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You’re a fount. And a rock. Acerbic, cryptic, wordsmith. Master of Necessity. Phuque anyone who says other.

RIP, dear man.

[i]santeewelding left us sometime this morning/last night, due to complications of esophageal cancer.[/i]

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RIP

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I’m so sorry to hear, Jen. Please convery my deepest sympathies and condolences to the family. He will be missed around here.

Oh, Jeez

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DAMN!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBabMxnFQsQ seems appropriate…

Thassa good choice.

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🙂

Raising an 18yo malt

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in honor and memory.

Trying not to water it down too much…

If I don’t have an 18….

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Maybe two 12 yo will do.

If I run out of 18

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I have a Talisker 10 behind it…

I still have some Dalwhinnie

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That I bought in Louisville when I was at the first TR gathering, seems appropriate to have some of that.

Right there with ya

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I’ll have a toast to him tonight, as well. One of my favorite contributors. He will be greatly missed.

Cap’t!

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I’m sorry this is what it took to bring you back out of the woodwork. Always good to hear from you.

Raising a tumbler

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of cream sherry. He turned me on to that stuff. Daggone it. 😉

Harvey’s Bristol Cream I hope

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I’m drinking Glenlivet.

rest well

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we will miss you dearly

Say it aint so

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Oh My, that hurts.

Sad to hear

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That’s sad to hear, I’m glad I got to meet him in person a few years ago.

J.Ja

Remember him well

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just to put it out there, you might want to revisit this:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/tr-out-loud/tr-member-spotlight-with-santeewelding/336

Thank you for that.

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I’ve a copy of it somewhere, but in the mess this place is right now, somewhere could be at the bottom of the deep blue sea.

I can hear him laughing, now

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That is a good way to remember him, thanks!

By the way: there are new features in my stuff : http://www.techrepublic.com/members/discussions/4600554?tag=discussion-thread
10225 posts by Santeewelding
A legacy

Ansu

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Sonja hasn’t interrogated you, has she?

We need to request a revival of the ‘Member Spotlight’ podcast. We have several newer members worthy of being interviewed since this feature was discontinued, including yourself.

No, I havent…

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And yes, there are…. (to be continued)

Indeed a legasy

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however due to a bug I would submit that his number is somewhat larger, when you start a discussion your first post is not recorded and Santee started quite a number of discussions, for example Soni’s TR Community scoreboard for November 18, 2011, when you go to her list of posts it does not appear;
http://www.techrepublic.com/members/discussions/598322?tag=mantle_skin;content

Her post to that thread, “early to bed, early to rise” does show in her list of posts, I should think that all of your posts, including starting a discussion should be listed.

So that’s how it is…

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I had noticed it with Q&A stuff, but I didn’t consider if it extends to normal discussions. What a boob I am 😀
We should probably get that fixed… who should we lean on this time? 😉

Golampo, got your ears on? this is a bug that needs fixing

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Guess I am asking with this, he seems to be the fix it man.

http://www.techrepublic.com/members/profile/4233042?tag=content;siu-container

Pushed out to the front

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Oh geez.

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I was of the understanding that boobs came in pairs. 😐

That’s where you went wrong Boxxy

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If you watched Star Trek Original Kirk’s Green Hottie had 3. 😉

Col :^0

I was kinda thinkin’

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about a mother/son pair I know. :^0

I knew that…

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really… but when I tried writing “what a pair of boobies I am”… it didn’t sound right. Not right at all…

RIP Santeewelding

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I will dearly miss your verbal artwork. I would search TR for your comments. You made me practice my thinking.

I hope those who new you better are consoled.

Cut a hole and pull me through!

You’ll be missed

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This is a poor way to get me back on TR.

My condolences to everyone who’ll miss him – that includes me.

Circumstances aside

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It’s good to see you here…

Crap

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Crap & Dam another one bites the dust.

Col

You know Col

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I feel guilty even saying this but I d@mn near choked to death on my breakfast sandwich while laughing at your post.

I guess that if we don’t have laughter we gotta cry so, I’d rather be laughing enjoying the good memories :_|

Here’s one for Santee [_]3

No I’m not accepting the blame for another

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It wasn’t my fault Honest. 😉

Col

Send me coffee

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And all will be forgiven… 😀

(((hugs)))

Need to remember to hug the folks I love while I’m still bouncing…

OH Goody I can reply now

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Something that hasn’t happened for a couple of days Tig.

Sorry no Coffee I have to follow my beliefs and help break your addictions. Now Tigs just step into this Room and I’ll help with your Addiction to Oxygen. 😀

I need to test it out to make sure that the Vacuum Chamber works properly before I send one Professor into it. She’s completely Insane. 😉

Apparently any Substance that you take regularly means that your Addicted to it. May work with Opiates but I chose to use the Oxygen Analogy it bugs the hell out of her. :^0

(((Hugs Tig)))

Col

I know

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Seems like so many have gone recently another one that brightened my day and will be missed

The front rank becomes ever thinner.

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Glimpses of the cleft are seen; sounds of the depths grow less faint.

You were memorably unique, Teasel; I shall miss sparring with you.

Wish Absolutely were here to see you off.

I was thinking that

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about Abs. Lordy, did they ever duke it out! :^0

Be with you, man!

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How you are goes for all things.
May you be with you, as you kick ass and take names in all eternity.
Thanks.

And, if you find yourself on that branch; get your ass back here, young man!

Another good one gone. Dammit.

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So glad I got to meet him.

Memories of the Fox and Hounds, discussing the history of Newcastle Brown Ale, combined with a lesson on the Geordie pronounciation……

“NeeyouCASSul”

and he got it right on the third go.

Richard my dear, you are sorely and sadly missed.

No-one ever leaves the Gatherings again while I’m there without leaving me a double hug. New rule. Ok?

GG

He spelt it

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rather like that, from then on. 😐

Santeewelding, A true polymath

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“Vita, non memoria abitus”

Rest well, my friend

You know he’d kick your butt

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for ‘true’, right? 😉

That would be fine with me

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After which we could discuss it further.

Now we’ve lost our curmudgeon.

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Dammit, web communities aren’t supposed to last long enough for us to become this close to people, especially those we rarely or never meet. Now who will linguistically abuse the new fish?

I’ll second that.

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RIP.

Damn, man.

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I don’t suppose this will be true any longer:
http://santeewelding.com/suddenly.jpg

I’m going to miss him.
http://santeewelding.com/p7070004.jpg

Don’t anyone forget his advice:
http://santeewelding.com/blue_light_p6270009.jpg

Don’t miss him, innate him.

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“Don’t miss me, innate me.”

3 responses.

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[ol]
1. Already done.
2. Verbing weirds language. 😀
3. I’ll still miss him. Like a tornado. 😉
[/ol]

Will return suddenly…

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Well… if anyone can do it, eh?

Heh.

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Heh heh heh. B-)

#2

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A man after my own heart, if you can’t fix it right the first time get a bigger hammer. :p

If the biggest hammer that you can swing doesn’t work grab the Gas Axe and it’s certain to be fixed one way or the other. 😉

Col

D@mmit

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Your banter will be sorely missed around here Santee…

We are all just passing through

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some just leave more of an impression on others during our stay.

Santee, you will be missed. Say hi to Mycroft and Scummy for me.

Hope he’s partying with

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Old Mycroft and The Scummy One right now.

Hear, Hear!

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Good to know such a good crowd awaits.

The three are probably flaming each other. 🙂

Well actually

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The 3 of them have got together and are making plans.

Now who should be concerned?

I know I’m not one of those people who need to be concerned. 😀

Col

What am I going to do

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with this dictionary now that I no longer need to translate his words? I think he enjoyed confusing me…. no, I KNOW he did! 😀

Did I mention how CUTE he is? And I say “is” because the memory I have of him will forever remain.

If it were as simple as a dictionary

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Then it would have been way too easy.

I won’t claim to have been one of the better people at translating him. Far from it.

But I do know that it involved context, the ability to look beyond the obvious, a sometimes warped perspective and wordplay.

Save it for your next life, or …

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… one after that. You never know who you might run into on the other side.

You need to do a collection of his best work.

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It won’t need context, it’s more challenging without it!

Santeewelding

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Santeewelding was one of the most interesting, deep thinking and challenging members of the Tech Republic community – and without a doubt one of the most responsible for defining the culture and tone of our message forums.

Santee was frequently misinterpreted and misunderstood, generally by those who found his complex writing unfathomable. There is no doubt that Santee’s writing style was frequently riddle-like and difficult to decipher. Many dismissed this as a sign that he was hiding a lack of valid content in unnecessary complex prose, or that he was simply incoherent or pretentiously difficult just for the sake of difficulty.

While on the surface it was easy to read Santee’s responses and assume these things, a careful analysis over time made it readily apparent that Santee was almost always saying very important things. I’d say that it was more frequent that I did not understand Santee than that I did, but in each case where I did puzzle out his meaning, not only was he absolutely correct, but the way he had expressed it was as complex and elegant as a complex mathematical formula. Santee brought the science of math to the written word. His writing was rule based, well defined, and consistently repeatable. On the other side of this realization, I had the strong sense that when I didn’t understand a post Santee made, it was not his fault, but mine. It took genuine thought and effort to get Santee’s point. You couldn’t just read it like it was background noise. I saw many people go up against Santee and walk away thinking they had won the encounter when in fact they had taken the most severe of thrashings without even realizing it. I admired and respected that ability in Santee, and always handled his responses with due caution when he engaged me directly.

I will miss his presence here greatly. He is one of the first names that became recognizable to me in the Tech Republic forums, and along with Palmetto, his posts were always my favorite to read.

You honor me beyond my meager value.

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“It took genuine thought and effort to get Santee’s point.”

I always thought his style was a bit of a test. If you couldn’t get his point, you probably weren’t able to hold up your end of the debate. Gods know there were plenty of times he sailed far over my head, leaving me both admiring and frustrated.

I shall treasure being mentioned in the same sentence.

Well said…

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“I always thought his style was a bit of a test. If you couldn’t get his point, you probably weren’t able to hold up your end of the debate.”

And those of us who are intellectual warriors at debate here on TR were frequently left scratching our heads and trying to figure out what he was driving at.

My favorite Santee tactic – where he would attack the logic or reason of a point or claim I had made, but my actual opponent would misunderstand and take it as a personal attack on themselves, effectively *defending* me and arguing against themselves in the process.

The fear one would leave with after seeing that happen was,

“What it Santee has done that to ME and I just didn’t realize it!”

🙂

Nothing meager about you, Palmie.

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🙂

Goodbye, Santee…

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I’ll miss his corrections of my deplorable butchery of the English language,
along with his insights into technology.
Rest in peace…
Wiz

lmao!

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He sent me his dictionaries. 😡

Why would I not be surprised to learn

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One of them is the complete OED. :-bd

Two volume set.

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😡

Ah, the Short edition

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The Complete is 20 volumes! :0

Were they in English?

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NT

I never understood a word he said

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But I shall still miss trying to figure him out.
RIP

Sh*t

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I realize that there is an age at which you lose people at alarming rates. I always thought that I would be so much older when that began…

I’m so tired of losing people…

Requiescat in pace, my friend.

That’s what’s been haunting me …

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ever since I heard the news yesterday.

At the rate they’ve been falling during my first 65 years, I am not looking forward to what the next 40 will bring.

I can see it now

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You, me, Tig, Palmetto, Max, Colin, James, jd, and others, still [verbally] duking it out on TR. From our wheelchairs. B-)

[Old guy voice] Assuming, of course, there’s still a TR… 😀

Edit: WTF? Forgot Oz.

Easy way to cover all the bases is to just say …

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the Whole Sick Crew.

(Okay; so I stole that from Pynchon’s [i]V[/i]. Sue me.)

Seems oddly appropriate, in light of Time’s review of the time.

[quote]In this sort of book, there is no total to arrive at. Nothing makes any waking sense. But it makes a powerful, deeply disturbing dream sense. Nothing in the book seems to have been thrown in arbitrarily, merely to confuse, as is the case when inept authors work at illusion. Pynchon appears to be indulging in the fine, pre-Freudian luxury of dreams dreamt for the dreaming. The book sails with majesty through caverns measureless to man. What does it mean? Who, finally, is V.? Few books haunt the waking or the sleeping mind, but this is one. Who, indeed?[/quote]

Wheelchairs

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I want the one with each half of a split keyboard mounted on the arms; ASDF on the left, JKL; on the right.

Sandy, the masthead for Mad Magazine includes the phrase, “Contributing artists and writers – the usual gang of idiots”

My goal for my golden years

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is to be in the nursing home with my geeky peeps. We’ll set up a raid, where some of us will distract the nurses, some will hack the medication dispensing machine, and the ones who can walk will remove the “good stuff” and share it out with the team.

Sort of a geriatric mission impossible.

The Geriatric Mission Impossible

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Given the rate at which senility is taking over the lion’s share of my cognitive functioning, I will need more than a self destructing audio tape to successfully complete my part of the mission.

Cue cards at a minimum, I think. Really BIG cue cards.

Between the senility and the Alzhiemer’s…

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…nobody would ever suspect we’re high.

I was just hoping

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For marginally functional. High seems like too much to hope for…

Somehow…

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I figure you’ll be aiming to replace the “calmies” with placebos.

Nope;

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Viagra.

I’d be up for that…

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(Sorry. It [b]had[/b] to be said.)

NO! Don’t vote him up!

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You only encourage him!

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B-)

Oz will seagull in and out

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Of course if TR dissapears, most of us are on Facebook….except Palmy, not sure about Max. And some of the dissapeared are there as well.

Sorry.

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I don’t know if it’s because I can’t work up the courage, or because I can’t work up the interest. Maybe my security concerns aren’t valid. My in-laws visited back in May and set my wife up, something she had no interest in. She’s looked at it less than five times. When she did, she learned more about the nieces’ and nephews’ activities than she really wanted to know, and didn’t care at all about what her relatives’ other friends said or did.

Got it

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Ignore it, mostly.

I keep in touch with some folks on FB. Don’t log in much, tho. It’s a tool. I use it when I need that particular tool to do something. Or when I need to play with my imaginary farm.

valid

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Your security concerns are almost certainly valid. Without asking you what they are in specific detail, of course, I don’t know for sure — but there are craptons of valid security concerns related to Facebook, so don’t feel like you’re alone in that regard.

I have a Facebook account, but I don’t really play Facebook anyway. I’ve probably used it more as a way to research Facebook issues for articles than for my own purposes.

Of course, Justin James keeps mentioning me in posts of his in that utterly awful discussion interface on Facebook, which means I occasionally get emails telling me he’s talking about it. If he has to do that on a social networking site, I wish he’d use Google+ instead; at least that has a tolerable discussion interface. Actually, the Google+ discussion interface is better than that of TR’s default, but not as good as TR as modified by tr-rectify.

+1 for your excellent turn of phrase!

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Shake?

Thanks for the recommendation.

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Now . . . where did I get that turn of phrase?

You don’t have to share anything really

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You can set up a FB ID without disclosing tons of personal information, and you can restrict that little bit to friends. You can even use an alias.

I don’t allow strangers to see my pics or my wall. I don’t share my university, my employers, my mailing address, email address or phone number. I don’t add friends that I don’t know.

I do share concerns about people who share too much. My daughters ended up unfriending their 20 something cousin because of her sharing of more than any of us wanted to know about her personal life.

right

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You don’t have to actually use it at all — which is almost what you do if you don’t share anything on Facebook.

Heh… let me recap that

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Zuckerberg made a tool for sharing too much information, and it’s really good – for sharing too much information.
If you want to, you can use this “tool for sharing too much information” to NOT share too much information.
But that makes Zuckerberg cry. 😀

There’s still my second issue.

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Even if Facebook was the NSA, I probably would still not be on it. As I noted, my brief experience taught me much I DIDN’T want to know about family, and I don’t care at all about what their friends think or do.

Q&A and Discussions here tend to remain on technological topics. While WC conversations do tend to wander, you don’t find many of us publicly airing our dirty knickers as e-therapy. The level of social interaction here is at just about right for me.

"Even if" . . . ?

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> “ESPECIALLY if Facebook was the NSA, I probably would still not be on it.”

FTFY

edit: Holy crap. At one time, I used blockquotes to set off text quoted from other people in my comments, but then TR broke that — then fixed it, then broke it again. I eventually switched to using a greater-than symbol at the beginning of each line of quotes, but now TR eats the greater-than symbol. I bet there are hundreds — if not thousands — of comments from me that are now almost unreadable hash because you can’t differentiate at a glance which parts were my statements and which were someone else’s.

This is getting outta hand.

They had to immunize the code to angle brackets…

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since there were ways to break an entire thread downstream from a mangled set of brackets… which could be exploited to immunize spam to tagging.
It probably had to do with tags left open carrying over to the thread downstream… I guess html doesn’t have a catch-all capper, to cap any and all formatting tag left open upstream?
Now they even have a little in-reply-box guide for which code tags can be used for what… although I have no idea when it displays… I guess it only displays in the “add your opinion” box, not in regular reply boxes… although I haven’t checked.

That’s why I use italics

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TR allows certain BB code tags.
[b][ i ][/b] does [i]italic[/i]
[b][ b ][/b] does [b]bold[/b]
etc.
(delete the spaces, of course)

As Ansu said, sometimes the code key is there, sometimes it isn’t. tr-rectify appears to strip it out.

I’ll have to look into that for tr-rectify.

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For a while, bbcode didn’t work, and only HTML did. It seems like they’ve gradually swung the other way, again.

1. It’s not all that difficult to sanitize HTML without breaking links and the like. Really.

2. I wish they’d just pick a way to do it and stop screwing around with it.

Because of the change in how they handled italics for a while, I stopped using italics. I’m not terribly inclined to start again, because they might change their minds again.

The challenge will be

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… recalling what the h*ll we’re discussing at any given time.

Yep

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Even now, I have to browse some of the longer threads to figure out what’s going on.

Then I forget what I was going to post… 🙁

I’ll have you know that I’m actively looking for a wheel chair now

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Of course it’s got to be electric as fitting a Big Petrol Motor just isn’t feasible but it’s going to be highly modified to suit my needs it looks like this

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj121/HAL9000_photo/davrosfinished7thmay007.jpg

It’s not so much the Wheelchair as the problem it’s the escort of 2 fully functional Darleks that I’ll require that is causing the problem. 😉

Col

I have a spare.

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Shipping it all the way to Constantly Confused Mere Male would cost quite a bit, although not as much as the original cost of the chair. :0

Don’t tempt me

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I may just take you up on it even with the 110V issue. 😀

Col

Pfft. You’d just rebuild the charger to spec.

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You aren’t fooling anybody. :^0

OK back in the days when I fixed Sewing Machines

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I did a lot of 110 to 240 V Conversions.

Some even said that I was the Resident Expert on things like that, though I would disagree I just had a lot of practice and could do them in my sleep. 😉

Col :^0

When people start saying things like that,

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it’s time to [b]run[/b]. :^0

With that address

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you need to ship thousands.

BOO Boo Boo

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That’s another thing that’s gone missing with the site downgrade.

I love the Constantly Confussed Mere Male and it’s not there any longer. :_|

It’s something that [b]SWMBO[/b] relates to as she’s Always right and I know it must be so as she told me so herself. Though now she is starting to find ways to still make herself right and beginning to find ways to nag me yet again.

If she continues I’ll have to start calling her Five Horses [i]Nag, Nag, Nag, Nag & Nag.[/i]. 😉

Col 0:-)

(((hugs))) Sandy

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I’m so glad to see you- even in crap circumstances.

It occurred to me recently that the lion’s share of the people I interact with are people I have either never met or only seen once or twice. It also occurred to me that it hurts just as much to lose an online friend as someone I’ve seen daily. Sometimes more.

In the past three years, I’ve lost both parents, my husband, my aunt, and nearly a dozen friends. I’ve had enough. NO ONE here is allowed to die, dammit! Not one of you. Period.

Yes, ma’am.

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🙂

Yes’m.

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/me salutes.

Tell that to the doctors. It looks like I need a(nother) hernia surgery.

Swearing

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Because sometimes “gosh darn it” isn’t enough…

(((hugs)))

Tell the docs that they REALLY don’t want to deal with a PO’d Tigger. They have to return you in better shape than they got you.

Thank you.

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I’ll endeavour to not do so.

You, neither. Not allowed. Orders, ma’am.

I’m sorry you have lost so many people. I only recall your mention of a few of them, including the SO. Between one’s health, and the health of one’s others, it can become very trying at times. So, more power to you, dear.

Thats so sad

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I had no idea he was so sick. RIP, Santee.

AV

Esophageal cancer

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rarely presents symptoms until it’s ‘too late’. 🙁

Wow! Santee got me to post again!

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It’s been well over a month, maybe closer to two, when I last logged into TR. The reasons for my absence are many, one of which (albeit a small one) is Santee. No explanation is necessary for those who understand; no explanation is possible for those who don’t. I’m sure Santee would see both the humor and the irony in this – that it’s because of him that I now log in.

I’ve often posted links to some song as a response to something or other, and I once posted one to which Santee replied in a most rare, plain-spoken manner. He really liked the song, he simply told me as much, and thanked me for posting it; I think he called it a gem.

It’s one of my favorite songs; it has a great – and, perhaps, a most appropriate – message; and Santee really liked it.

So, I raise a glass of scotch, and I play it again for Santee – and for you.

(I hope I got all that punctuation right!)

Thassa good choice, too.

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Looping… 🙂

I’ll joing you

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In that scotch…second night in a row, I’m sure he would approve.

I will post something I’ve posted before….I sang this for Rememberence day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJS9h09yGEY

Do not stand at my grave and weep,
I am not there; I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow,
I am the diamond glints on snow,
I am the sun on ripened grain,
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the morning???s hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circling flight.
I am the soft starlight at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry,
I am not there; I did not die.

Definitely

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Scotch here as well…

Oh, and punctuation acceptable

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By American rules.

Santee rules, I’m not so sure about; he liked commas more than I do.

Excellent choice of music, Max

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Last night’s beverage selection was Canadian whiskey, but yeah. Me too.

Not the only one…

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I recall he was quite touched by your selection of Poetry in motion, too.

Link

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RIP

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Cant believe he’s gone, he always managed to make me smile, and on occasions bloody well confuse the hell outta me haha

Pretty sure

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he nailed us all rather regularly. :^0

yup

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he probably did, he had the ability to make me feel dumb but not in a bad way in a way that kinda makes you feel in awe of his knowledge, he was a fun guy 🙂

Freakin’ butterflies.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW6Zn3ZF7Do

Yep, and…

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*sigh*

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Thanks, Tigger…

(((hugs))) honey

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I knew you would get it.

RIP, sir; and thanks for the company

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Thanks for telling me what I was trying to say, as well; I’m going to miss your ascerbic wit around here….

So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish

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PS: Hope you remembered to take along your towel.

condolences

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to family and friends. A wordsmith and philosopher has departed our midst.

I don’t know what to say

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Santee will be missed.

I just read this.

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I’m a rookie here at TR. Santee was one of the first members I noticed in the discussion boards. I lurked for a long time, trying to learn the tone and “rules” of the DBs. Santee was definitely one of my favorite TR people and he probably didn’t even know it. We talked a few times here on TR. Direct and indirect conversations with him had me checking the meaning of words, learning new ones and then using those words in written and oral conversation with others.

He will be missed by many.

another tough day

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I’ll remember him at the billiards table in Louisville.

Did he go just the first year?

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Thats where I met him. And you of course…

I’m not sure.

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I wasn’t there this year.

Nick was the only one there this year

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http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/103-345477-3503161

It would have been two of us . . .

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I would have been there, if CBSi had not decided through the agency of a contractor that I was no longer eligible to write for TR.

Somehow, I never know about those discussions until someone else points out that I was mentioned.

I suspected as much.

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Didn’t really want to ask.

I miss your articles.

Thanks.

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I appreciate the kind regard.

Note that it wasn’t that I didn’t want to show up because I wasn’t writing. Rather, it was that with expenses this year I found it much more difficult to justify spending the time and money on the trip if there wasn’t a business relationship involved, even nominally.

Exhibit A: I just spent $3500 (give or take) on auto repair, and it’s not done yet. Yeah, a trip to Louisville to talk about a small-revenue contract I used to have seemed like a bit of a frivolous expense.

I missed it.

You are quite welcome.

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I’ve never made it to TRCon myself. But I do miss your writing, and I found some of your other spots on the intarwebs to be somewhat “down” or not updated when I’ve gone looking.

If you are taking a break, more power to you.

Eh . . .

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I’m feeling a bit unmotivated to write for my personal spaces on the Interwebs. I’m phasing out SOB [0] kinda by default, because I find managing WordPress to be a tremendous pain in my fourth point of contact, and I’m slacking off on blogstrapping [1] (because I suck, evidently). I haven’t gotten around to getting UnivAcc [2] set up (a new thing I want to do). I haven’t added a proper “news” interface to the Copyfree Initiative [3] site yet — there’s just the @CopyfreeNews Twitter feed so far.

I should probably set up a (low-traffic) mailing list just so people who keep asking about whether I’m writing anything these days will have a way to get news from me if/when I start writing with some regularity again.

(Technically, I am writing right now, but it’s fiction and not fit for human consumption until I give it an edit to produce a second draft.)

edit: I guess it’s not so much “I’m taking a break!” as “I’ve lost momentum, and I’ve been too lazy to push-start this roller coaster again.”

1: sob dot apotheon dot org (was temporarily broken, but I fixed it when I realized it was down)

2: blogstrapping dot come (my devlog, on a minimalist content management system I wrote myself)

3: univacc dot net (Universal Accelerant, to be about innovation, advancement — technological and otherwise, economics of advancement, politics of advancement, et cetera)

4: copyfree dot org (advocacy and definition for copyfree licensing, plus resources; I’m currently working slowly on some tools for the site, including improvements for stuff that’s already there as well as new things)

Just in case my links won’t get eaten . . .

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1. http://sob.apotheon.org (SOB): general braindump site, getting phased out because I loathe WordPress and want to specialize a bit more in several venues rather than stir everything together as mental gumbo

2. http://blogstrapping.com (blogstrapping): devlog, where I mutter about programming stuff

3. http://univacc.net (UnivAcc): futurism and speculation

4. http://copyfree.org (Copyfree Initiative): working toward a better world by freeing the product of the intellect for everyone

If you’re still following infosec news intently…

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I think a lot of people would be interested in following a link-dump stream, maybe in a dedicated “persona” on Google+? If it wouldn’t be too much trouble, I think that’d be a popular initiative, and via the reasonably useful commenting system there, it could maybe help you regain focus in that area, since there’d be feedback and stuff.
Just an idea.

Thanks, apotheon.

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I certainly expect people to take breaks from their blogs or abandon them. My, er, curiosity was heightened because I wasn’t seeing you anywhere. But you did turn up in the comments here – I certainly knew you were around by the time of the “guns at work” thread – so I just figured you were on a break. Yet I was still very curious why there were no further articles at TR, the answer to which was made clear to me in an earlier post.

But it looks like you can post links again. You’re right, though. Someone should pick a method, or what is allowed and what isn’t, and stick to it.

BTW, blockquotes are now
[pre] [q] [/q] or [quote] [/quote] [/pre]
for “quote” and “blockquote”, respectively.

edit: And look on in wonder as the pre tag fails yet again…

Just imagine the brackets and all, “q” and “quote” are the relevant tags. Or you can look at the mess in View Source and imagine the angle brackets are square brackets.

Try code tags.

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Maybe TR won’t parse out code within code tags (as opposed to pre tags).

It doesn’t really matter, I guess. In the end, I’m likely to just use plain text with reference to anything that requires (for instance) formatted code on some other site, or to have discussions about such things on other sites in the first place. When I can’t count on what I write being legible from one month to the next, my enthusiasm for writing it quickly withers and dies.

Is that what happened?

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I just assumed you had other demands on your time. Bummer.

My wife had to fly to Louisville the weekend before (or after, I don’t remember now) for family reasons, and an extended stay for two wasn’t in the budget this year.

time

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Demands on my time would have prompted me to scale back the rate of my contribution, or take a short break (maybe a month) — not stop writing altogether (for four months so far). I quite liked writing for TR, and felt like I was doing something worthwhile.

Wasn’t able to make it either

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I couldn’t travel up there either,as the cardiologist has restricted me on travel. I hope to make it next year if they have a Gathering.

Same here

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Can’t fly and nowhere near the stamina required to drive for 10 hours. Crossing my fingers for next year, myself.

This aging thing BITES!

Well, it may bite,

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but so far it appears to beat the alternative. Although, I must admin, no one has yet posted to the contrary…

I wish you both better prospects in the future.

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BFilmFan and Tigger_Two. I’m sorry you weren’t able to do something good because you just couldn’t hack it (or your doctor said you couldn’t).

I know my wishes get neither me nor you anywhere, I just wanted to express the sentiment.

Just the once

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.

Yes the once, the first Gathering

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Very much not the cryptic, but a very real and vibrant personality, I will remember him in that light, so very glad I got to meet him.

Hoped to meet him again, guess that will have to wait for a later time.

I never met him in person

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But his cryptic apothegms provided a closer contact than most physical presences. I’ll miss him.

He wasn’t an easy read in person

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Slightly less cryptic perhaps but not a talkative type. It takes all kinds of course.

Some of us bonded right away, others gradually. Some stayed on the periphery.

Shelley and I had met before. JD, Ganyssa and I drove down together. Toni and Soni and I had corresponded on articles. Santee wasn’t part of the late night drinking crowd. You had to get to know him over time. A few people actually emailled me a few times to explain what he had posted about me before I began to understand his comments on my posts.

i didnt know him personally, but he had great posts

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too bad i never got to discuss anythign with him 🙁 he obviously was a great person.
Will miss his posts.

A message from my adversary, sparring partner, and friend, OzMedia

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Former TR peers:

I’m ever so sorry to hear that yet another TR member has passed, especially when considering the circumstances.

Santee and I butted heads like a pair of mountain goats on “the brown acid” [i](watch Woodstock for reference)[/i], whether due to misunderstanding or simply due to a difference of opinion, the former being most common. A linguist he certainly was, even if 1000 or more years past his time.

Being English myself, I always have issues with those who can’t speak English…to my personal liking at least, however, Santee was always an exception to that rule. Instead of irritating me with his poor use of grammar, I often found myself frustrated by his superior abilities as a true wordsmith.

For the longest time, I thought he wasn’t making any sense at all, seemingly speaking in tongues. The few times I actually understood the meaning of his jumbled, cryptic fashion[i] (at least I thought I got the general gist of it)[/i], I began to appreciate his comments, having finally understood them, and would ever so enjoy his banter.

While I have been away from “the trenches”, so to speak, due to actions of TR staff, I have grown to respect many of those who often riled me to the point of being blinded to their true meaning, Santee being one of them; perhaps a better way to be, absence makes the heart grow fonder.

Rest in peace, Santee, I know you will be sorely missed by so many and remembered so fondly by the same.

I wish everyone on the TR Forums all the best in their futures in these, ever so gradually recovering, economic times. It’s been a long, tough road for so many and I’m sure it will continue to be so for some time yet. It’s nice to hear that you have all stuck together and helped keep each other’s spirits up as so very few digital communities do.

OzMedia

“…banging my head on some mad buggers wall”

– END POST –

I can’t comment on the reasons Oz had for asking me to post this for him.

Thanks

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Oz, too, is missed. It was good to read what he had to say.

Someone care to fill me in re. Oz’s absence?

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Having all the good stuff crammed into half a screen and vertically stretched beyond reasonableness, along with My Stuff being blank, has made keeping up here most difficult. We really need a decent platform here, such as vBulletin.

If you’re on Firefox . . .

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. . . try using the tr-rectify Greasemonkey script.

Silly question:

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What does this script fix? I’m on FF, and the only problem I’ve had lately is the missing ‘My Stuff’. I recall golampo has acknowledged that as a site problem.

It mostly changes the interface.

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It eliminates the problem of clicking on random parts of the page background registering as a click on an ad you may not even see; it uses the whole width of the screen so that you won’t have cramped narrow spaces with text jammed into them in the middle of the screen; it places hide/expand buttons all over the place with some stuff of dubious utility hidden by default; it changes the colors for input elements to help reduce the incidence of accidentally replying in the wrong place; it makes nesting of comments just slightly more obvious; it changes font sizes to make things look less like the box of a Playskool toy; it unbreaks the way TR’s recent designs have broken code tags in old comments and articles; it prevents certain page elements from breaking up the formatting of articles too badly; there’s probably a bunch more I don’t recall right now. . . .

Is there a link to the particular script?

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I don’t have too many issues running Ad-Block Plus, but it would be nice to see the discussions back in full-width.

Edit: disregard last transmission. I just read sean’s post… B-)

Hrm.

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Hi, deepsand. Always good to see you.

Yes, the improvements haven’t been improvements for everyone. Apotheon’s measure of using tr-rectify does help.
bitbucket [dot] org [whack] sterlingcamden [whack] tr-rectify

As to Oz. IIRC, one point was that he was quite displeased with the changes at TR. Another was that he was fed up with some commenters with which he was adversarial (including one of the blog authors ↑). Further, at one point he indicated that the Oz Media profile had been handed around and in use by like six people for an unspecified period of time just to troll the forums for kicks.

I have no idea what other issues he may have now, be they personal or with TR. I hope he’s doing well.

I hope you are doing well, too, deepsand.

tr-rectify is now available through the Greasemonkey archives

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If you go to the Greasemonkey tab in the Firefox addons dialog, you can click the “Get user scripts” link to get to the userscripts [dot] org site, which can be used to search for and install tr-rectify. You could also, of course, just go to userscripts [dot] org directly and do a search for tr-rectify or TechRepublic. As of this writing, tr-rectify is one of only two results that comes up in a search for TechRepublic at userscripts [dot] org.

Oh, why would I do it the convenient way?

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😉 No, I hadn’t noticed it was at userscriptsorg. I don’t play around with greasemonkey a whole bunch. I think tr-rectify is the only script besides killfile that I have installed.

Thanks for the heads-up. Good to know the script is available from the GM interface. I’ll be sure to mention this more convenient method of getting the script when suggesting tr-rectify in the future.

It’s a relatively new thing.

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It was . . . what, a couple months ago? . . . that I added it to userscripts. I just decided one day to look into what it takes to get the script on there, and discovered it was easy. Making a Ruby gem turned out to be more work, but I found a nice step-by-step guide to the basics in a book I bought for other reasons, and coupled with online documentation for Ruby gem management I put a gem together. (Now, Sterling and I are trying to fix it up so it’s worth committing to the Rubygems archives for the whole world to use.)

Anyway . . . the reason I started writing this comment was to mention that it hasn’t been on userscripts all that long, so it would be easy for you to not know it was there.

I’ve installed it

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And like the changes, with one exception. My old eyes have trouble with the smaller fonts. I’d like to remove the font changes (I think I remember enough javascript from 13 years ago to make the changes), but what repository is the script in?

"repository"

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What do you mean by “repository” in this context? Are you asking about where it is on your computer when you install it, or where on the Internet the source is stored?

If on your local system, I’m not sure. I don’t use MS Windows enough to know where extensions install. On Unix-like systems, it should be in something like ~/.mozilla/extensions/blah/blah. If on the Internet, it’s stored in Sterling’s Bitbucket account (and seanferd described its location on the Web up this thread a little).

Of course, Firefox allows you to do something like clicking into View > Zoom and selecting the option you want, or using Ctrl and either + or – on the numpad to do it using keyboard shortcuts (or Ctrl and the number 0 to reset the zoom).

@ NickNielsen

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If you do mean “where on the HDD is the script stored”, for Win it is
%userprofile%\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\[i]rnd_string[/i].default\gm_scripts

I played around editing the script in a much earlier iteration. Firebug helps.

@ Apotheon

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See, now I need to find out more about Ruby gems. :^0 I’ve heard mention before, but I don’t really know anything else about Ruby (or writing code in general), although I do enjoy reading about it.

So, I guess I’ll
guides dot rubygems dot org whack what-is-a-gem

Interesting thing about Ruby coding . . .

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I’m actually considering offering my services (professionally) for personal beginner programming instruction. I’ll probably focus a fair bit on Ruby as a pedagogical tool.

Sad To See

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… he’s gone. Will miss his “interjections”.

An era is over.

Something not everyone may have noticed …

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Santee was actually one of the staunchest defenders of TR staffers in the forums when trolls came here and tried to grandstand. While he may have hit TR staffers pretty hard himself, he would never stand for it if someone from the outside came around and started talking unintelligent smack. For that reason alone, he was quite well-liked by the staff.

Santee was kind of like that crazy charismatic uncle who always winked at you and slipped you a $20 bill when you were a kid.

I’ll tell you my favorite Santee story. It was from the first TR Live event in 2009 when we celebrated the 10th anniversary of TechRepublic. On Saturday morning after the event had ended a lot of us met at Lynn’s Paradise Cafe for breakfast (it’s a nationally famous breakfast spot in Louisville). For most of it I was sitting next to Santee and he noticed me quietly making sure all the tables got their orders, seeing that everyone was settled, checking on the people who brought their families, and eventually collecting the check. When I finally sat down for a few moments and quit coordinating, Santee leaned over and whispered, “I forgot that unlike most of us, you’re still on the clock.” I smiled.

RIP, Santee.

You know, Jason…..

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I remember that.

Bless you, too.

GG

I noticed that you are right Jason

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He was willing to slap the TR staff with a stick from time to time, but let someone else dis TR and he was on it.

Santee,
Welder
Curmudgeon
Funny Guy
Very Serious Guy
Linguist
Crazy Man
All this and more, thanks Richard, for nearly 5 years you gave TR a good ride.

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp321/michaeljay2009/santee.jpg

The artwork

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is that of his daughter. 🙂

I have not yet recieved permission to say that

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or even post it, but, yes it is.

It’s pretty amazing-looking, even in a photo

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I notice it’s off the wall, so to speak. Very complex shadows.

Art of the natural world

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I have been amazed by it, watching it progress over the years. I like how she works with natural themes, adding what she calls “nature that springs from the psyche.”

Thought as a fungal infection…

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That is as unexpected as it is apt.
And that combination (unexpected/apt) is what art is when it is best.
I love that in art, that it can send us reeling, spinning through spaces that defy prediction, and yet are full of the deja vu feeling of “I always knew this, and never knew it”.

I agree, Ansu

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That is what drew me to Lea’s work originally. I am art-challenged, yet I got it.

Art work

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Lea is a professor at UNM in the art department:

http://www.leaandersonart.com/

Rich helped her with some of the metal pieces.

It was clear how proud he was of his daughter…

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If you talk to her, could you tell her that even people who never met him could tell he thought his daughter was amazing, veritably beaming when he wrote of her achievements.

Absolutely, Ansu

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I have been and she is appreciative of all the comments.

Something from Lea about her art

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“I am into the idea that thought can behave as a fungus or a virus- I recently read an article about “Memes” which I shared with my Dad. I’m sure he already knew of this concept, but I wanted to relate it to my artwork- that an idea or a bit of information can certainly mimic a virus or a living organism. I am very interested in the similarity between systems that seemingly, have nothing to do with one another. I sense that there is a pattern or a system in all things, whether they be physical, emotional, ideological, or otherwise.

This is where it would get tricky with Dad, because he would want me to define all of those terms and then re-think my concept, but, man, my brain would just get tired so fast! I think I just processed things differently.”

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/What-Defines-a-Meme.html

Ha!

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I did think of memes when I looked at her artwork.
I have a thing for Emergence… something that happens in cognition where a mess of observations, perceptions, assumptions, deductions and inductions suddenly achieve a critical mass, then coalesce into something that transcends them and encompasses them.
It is related to abductive reason, but it happens subconsciously.
I think Richard had a thing for something similar, he referred to it with a word from sanskrit or hindi or urdu, it escapes me at the moment, but it refers to an insight which, once achieved, changes one’s perspective on everything. I always mix it up with Utnapishtim, which is an entirely different kettle of fish 😉 That, again, is due to another word from sanskrit Richard would occasionally use; Upanishads, an ancient scripture about the oneness of all (which ties in with Speaking of God 😉 )
I think that often when Richard would instruct people to run some thought through again, he was referring to such a realization being “close”. In that respect he showed incredible tact, the realization would not be achieved if he had pointed the way any more directly. Of course, I think that often “close” could mean that it’s a few years out 😉

I asked Lea Anderson if

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it was ok to lift the picture that I posted above and this was her reply:

Hi Mike: I would love you to have it!! Thank you SO much for all the TR dialogue- it is a treasure to me to read it. I miss him so much and thank you for honoring him with your writings. You all meant so much to him and he loved all the action and challenge he found in the TR community.

Sincerely,
Lea (Santeewelding JR)

Emergence…

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ignore the idiot typo in the song title.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szNXh2xYeIQ

santeewelding, JR

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:^0
You go, girl!

Thanks for that.

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Seems I’m completely ignorant of Lea’s art, and I wasn’t having much luck with the search engines.

edit: Stunning!

He took care of his "employees"…

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Seeing as we all worked for Santee, as hard a taskmaster as he could be, always expecting our very best, he’d not stand for people off the street harassing his staff.
😀 😀 🙁

Please pass on my condolences to his family

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It was my great pleasure to have shared a breakfast conversation with Santee several years back at the TR Gathering. I found him to be a witty man with a great observation of humanity’s foibles. I called him friend and am sad to hear of his passing.

A friend recently remarked that we spend the first half of our lives building relationships and spend the last half learning to say goodbye.

Santee will be missed.

Gods of us all.

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If nothing else, his departure is attracting some old hands to honor him.

Old TR Hands

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I would explain that it’s been my health issues, father’s passing and new role at the office that has been keeping me not as frequent as the old days in my commentary; but, those are just excuses. I’ve learned over this last year that I have far too frequently focused on my career and technology and ignored my relationships, with family and friends.

I would like to think I am getting wiser as I age; but, I believe that I am really not lying to myself about my own nature and the world a lot less.

RIP Santee…

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while you may be absent, you will never be forgotten. Would have been a great pleasure to have met you in person. The world was a brighter place with you present within it.

On a further note within this post. Has anyone thought of archiving all of his posts? Or, do I need to do that manually? Will be interesting to re-read many of them to see what I missed. And I know there are many things there.

That would be fun

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You can click on his profile, then click on view all next to the list of recent posts… then you get to a full listing, there are over ten thousand of them 😉
How about a “magic santee-ball”… is there an app for that? Should be, in trowth.

Oh my, yes.

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Hook up wget with a randomizer and a UI.

Because no matter what you were thinking about originally, any random post by santee would somehow apply and maybe take you in a new direction, wouldn’t it?

santee welding

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condolances to the family and friends. he had a way with the language

A masterpiece of understatement

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To say Santee had a way with the language is to say Michael Jordan has a way with a basketball…

Maybe more,

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He had his way with language. 😉 As with metals.

Ha! No text.

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😀 🙁 😀

Thank you all

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My brother, Dick (the name I knew him as from childhood before it migrated from a formal noun all the way to a verb) lived for this forum. I’ve seen him compose his submissions. Sometimes it would take hours. Even He would have to refer to His ever-present New Oxford American Dictionary every now and then and use a definition if He agreed with it. When he was ready to launch that economy of words containing so much thought I almost felt the urge to move my chair back a little before he hit the “send” button.

Yeah, I’ll miss him too. – Santee’s brother, Doug

That makes a lot of sense

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If he used the American Version of the Dictionary.

I got most of his comments easily but a few did kind of confuse me as I’m assuming that the meanings that I know are slightly different with me being in AU. 😉

However saying that Santee will be missed very much here and TR is never going to be the same again.

Cheers and my Deepest Sympathetics for your loss

Col

He was a many-skilled man with the mind of a genius.

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A modern Plato combined with the pen of Shakespeare brought to the arc of a master of metallurgy. Would the cuts and seams know their lineage? Yes, I think Dick could have explained it to them..

He sure was deliberate.

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Your use of capitalization is fitting, considering how it all began 😉
http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-209121-2155996
I have decided to learn deliberation, now that I have no source of deliberate to go to anymore.
Dick (I tried to fit him with a nickname, “the Dean” – but it didn’t really stick :p ) was one of the first people I encountered when I started posting on the TR boards. Inside a day I had become embroiled in a “discussion” with what I perceived as Santee and Apotheon both on the other side… as you can imagine, that wasn’t an easy experience 😉
It might be on account of years spent on humanities, but I could always tell he was saying something. I know when people are BS’ing, saying words without meaning… but Santee never came across as that, not even when I had no idea of even the ballpark of what it was he was saying. I could never shield my ego behind an assumption that there was nothing to get 😉
Your brother’s deliberation always impressed me. And behind that, shining through it, there was always genuine human warmth. It was never cold calculation.
These few years I’ve spent in his company (it works in all meanings of that word!) have affected me deeply.

I looked forward to reading those posts

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Over the years, his choice of words made me smile, frown, laugh, curse, reflect, research, and even ask ‘wtf?’, sometimes all in the same post. Trying to understand his posts made me think. I’ll probably miss that most of all.

If wealth could be measured by the number of lives touched, Richard was a very wealthy man.

My sincerest condolences to you and the family.

Thank you Doug

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May your memories of your brother be a blessing to you.

The very best to you and yours.

Thank you, Doug.

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Thanks for sharing this image with us.

I’d like to offer my condolences to you as well. Take care.

Thank you

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VERY early in your brother’s time here, i caught his astoundingly transparent within the range of what he expressly wished to convey and that which he gifted to us all… enigma intact.

I remember him as a “Star Belly Sneech”, recalling that he could love those “who had none upon thars”.

More importantly, I recall him as my friend.

I will never forget that he told me- years ago- that I was easy to love. I hold that dear to me.

I hold you and your family in prayer. So little for so great. Still, all that I have.

I, don’t know what to say.

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I just dropped in to see what was happening… I never expected this. 🙁

See what happens

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Because you go away Martin?

Now repent your ways and never do this again. I don’t want to be the next one to go because of you. :p

Col

I’ll try not to

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do it again 😀

Col, you be nice!

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Don’t make me be stern with you. I can be, you know.

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On the grounds that it will Incriminate me. :p

Col

That which does not incriminate

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Tends to incinerate.

Just sayin…

Well what can I say Tig’s?

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Many years ago I was accused by members of the Medical Profession of having Excessively Flowery Speech. Apparently that is some sort of sign of Mental Problems [i]According to those 3 people at least all of whom have since been locked away and undergone intense therapy.[/I]

But since that time I’ve tried very hard to [b]Talk Normal[/b] Richard on the other hand took things to the extreme which I always got a good laugh out of. 😉

But I do take a lot of pleasure in using the wrong words in a lot of my written responses. So instead of Education Purposes, I’ll write Educating Porpoises which Richard got a great laugh out of. 😀

Col

I’m particularly fond

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of your use of [b]defiantly[/b].

I get a good chuckle…

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…every time I see it. 🙂

(((hugs)))

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Life just whips around behind the corner and floors you.

I get it.

Sucks.

(((hugs)))

*sigh*

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I keep wondering when he knew.

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In hindsight, I realize there were many signs.
He set his affairs in order.
Making things easier for his next of kin, I imagine, reducing the amount of stuff they’d have to handle, afterwards.
He even dropped a hint or two, here.
He would occasionally call me prescient, but I didn’t see it… or I saw, but I didn’t understand.

Do you remember when he posted this?
http://clarrissegill.com/videoclips/amazing_grace.php

For Santeewelding, who wrote with amazing grace.

I couldn’t knoww about that, but

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he seemed to me to be a fellow who always had his affairs in order.

I’m suddenly reminded of his foot injury and the bathroom escapades discussion, for some reason.

For good reason.

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Cupboard wasn’t there, remember?

LOL

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I see what you did there.

It works from a distance, but up close I had to squint [i]really[/i] hard. :^0

He lives on

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truly, in how we all talk, at times 🙂

Hints, you wake a memory..

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I remember suddenly a post he made in September and how it puzzled me, but I let it fade in my memory, you bring it back to the front, I found it again.

It is less puzzling now if I am to assume that he knew his condition then;
http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-348500-3501578

I think so

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I hadn’t made that connection, you’re right – and more perceptive than I.
But as far as I can tell it might be upwards of six months.

I think he found out

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about the end of September, beginning of October.

Earlier than that

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He knew something was amiss in July, but dismissed formal diagnosis at the time.

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