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Sen John Kerry should be ashamed of himself

By jdclyde ·
Sen John Kerry should be ashamed of himself.

On "Face the Nation", Sunday December 4th, 2005, the Senator took to that airwaves accusing the US military of acts of terrorism against "kids and children, you know, women" and that it is the Iraqies that should be terrorising them instead.

"And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the--of--the historical customs, religious customs. Whether you like it or not...

SCHIEFFER: Yeah.

Sen. KERRY: ...Iraqis should be doing that."
(end of page 4, beginning of page 5)



This is the man that was ALMOST President of the most powerful Country in the world? How is that for a scary though? And to think we MAY run again in 2008?

Read the interview if you didn't see it on TV before responding. Would hate to see people accusing anyone else of taking things out of context.

Do you think Sen. John Kerry is way out of line and should apologyze to the US forces, or is he stating something that is true but a hard pill to swollow?

Full transcript here in PDF format.
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/face_120405.pdf

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by HiTowerUK In reply to Reason? How about exterm ...

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear! You forgot number 3. They didn't hate Americans until you stuck your noses into Iraq, in what is now clearly, an unjustified invasion NOT an excercise in anti-terrorism! You are right, Saddam is a supporter of terrorism, there is no doubt about that. He has ruled iraq with fear and human rights abuses for years but, let's be frank here, Al Queda links into Iraq have not been as obvious as links into Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan and other countries. Are you proposing to invade them in the name of anti-terrorism as well in your vain attempts to wipe out world terrorism? How many times does it need to be said; Terrorists are not militarily precise armies, they are ordinary (but extreme) groups who will stop at nothing for their cause. They will never lose the "war" just as much as the world will never win it because it is not a proper war. We need negotiation in place; we need to understand others cultures and respect them, but most of all, we need to understand why they hate western civilisatrion so much! No one in their right might would disgaree with you that terrorism is an atrocity that needs wiping out, but you cannot be naive enough to think that it can be removed "summarily and swiftly"? These people are cowards; they are faceless thugs. They will never be a visible enemy. They don't share our values for human life and they are everywhere. Terrorists are in the streets of London and on the streets of New York. They are already there with you in the US as they are here with us in the UK.

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Negotiation?

by jdclyde In reply to

with people that you have already admitted "don't share our values for human life".

The extremists are looking to make what is called a "Muslim super State", and eventually globalization of the radical extremists way of life.

You can not reason with an insane person. It is crazy of you to think you can.

And no, you can not use the cop-out of blaming Bush for this. This has been going on for decades and decades.

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Negotiation?

by Montgomery Gator In reply to

These terrorists do not see reason and cannot be negotiated with, they want to see the end of Western Democracy and Capitalism. I understand that the UK was able to negotiate peace with the IRA after years of conflict, but Al-Qaeda is not the IRA. The IRA could be reasoned with to join the political process instead of engaging in terrorism, but Al-Qaeda will not see the light of reason. Al-Zarqawi and Al-Qaeda hated the USA before the war, they are now concentrating their efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan. The war did not create terrorists, that is a feeble attempt to justify their actions, it seems.

I do agree that it will be a long struggle against them, that we may not ever wipe them out completely, that they are cowards and faceless thugs. However, we can do whatever we can to reduce their numbers, attack them wherever they can be found, instead of waiting for them to attack. It will be a long struggle, but to give up and give in would be much worse. True, terrorists have attacked outside of Iraq and Afghanistan after 9-11, including London, Madrid, Indonesia, and other places, but these attacks would be more frequent and stronger all over the world if they were not concentrating in Iraq and Afghanistan. The war has concentrated the terrorists, making it easier to find them and destroy them.

Disclaimer: I am in no way an IRA supporter, and considered the actions that the UK took against them to be completely justified. I am just glad that they saw reason and put down their arms and negotiate with Ireland, the Ulster Protestants, and the UK, that it would be better for everyone involved to try to settle things peacefully.

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Ummm

by jdmercha In reply to

"They didn't hate Americans until you stuck your noses into Iraq,"

I think you'll find that they have hated the US and the UK after we supported the establishment of Israel.

Before that you will will find that they have zero tolerance for non-muslims. (Keep in mind we're talking about the Muslim extermists.)

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No not having that

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Reason? How about exterm ...

You want to kick 'em in the nuts, because you don't like them fine, because they don't like you, fine. Don't try and justify it with this sort of thing though.
The UK has supported terrorists, so has the US, course we called them freedom fighters, so we could stay on the side of the righteous.

You can't beat terrorism by going around sticking guns in peoples faces, you've got to take away the reason for the conflict. Difficult to impossible I know, but much more likely to succeed than invading the rest of the planet.

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The reason?

by TonytheTiger In reply to No not having that

The "reason" is the mere existence of the parties. Ultimately one or the other must be destroyed. It is the way huimanity has always been, and will always be. There's nothing really to do except... choose a side.

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Not having that either

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to The reason?

The reason is ignorance always has been always will be.
What side, one wants me to kneel to poverty igorance and Allah, the other to penury, ignorance and God. F***'em both.
I've been poor, the choice of God, Allah or the Jungle god Umbumweh doesn't impingeon my conscience, but no way an I doing homage to some **** benefitting from keeping me ignorant.

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Not only is it bad what he says about US troops

by Montgomery Gator In reply to Sen John Kerry should be ...

Not only is it bad what he is saying here, accusing US troops of unproved acts of terrorism, he is saying the Iraqi forces should be doing it instead, at least that is what his reply sounds like. So, why would it be OK, according to Kerry, for the Iraqi army to do this stuff, but not the US forces?

Kerry is going back to his treasonous accusations he did during the "Winter Soldier" hearings of bad-mouthing our forces in the field with unsubstantiated charges of atrocities.

Kerry should apologize for this statement and his "Genghis Khan" statement he made during the Vietnam War.

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Terrorists

by mjd420nova In reply to Sen John Kerry should be ...

Terrorists have families too, and should they
hide among them, then steps must be talen to root them out, at what ever costs must be
undertaken. In this country, if a criminal is hiding at home or anywhere, do we knock??
Indeed we do, and VERY loudly too. Why is
this any different over there?

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Naivety

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Sen John Kerry should be ...

One sending a polite note requesting an appointment for a raid might be self defeating.

From the accounts I've read US and UK forces are kicking doors in and taking names, however expecting an Iraqi to be happy about several blokes with guns smashing their way into his house and running round shouting might make us as naive as the senator.

The stupidest thing he said though is iraqis (police?) should be doing it. So terrorising women and kids is OK if you are from the same country?. Man's a complete twonk.

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