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Prtable CD to old stereo radio receiver

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I am figurin’ on connecting a homemade cable from the earphone connection of my portable (dragable) CD-player to the line input of the mississ’es old HiFI stereo amplifyer.

Any Caveats or things I should bera in mind?

Thanks in advane and thumbs.

G

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This should be a straight 3.5 MM Stereo Lead

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They should be available in any Audio Store. 😉

If you require a different adapter at the Receiver end there are a series of Adapters available to turn a 3.5 MM Jack into whatever is required. But this lead consists of 3 wires a Left, Right and Neutral.

Col

Yes , two RCA plugs (japan plugs?) would be fine

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Thats nice. i was thinking of having the cable made especially for me.

I guess differance in impedance can be overcome . 32 0hm vs. 100 kohm 0.7 volt

G

As

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OH Smeg has suggested it is a lot easier these days to pick up a 3.5 mm Stereo Lead from an Electronics Store. All made up and ready to go.

On another note this is what I use to record my Vinyl Records. I did a Google in your area but I didn’t come up with a match. While you are at the Store getting your lead you could ask about this. It was less than $100 AUS and good value for the price.

Optimus LAB-1100 TurnTable

http://www.productreview.com.au/showitem.php?item_id=56719

Mighty thanks

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ALSO Clas Ohlson has a turntable with USB connection for 1000 SEK.

Would that eliminate need for preamp and soundcard?

i have not checked the details yet.

also i have to clear out the room where ill put the old p2 PC.

The USB Turntables

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Don’t require anything other than a USB Socket so there is no need for a Pre Amp or Main Amp to boost the Signal or any specialist Audio Capture Card which there where several made a while ago.

You would still naturally still require a Sound Card in the computer to playback anything that is saved tot he HDD but otherwise no other Hardware is required.

As I’m lazy and have the hardware here already I use a decent Turntable with a Moving Magnet Pickup feeding a Pre Amp then an Amp with a RCA Plugs on it and feed this straight into a 3.5 mm Jack into the Line In on the Sound Card.

Now all I really need is the time to copy all of my Vinyl over to Digital Format. Hopefully I’ll get some soon but as things presently stand they will have remastered and released all of my vinyl on CD before I get seriously started in saving my Vinyl. 🙁

Col

I’ve started

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but I keep getting interrupted and it is very time consuming. A few people have asked me to do their copying for them but I’ve politly declined. I did offer to let them use my equipment but so far I’ve had no takers.
You are right though. By the time I get through mine I could probably pick up a CD with it already remasterd. 😉
I have been using Steinberg Clean V.5 to repair some of them.

Well I’ve got as Far as converting the Tracks that are Absolutely required

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And then got interrupted so I have so far escaped the tedious time required to convert all of my Records.

I spent a couple of Days just after the move Ripping all of the CD’s to MP3 and I now have well over 100 GIG of MP3 Files stored on the system. Somehow I don’t think that they will all fit on 4 GIG MP3 Player. 😀

I got a customers system in recently and they had a problem with I Tunes which I had to fix and when I got it running it showed 385 Days of Playing Time on their Library. Somehow I don’t think that it would all be listened to either. 😉

I am however sure that if I was to use I Tunes mine would be measured in Decades not years and that is without the Vinyl or Open Reel Tape. 😀

Col

I’ve moved on

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from Open Reel. I don’t even own one anymore. Brings back memories though. Every move that I had I threatened to get rid of it as the cabinet that it was in weighed a ton. My OH’s uncle built the cabinet when he was in Darwin so it travelled around a bit.

Do the other way round

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Give thorugh instructions to yor neighbors technically and musically interested kid or your niece or her cousin, whoever.

do it together first an ten let him take over.

treat him as a guest, give him dinner and afters.

don’t offer no money, but let him keep whatever music he likes. if he does’nt dig your music at all, just ask abot his/her friends

G

RE: [i]but let him keep whatever music he likes

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You are of course aware that would be Illegal are you not?

While here you are entitled to make copies of the Vinyl that you own for your own personal use it is a straight Breach making copies for others or allowing others to make copies of your propriety.

Technically even paying someone else not directly part of your Family is a Breach of Copyrighter unless they have written Authority from the Copyright Holder who in this case would be the Individual Record Companies who’s Disc’s you have purchased.

Col

You are quite right. It is totally illegal. Just a mindslip.

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In the UN and soccer World hampionship there are 170 – 190 countries represented.

Might mean there are about 200 countries in the world.

each one might have its own jurisdiction and various law enforcement.

It’s hard to regard approximately 80 million people as criminals

G

That’s not how the Bureaucracies and Big Business see things :D

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they see every one as trying to steal from them at every opportunity, Of course because they think that way it encourages a lot of people to do exactly that make Valid Claims or just do as they like. Could be that they are getting exactly what the deserve. :^0

Personally I love the way that Record Companies always say that the Artists are the ones suffering when actually the artists get very little of every Record Sold and even less of any MP3 Tracks sold which cost the Record Companies even less than a Record. Owning any Record Company is just a license to print money and take from others whenever possible. But as most people think as they act I can say from personal experience that those in the Recording Industry on the Business Side at least get exactly what they deserve. :0

Col

I bet…

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I bet 50 cent 10 % of them will not be rereleased.

Considered transfering them into 196 kbit MP3:s?

G

Yes I have considered ripping them to MP3

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But it is time consuming to do and then properly clean up. Vinyl is Noisy and can be downright nasty with nasty Turntables or Poor Quality Pickups so there is much more work involved than just transferring to a HDD in any form.

This is only something worth doing in a case where the material is not available from other forms and in my case that is about 95% of the Vinyl that I have here. Things like the Original Master Disc’s are not things that are likely to be moved to CD or any other form in the same Quality as the original Vinyl Disc which is a pity. But then again the same can be said about most of the stuff that I have on Open Reel as well and they require far more looking after than the Vinyl does. With Vinyl you are not likely to have the sound degrade owing to Print Through for instance but it is really a full time job to move a lot of this over to Digital Form and even then depending on where you reside it may not be legal to keep Backup’s of what you have done if it is Legal to even change the format of the Music to begin with. After all how do we expect the [b]Poor[/b] recoding companies to make money if we don’t constantly buy what they have to sell. :^0

Col

You will still

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need a soundcard. You may also need a USB 2 PCI card to get the full benefit of USB 2. The turntable that you are looking at should have a built-in pre-amp.

USB PCI

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I have not been screwing around in old computes for some yeas now, and i have mislaid my old tools.

would a n ordinary built in usb 2.0 work pretty well?

preamp and RIAA curve it will be.

G

You’ll be OK

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if it already has USB 2 support. The Turntable should have the Pre-Amp so it should be good to go.

Don’t forget with the Thumbs that the answers only have to be Helpful and don’t necessarily have to be a definitive answer. The Chas has gone to great lengths with his response.

Thanks

Headphone Our Versus Line In

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One thing to watch out for is that the headphone out jack on many systems has too high of a voltage to be used with some line-in connections.

“Walkman” style portable devices have a fairly low headphone output level. A “dragable” portable system may have a high power amplifier that could easily overdrive the line input of just about any system. If this is a high output system, you may need to add an attenuator circuit in line with the cable. Radio Shack and other electronics suppliers used to have headphone jack attenuators that just plugged in.

Being a large portable, I might also presume it has a standard 1/4″ headphone jack rather than the 3.5mm mini-jack. You can find adapters that convert 1/4″ jacks to 3.5mm and then use the premade cable.

If you do end up making your own cable, start with a standard RCA type patch cable, and just cut off one end. Most of the 3.5mm headphone cables I have worked with are constructed in such a manner that it is very difficult to make the shield (common) connections for both channels.

On either style of headphone plug, the left signal lead connects to the “tip” or point of the plug.
The right channel connects to the “ring” or center piece.
Both shields (ground) connect to the “shield” or outer connection.

3.5mm mini plugs require some patience to make good solder connections to.

Once you have everything working properly, I recommend using aquarium grade silicone sealant to encase the 3.5mm connections and provide some strain relief for the connections. You must use the aquarium grade or “non-acetic acid” silicone or it will corrode the connections. If it smells like vinegar, it is the wrong type to use.

One final note, using a headphone out jack can be frustrating. The setting of the volume control on the unit will have a significant impact on the level and quality of the sound from the system.

Chas

Far out Chas

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Mighty thank for thorough and professional advice.

output is probably 30 – 70 ohm and output voltage can be set with volume control.

line input is probably 50 – 100 kohm , 0.77 volts.

the headphone jack is 3.5 mm and kills the internal speaker. no other output or input.
it is combinde cd radio and tape.

i stopped soldering 15 years ago. my brther can follow your clear description.

G

Why use a cable?

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Why not use an FM transmitter?
Something like this:
http://www.digibuys.co.uk/Wireless-FM-transmitter-for-ipod-mp3-p-7.html

Smartarse !! …

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So now all the poor bloke has to do is run cables from his lounge to his car !! :^0

No, it takes batteries as well.

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Still need to makeup a Lead to plug into the WiFi Device

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After all it is to transmit a Signal from an I Pod not real Sound Equipment. :p

Col

I don’t think so

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If you plug this transmitter into a ipod/walkman/mp3 player etc, it will transmit whatever’s playing on radio waves, so all you need is a radio tuned into the frequency you’re transmitting at.

I found my digital conversions slightly disappointing …

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It was a bit of a mix between realising that I wasn’t as impressed by the old music, plus noticing that the old music didn’t ‘sound’ quite the same when played from a HDD.

The solution (to the second problem) was to alter the equaliser settings of whichever media player I used.

Digital music has a distinctly tinny sound, unlike the glorious RUMBLE that would accompany anything being played from a turntable. 😉

If you just pipe the Sound into a WAV File they are pathetic

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You have to edit out a lot of the junk and clean up the Track before you play it and that is what really takes the time.

Not to mention it completely alters the way that it sounds. 🙁

Col

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