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By JustKim ·
What should you do when your boss continuously makes promises to promote you but never follows through? The excuse is always that I need more experience but I have been "experiencing" this job for over 4 1/2 years and have yet to be promoted to manager. He never tells me specific reasons. Just that I need more experience.

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Been there done that

by fjaskulski In reply to From the voice of experie ...

If you are too too too good at what you do and it makes the ole' boss shine (when he'd never shine on his own) then he's going to keep playing these games. Get that resume tuned up and get outta there ASAP. No sense wasting time doing anything else since most of the posts here suggest it anyway. Good luck....

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Need to move discussion along

by loymc In reply to Promotion Withheld

Your boss's comment on you needing more experience helps neither of you.

You need him to be specific on the skills or behaviours you need to develop. If he can't do this it may be time to consider the other options outlined by others.

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You must prove yourself

by Kevj In reply to Promotion Withheld

I was recently promoted after a move to our new office. The move involved a build out of office space, procuring new desktops, servers and a phone system. I worked in the new office during construction removing old Ethernet and phone wiring, pulling new Ethernet wiring and terminating network connections. The weekend of the move, Thursday through Sunday, I left my house at 4:00am and the earliest I returned was 11:00pm. On Monday, the staff walked into the office to new computers and phones but, their email and data were all in place just as they left it on Friday. The move was basically seamless for the staff. That was what it took for me to get promoted.

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Too valuable where you are...

by WWforLiving In reply to Promotion Withheld

I have found that if you are too valuable where you are currently positioned, it creates a reason to keep you there that cannot really be voiced by your superiors. If they were to tell you that you are doing your job too well to make it worth our while to promote you would only serve to make you less of an asset to the company as you tried to change that to get a promotion. Also if they want the job done at the level you are performing it now, it would be very difficult and expensive to replace you.
These are realities of doing a good job sometimes and although frustrating are also a compliment in a way.

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Be careful what you wish for...

by mitchlr In reply to Promotion Withheld

It really depends on the organization. You may have all the requisite competencies and abilities to manage, but some organizations require a level of fealty by managers which is almost Mephistopholean in degree (for those who haven't read Goethe, what I'm saying here is some companies demand more than competence; they want your soul.)
Management 'material' in the eyes of some companies means a willingness to make ethical compromises and to treat people like things. These steps are often demanded by companies who are in the all-too-familiar cycle of implementing cost controls across the board, and are placing short term financial results ahead of long-term company development.
This may not be the case in your company -- maybe you're just under someone who sees you as a possible competitor. The clueless management types who have few or no technical skills in IT but who specialize in office intrigue are legion. They know the folks who work for them are way smarter than they are and are threatened by them. They will do whatever they need to in order to protect their position.
If you are in a company that rewards this kind of junk, you basically have three choices:
1. Decide that you want to be a manager, sell your soul to the company and start back-stabbing all those around you, and go over the top of your manager and stab him in the back, too. (consequences -- you will probably be recognized by the upper management as someone who 'has what it takes' to make it, but you will have to slowly strangle your conscience until it's dead.)
2. You can satisfy yourself with a technical track if you have to stay at this company. (consequences - you get to continue working with folks you like, but you'll never be able to completely trust those you work *for*, and you will wonder about what might've been if you had the courage to do something. You may want to approach management about creating a technical track that has promotability -- some companies have technical advisors who are in the same 'grade' as managers but who do not supervise others, rather advise groups and business users about technical needs, engage in strategic architecture of systems and infrastructures, etc.)
3. Bail. Go into consulting or get a position with a company that remembers that businesses, while primarily economic organizations, are also inherently social ones as well, and where you may be able to start off with a management position.

I guess there's also a fourth alternative, and that is to study more on management and leadership and begin to consciously seek opportunities to showcase these skills in your current position. If you're in a meeting that is languishing for lack of direction, take the opportunity to go to the whiteboard and outline the plan to get out of the current dilemma -- draw up the rough draft of the project plan then and there. Don't order people to do things, but suggest roles for different people [Joe, you're strong in this sort of development. Wouldn't you be a good fit to take this module... Jane, you are great at interface design. If Mary says it's okay, why don't you work on those] If stepping up to the plate results in a positive outcome, you will have a sense of accomplishment, even if the Machiavelli you work for wants to take the credit for it. Do this enough times, and sooner or later benefits will come -- either you'll be moved up, or you will build your resume by having several successful projects under your belt and you'll be able to apply for a management role elsewhere.

Be sure to choose carefully, though. A management role can either be very gratifying or something that becomes an unbearable yoke. What is considered management 'material' in one company will get you fired in another. Choose who you work for wisely, and work for reasonable people who know that taking care of employees is in the best long-term interest of the company.

And while you're waiting for change, cultivate patience. You may have a family relying on you to bring home the bacon or other responsibilities. Build up enough funds to give you the freedom to make a lateral move or even take a pay cut if it will take you in the direction you want to go.

-- Dex

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Get A New Job

by Logos-Systems In reply to Promotion Withheld

I have been in this industry since 1970. I can tell you one truth, and that is, if you want a promotion you will get it; but ususally it will be with another company. So either be satified with what you have, and be greatful you have a job in this economy, or go find a new one.

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I agree

by Aldanatech In reply to Get A New Job

I don't see that promotion comming anytime soon so it is time to look elsewhere. Just remember that if asked why you're leaving your current position to say that you are happy with it but you want to advance on your career.

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Is there a position to promote you to?

by 0ldan In reply to Promotion Withheld

Often everyone in a group has the necessary objective qualifications for promotions. And if there is only one position, what is the manager to do?

The first thing I think you should do is make sure there is really an opening for you to be promoted into. That's where Human Resources or Personnel comes into the picture. They can give you an objective view of the roadmap to that coveted promotion.

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Promotions aren't entitlements

by itdood In reply to Promotion Withheld

It sounds like you feel you're entitled to a promotion because you "put in your time". What have you done to show your value at a higher level in the organization?

Ask your supervisor to help you draft a development plan to reach your goals if experience is the issue. Your supervisor may not be referring to "time" when they reference your experience. They may feel you are not a good fit for the new role from a personality standpoint.

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the direct approach

by DaveSlash In reply to Promotion Withheld

Maybe I'm just overly direct (which is a very common malady for techno-dweebs such as myself), but if my boss said that I need more experience for a promotion, I?d ask, ?Specifically what type of experience are you referring to??

Depending on the answer, I?d probably follow that up with ?Exactly what can I do to obtain that experience??

If the answer to that last question was simply ?Nothing? or ?Wait for it?, I?d update my resume and start looking elsewhere.

Of couse, if the boss answers the questions with a specific course of action, then follow it!

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