has not been happening for quite a while now and because I predominately use IE under both XP and 7 I’ve not experienced any real Issues with postings though there are the normal ones that just end up in the Bit Bucket for unknown reasons but they don’t seem to be more common than they have been in the past.

      As yet I have not changed FF to the newest so maybe I’ll sit back and ignore the update warnings that I’ve been seeing the past few days in light of what’s been posted above. 😉

      However I have noticed some screwy issues. Like while chasing Spammers I click on their User Name get shown a list of their postings and when I click on Show all there is nothing. Several Page Refreshes may eventually bring up all of their posts but like for instance just now where I was going around deleting posts from [i]clothesbiz10[/i] I would click on a discussion that they have flag and then delete it and when I clicked on the back Button to be returned to the lists of their posts I would get a empty page which required several refreshes to get the listing up again.

      Sometimes it would go back properly but most times it just went back to an empty page with no listings of their posts and when I went to delete the last of the 11 posts that they had made I could flag it but when I clicked on Delete nothing. Maybe there’s someone else who’s deleted it so it’s right but then again maybe not. :^0

      Col

    • #2434697

      Update – FF 18.1

      by charliespencer ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      At home this evening I was greeted by an update from FF 18 to 18.1. Unfortunately, this has made no difference; the same problems still exist. So far the only solution appears to be downgrading to 17.

      • #2434691

        Did you submit a bug report to the FF devs?

        by slayer_ ·

        In reply to Update – FF 18.1

        Cause you should if you haven’t.

    • #2434674

      Firefox plugin check is pissing me off

      by slayer_ ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      It completely blocks your browsing if a plugin is out of date. (foxit in my case)

      If you click the update link, it opens a new tab, that goes to the same stupid plugin out date page.
      Try to load the addons page? Same thing, it redirects to plugins out of date.

      Firefox=deleted
      I switched my Avant to use webkit. I’ll do the same with all my installs.

      • #2434673

        Interesting, I tried to go to IE and found out why I was not using it

        by michael jay ·

        In reply to Firefox plugin check is pissing me off

        went to chrome, works well with Windows, my Linux Mint box still holds Firefox 17 which works well.

        Will have to give Avant a look, thanks for the note.

      • #2426262

        Thank you Slayer

        by michael jay ·

        In reply to Firefox plugin check is pissing me off

        for the tip, I have been test driving Avant Browser and it is indeed sweet.

        • #2903359

          Chrome downloads are sure irritating

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to Thank you Slayer

          I switched back to firefox for a bit. Until I realized that I could turn on the Avant download manager.
          The Chrome one was beyond irritating. Especially if you are downloading EXE’s. It also doesn’t clean up after itself very easily. So you end up with the same file downloaded over and over with a number appended to it.
          Working in Ontime, I download a lot of the attachments for work orders. And it’s nice to in Avant downloader, just click delete and know it deleted the file off my hard drive as well. And since it tracks them all, not just your current session. Cleaning up after several days is still easy.

          Now I am back to Chrome, with my chief complaint sufficiently hidden. I’m happy again.
          I just wish the Chrome spell check was better. It does a lousy job guessing your word. Which is funny because if you copy and paste the word into google and search, 99% of the time it finds the correct spelling of the word.

    • #2434668

      not seeing those problems here

      by who am i really ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      but that may be as a result of using 3.6.28

      I think they dropped the ball with v.4. and up
      so I refused the updates whenever they popped up the dialog

      and the last time I saw an update notice was around v. 11 or 12
      I received an update dialog which Threatened me with a forced update at next browser start

      and the previous update dialog had stated my XP x64 OS was not supported anymore (actually it never was) and I wouldn’t be able to update to v.10

      it was after the Threat of forced update that I disabled all Firefox update checks on all my systems

      the only issues I have are because of security settings, add-ons & preferences I use and not the browser specifically
      eg. the + / – vote buttons have never worked, and always goes to page not found when clicked

    • #2443327
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      Bug filed with Mozilla

      by Mary Weilage ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      Thanks to everyone who posted to this thread. We notified our engineering team about this issue, and one of our engineers filed a bug with Mozilla. Firefox 18.0.1 appears to be having issues with the JavaScript framework we use. Unfortunately, there’s nothing we can do to fix it. We’ll keep you posted.

      Mary Weilage
      CBS Interactive/TechRepublic

      • #2426286

        Gracias, amiga

        by charliespencer ·

        In reply to Bug filed with Mozilla

        I lost track of this discussion and missed Slayer’s recommendation that I do the same. Thanks for cleaning up behind me!

    • #2426289

      Thanks…

      by cmiller5400 ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      Thanks for the update Mary!!

    • #2426159
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      I don’t know about FF but at the moment in IE

      by hal 9000 ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      This site is a disaster. Seems that some changes where made within the last 12 hours or so and I’m not able to log into the site from the discussion threads or questions I have to go to the Join TR and maybe then I can log in.

      The same is happening in FF17, Ad avant and Opera the current versions under both XP and 7. I’ve noticed this late last night when I had 7 open and was having a quick look. I’m also not getting any notifications of any Spam I flag but this has been going on since 25 January.

      Also pages are loading very slowly and worse when I type anything in letters go missing as the site seems way too slow to accept any input.

      Col

      • #2426154
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        Let me check…

        by Tammy.Cavadias ·

        In reply to I don’t know about FF but at the moment in IE

        ..and see if something is up.

        -Tammy

        • #2426145
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          Tammy

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Let me check…

          Everything seems to be working right in Win 7 at the moment.

          I can log in and post without a problem which is radically different to earlier today. Not sure about XP at the moment as I’m not logging out of this OS and back into XP till tomorrow morning. What can I say I’m lazy. 😉

          Col

        • #2426132
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          Glad to hear that…

          by Tammy.Cavadias ·

          In reply to Tammy

          ..aren’t you suppose to be sleeping or something? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          I miss my old XP machine.. I only have a netbook that still has XP on it (and that still runs IE 5). I do still have a running laptop that has Win 98 (the screen went out years ago so I have to hook it up to a monitor when I use it, which is rarely – normally just to see if it still boots.)

          -Tammy [_]3
          Community Manager
          TechRepublic

        • #2426131

          XP Shipped with IE6

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to Glad to hear that…

          What are you trying to pull? lol

        • #2904271
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          Whoops….bad typo…

          by Tammy.Cavadias ·

          In reply to XP Shipped with IE6

          that was suppose to say 6 (had 5 stuck in my head from Win 98) < blush blush>

        • #2904270
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          Doesn’t matter

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Whoops….bad typo…

          As it’s Windows so the names are interchangeable and still do not work. 😉

          Col

    • #2426158

      FYI, the new 18.0.2 doesn’t fix the problem. No text.

      by charliespencer ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      .

    • #2904278

      And still not fixed in the new 19 either. No text.

      by charliespencer ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      .

    • #2427866

      And version 20 doesn’t fix it either. No text.

      by charliespencer ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      .

      • #2427865

        Well then I know not to bother upgrading

        by slayer_ ·

        In reply to And version 20 doesn’t fix it either. No text.

        Because I am sure 20 has added more problems than it has solved.
        I have adblock now for Chrome.
        I am going to have to see if there is a replacement for noscript, web of trust, and perspectives for Chrome as well.

        Too bad Chrome still seems slower than firefox.

        • #2427859
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          Right now I’m testing the new Opera 12.15

          by Wizard57M-TR ·

          In reply to Well then I know not to bother upgrading

          on my netbook, WinXP SP3, Opera 12.15 32 bit…reserving judgment til I’ve stressed it a bit more. Wasn’t that impressed with 12.14, but there were a few sites that didn’t play nice with 11.64.

        • #2427798
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          Well, sad to report I’m rather disappointed in Opera 12.15

          by Wizard57M-TR ·

          In reply to Right now I’m testing the new Opera 12.15

          So, back to using 11.64, for the time being. Had several instances of a tab not closing, the contents left on display in perpetuity (much like many TOS statements about content you upload to various services), but no link is active, the close button doesn’t work, keyboard non-responsive, but only in the tab I tried to close. I am still hesitant to even try a new Opera when they change browser/Javascript engines to Google’s “Blink”, to me that’s just another Google Chrome with a new skin, much like all the so-called “browsers” we had in the late 90’s early 2000’s that were just a skin for MSIE.
          Anywho…YMMV.

        • #2427787

          I am already using one of those so why bother

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to Well, sad to report I’m rather disappointed in Opera 12.15

          Cause I hate the minimalist skins of firefox, chrome and IE.

        • #2903412

          I can customize more of the FF GUI than other browsers. No text.

          by charliespencer ·

          In reply to I am already using one of those so why bother

          .

        • #2903406

          All browsers are starting to annoy me

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to I can customize more of the FF GUI than other browsers. No text.

          They all seem so slow, prone to locking up while they work in the background. They all use huge memory for no apparent reason.
          I have 3 chrome tabs open and it has spawned 8 processes totally about 250mb of RAM. And I have 2 tabs in firefox, totalling another 300mb of RAM.
          By comparison, outlook 2010 is using 40 mb of ram. Even with my 8gb inbox.

      • #2903309

        Nor 20.0.1. No text.

        by charliespencer ·

        In reply to And version 20 doesn’t fix it either. No text.

        .

    • #2903464

      Firefox installed itself on my computer

      by slayer_ ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      What the f….
      Not sure how, I ritually never update anything, and yet somehow I got FF20.
      I don’t even use FireFox.

      • #2903458
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        And IE10 installed itself on my computer

        by hal 9000 ·

        In reply to Firefox installed itself on my computer

        Well one OS that I don’t use all that much and as a direct result I’m no longer able to log into TR.

        Seems that Windows Update broke TR. :^0

        Col

        • #2903455
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          I installed IE10 on my Win7 notebook…

          by Wizard57M-TR ·

          In reply to And IE10 installed itself on my computer

          and I’m actually surprised at how quick it is. That notebook is only an old Compaq Presario CQ62, 2 gig ram 320 gig HD, Intel Celeron…IE9 ran “OK”, but so far IE10 is much better, I can even log on to TR! I’ve even slowed on my Opera 11.64 usage on that one. Must be something “down under” that broke your TR, Col, hehe! Are you holding it wrong? Oh, never mind, it’s not an “iGadget”…LOL 🙂

        • #2903096

          you mean there are things that a Windows updates doesn’t break?

          by deadly ernest ·

          In reply to And IE10 installed itself on my computer

          wow, that is news

        • #2903095

          IE10 broke my system aswell

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to And IE10 installed itself on my computer

          And two others at work here, it made all links unclickable in all browsers.

        • #2903062
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          I just thought of something, maybe related, maybe not…

          by Wizard57M-TR ·

          In reply to IE10 broke my system aswell

          are you perchance using 64 bit Windows 7? My old notebook is running 32bit Windows 7 and IE10…there were reports in the past of problems with the 64bit IE on Win7, so, if you are running 64 bit, might try the 32 bit version of IE10 and see if that makes a difference.
          Note: this is just a “best guess” type of solution, I have no way of testing it. Just thought I’d throw it out for a possibility. 😉

      • #2903097

        it may have got done by a sweetheart deal

        by deadly ernest ·

        In reply to Firefox installed itself on my computer

        whenever you update certain adobe products it installs Google Chrome unless you spot the micro box with the mini tick that’s almost impossible to read and remove the tick before you authorise the update. I think FF may have some similar deals with people.

    • #2902789

      Maybe the js framework used in TR is not standard enough?

      by el_baby ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      I use Ubuntu 12.04 and Firefox 20.0… it seems this problem has been here for some time. MSIE is out of the question for me and I really don’t like having to switch to chromium every time I want to reply to a comment 🙁

    • #2428611

      Firefox 21

      by cmiller5400 ·

      In reply to Problems viewing TR via Firefox?

      Is still broken 🙁

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