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Software firms want copyright law rewrite

By Jaqui ·
A group of large software companies has taken the first step toward inciting a tussle with the telecommunications industry by asking Congress to rewrite copyright law so alleged Internet pirates can be more easily targeted by lawsuits.

The group of companies, which is known as the Business Software Alliance, counts as members Microsoft, Autodesk, Borland, Intuit, Sybase and Symantec, among others. The group released a general outline of its suggestions on Thursday in a white paper that effectively describes its legislative proposals for 2005. The companies say they fear a revenue-sapping future in which software programs are traded as frequently and readily on peer-to-peer networks as MP3 music files are today."

interesting concept, doubt even clarifying the laws will stop the piracy though.

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the numbers

by Jaqui In reply to I find it strange

since hand to hand is far fewer than connecting to a p2p network, they didn't worry about it.
1 person can now give out millions of copies instead of hundreds.

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They had no idea

by Oz_Media In reply to I find it strange

The internet and P2P sharing is an example of just how much is traded,
I agree that it is far wider spread now than in the days of C-64 software, which was popular but not as widespread internationally as P2P sharing is.

The same issue with VHS and Cassette tapes was no different. The difference is, you only need ot do a quick search to see just how widespread file sharing of a particular file is. IN the 80's, it there was no real way of telling how much was being copied, they knew they were taking SOME form of a hit, but it was impossible to compensate the media corporations as they simply couldn't determin ehow much business was lost due to popularity drops compared to people copying and sharing tapes and videos.

P2P it is a visual scare, they are now trying to determine just HOW much revenue they are losing, yet it is still just a rough guess and therefore cannot be compensated through legal measures.

Artists lose popularity fast in a manufactured industry, who's to say it wsa due to file sharing , popularity dropping or just the poor quality of music being produced.

I rarely buy CD's anymore unless by a favored artist when they release new material. When I do download music, I have an extensive CD collection but when running out it is easier to download it to my walkman than to find the disc and rip it.

In this case, nobody is losing any revenue, I DO own a copy, file sharing is more of a convenience.

Given THAT apsect, even if they could place a number on th elosses due to file sharing,who's to say what percentage of those people don't already own a copy or will go and buy w=one oce the track is heard?

It just goes in circles, since the multimillions collected in surcharges added to CD's were found to be in limbo, the courts arent very sympathtic anymore and are hesitant to take it at face value as they did before.

It is all hype, nobody is losing anything but the record companies, they are also responsible fo ra quickly diminishing market in part due to P2P but moreso due to the pathetic quality of music they expect people to buy nowdays.

People are catching on fast to the bastardized industry out here and are refusing to buy an album for the one song that is overplayed and over marketed, only to find out the rest of the disc is junk or resampled music.

When I was a teen, we could record albums and trade tapes no problem. You would also go and buy the album though, they came with books, posters, liner notes,etc. and a good 45 minutes of quality material.

Remeber the posters that came with Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon? or the GIANT rolling paper that cam in Cheech and Chong's Big Bamboo album?

That's another quick point, why should I go and buy my 10th, 11th or 12th copy of The Wall just because it has a new medium? Roger Waters and David Gilmore aren't losing any sleep over it, just the label selling the back catalogue.

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by house In reply to They had no idea

The music industry is the only one who seems to be crying though. Other industries have left the fight to alternative tactics - other than legal.

This is a generalization of course, afterall ERIFLLEH - aka Hellfire went down to serve 4 years penn. What a joke. I still don't believe that prison term was warranted.

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but the other tatics

by Jaqui In reply to Understood

aren't very sucessfull.
I have seen software the requires hardware dongles to work that has been cracked to work without it.

license manager software broken.

the honour method is effectively useless.

silly thing is, even the commercial apps for linux I have only seen one that was cracked to work without being legal copy, and that came from cracking the windows version of same app I bet.
so, for reducing license violations at this time, the most effective means is to be coding open source os software.

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by jardinier In reply to Software firms want copyr ...

Hands up anyone who has ticked the "I accept" box and has felt honor-bound not to use the same item of software on more than one computer at a given time.

Come on now, let me see all those hands raised ....

I'm still waiting ....

[Naturally I am referring to individuals, not companies].

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OH well,

by Oz_Media In reply to EULA

I would have raised my hand fo rthe company software buy not my own. Everything I own is paid for, usually not by me but I have all the originals registered on my notebook.

Now when it comes to company software, I have used stuff form Kazaa, Fosi Appz, cracked demos you name it, when I have a job to do I just do it. If I need to keep the software, I thn emake the case that I am using a pirate copy and if the company need smore work deon with it they must purchase it, of course along with a fully licenced copy for my notebook. :)

I remote managed two failry large networks last year that were both simply a software testing ground and games sever for me to enjoy at my will. They didn't expect me to do testing on MY equipment did they?

I found that as soon as I installed someaddictive games on the managers PC, he had no problem supporting my work, as long as I got a good 2 or 3 hour game fired up everyday for him and the sales reps to kill some time with. I still get called at lunch sometimes to log in and get a game of Ghost Recon or Cal of Duty going. Oh yeah, I no longer have admin rights, supposedly.

They never removed my rights from the file or email server, they know they still need me when the Turks F-Up. :)

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This is permited now

by dafe2 In reply to EULA

Most EULAS allow this now, for business software. One install at work & one at home.

About time too.

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by Jaqui In reply to EULA

far more pirated software in business than in homes.
far cheaper to use illegal copies or cracked copies than to buy licenses for every workstation in the company.

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Common Jaqui

by dafe2 In reply to companies...

Did you go to a Bar for lunch today?

Your kidding right?

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bar? ME?

by Jaqui In reply to Common Jaqui

nope, since been sober for 20 years.

but yet, it is common for companies to use pirated software, specially small companies.

more so in smaller communities than larger.

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