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System restore problem, among other things

By lord_alphathon_iv ·
Hi all,

I noticed today that I cannot create restore points on my main computer. The automatic creation doesn't seem to be working either, which I noticed when, probably about a week or two ago, I had to boot into safe mode due to a screw up causing windows to blue screen on booting (which afaik is completely unrelated to my current problem, the cause of which was a network bridge between my wireless adapter and a virtualbox host interace), but while there, I noticed I had no restore points, which I put down to the recent install of SP1, but when I tried to create one today, there were still none.

When I try to create a restore point, it sits with a loading bar for ages saying "Creating a restore point...", then after about 10 minutes, stops with the following error message:

The restore point could not be created for the following reason:
The creation of a shadow copy has timed out. Try again this operation (0x81000101)
Please try again.


While not the same problem, I am also having problems with installers which may be relevent. A lot of installers (not all, but most) take an incredibly long time to complete. They usually sit at 0% for ages (anywhere from 5 minutes to half an hour) then begin to actually install, but more slowly than you'd expect usually, especially with the specs of my system. I don't know if it is related, but as the problem with the creation of a shadow copy is a timeout I thought I'd mention it. Also, if anyone knows how to solve it then please share as it rather annoying (nothing more really, but still...).

Also, I have noticed recently that my CPU usage has gone through the roof. Normally after startup it remains stable at between 0% and 5%, when idle. But after a while, the CPU stars getting consumed more and more. According to resource monitor it is mainly being consumed by svchost (at the time of writing, svchost was using 98% of the CPU, when all that was running was this firefox window and background tasks). As you can imagine, this is a little concerning. It doesn't seem to be affecting the performance though. These figures are coming from task manager, resource monitor and the screen on my Logitech G15 Keyboard

I have tried google for all 3 of these problems, but to no avail, and virus and malware scans all come out clean.

Other possibly relevent system details:
OS - Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 32-Bit
CPU - Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4GHz (Q6600)
RAM - 4GB DDR2 (I am aware that 32-bit OSs cannot utilise it all)
MOBO - Asus P5K-Premium

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No better

by lord_alphathon_iv In reply to Download your Vista recov ...

Is that not just the same as the install disk, except it can't install, i.e. no more useful than the install disk(see previous post). The only function I can see being remotelly useful in this case is the startup repair, which might find the source of the problem if I'm lucky. Also as a side note, there seems little point in posting a link to the x64 recovry disk when mine is 32-bit (i.e. x86). I'll give startup repair a try (it can't hurt now can it) from my install disk, but I really don't see it helping very much (if it does though, then we-hey)

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Put your Glasses on....

IF you looked at the site properly you would see the link BELOW the 64 bit link, this link will be for your system. :)
Download it and give it a try, you will not know until you start to do something positive and get going with this issue you have. A good start will be to copy the hdd in question, that way you keep all of your data, while correcting the other hdd.

Please post back if you have any more problems or questions.

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Oops

by lord_alphathon_iv In reply to No better

OK, sorry about that. I have to mention though, the reason I didn't see it is because I didn't go to the link. Why? Because I have the Vista instal DVD and this is essentially a cut down version of that - it offers no additional functionality - it is designed for people who bought a PC from a company which didn't supply them with the original disk and therefore don't have the option to use it. I on the other hand built my PC and therefore have an instal disk. Quite appart from that, there are no useful options (startup repair didn't help by the way), so unless you can suggest some command line tests or something (which I could do in windows anyway surely), it does not help my problem.

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See if this helps

by Jacky Howe In reply to System restore problem, a ...

To open Reliability Monitor in Microsoft Management Console
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Click Start, click in the Start Search box, type perfmon, and press ENTER.
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In the navigation tree, expand Reliability and Performance, expand Monitoring Tools, and click Reliability Monitor.
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Additional considerations
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You can open Reliability Monitor in its own window by typing perfmon /rel and pressing ENTER in the Start Search box or at a command prompt.
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Use Reliability Monitor to Troubleshoot
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Reliability Monitor shows you your system stability history at a glance and lets you see details on a day-by-day basis about events that impact reliability. This topic helps you understand the results and take steps to improve reliability based on what you learn.
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System Stability Chart
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Reliability Monitor maintains up to a year of history for system stability and reliability events. The System Stability Chart displays a rolling graph organized by date.
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The top half of the System Stability Chart displays a graph of the Stability Index. In the lower half of the chart, five rows track Reliability Events that either contribute to the stability measurement for the system or provide related information about software installation and removal. When one or more Reliability Events of each type are detected, an icon appears in the column for that date.
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For Software Installs and Uninstalls, an Information icon indicates a successful event of that type occurred, or a Warning icon indicates a failure of that type occurred.
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For all other Reliability Event types, an Error icon indicates a failure of that type occurred.
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If more than 30 days of data are available, you can use the scroll bar at the bottom of the System Stability Chart to find dates outside the visible range.
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Viewing historical data
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Reliability Monitor displays the most recent date's data by default.
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To view data for a specific date, click the column for that date in the System Stability Chart or click the drop-down date menu to select a different date.
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To view all available historical data, click the drop-down date menu and click Select all.
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If more than 30 days of data are available, you can also use the scroll bar at the bottom of the System Stability Chart to browse dates outside the visible range.
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System Stability Report
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The System Stability Report helps you identify changes that contribute to a lower Stability Index by identifying Reliability Events. Click the plus sign in the title bar of each Reliability Event category to view events.
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If you have clicked on a date column in the System Stability Chart, the System Stability Report will display events from that date. To see all events or choose a date outside the visible range in the System Stability Chart, click the date drop-down menu in the top right corner of the window and use the calendar, or select All dates.
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Reliability Events
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The Reliability Events recorded in the System Stability Report are as follows:
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System Clock Changes
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Significant changes to the system time are tracked in this category.
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http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc748864.aspx
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Two brief thoughts

by seanferd In reply to System restore problem, a ...

Does Vista have an Event Viewer with which to check your event logs? Application, security, and system logs are all very useful for detecting problems and any preceeding events leading up to them.

Do you have both an encrypted drive, partition, or files (most particularly the OS or the paging file) and an indexing service turned on?

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by lord_alphathon_iv In reply to Two brief thoughts

There is an event viewer, But I don't know how useful it will be as nothing actually stops working - it just never finishes whatever it's doing with the cryptographic service, for both sys restore and installations (well, I say never, I meennot for a long time, like 40 mins or something, by which timesys restore has timed out, but installs still work).

As far as I know, I dont have any encrypted files etc, but I do have indexing on. I suppose it's worth a try to turn off indexing though, if that alone could help.

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Working With System Restore in Windows Vista

Just like Microsoft Windows XP, the System Restore utility has been included in Windows Vista to enable you to roll back your PC to a previously known good working condition. The system restore process does not make any changes to your personal files, such as your documents, presentation, worksheets, and Internet favorites. The process just reverts the changes in the system configuration and removes any programs installed after the time when the restore point you are reverting to was created. By default, the System Restore utility continuously monitors your system and automatically creates restore points periodically. The utility also provides the option to create manual restore points.
Enable and Disable System Restore
By default, the System Restore utility is enabled on your Windows Vista computer. If you want to disable the utility, open the System Properties dialog box by selecting System from the Control Panel, and then open the System Protection tab. On this tab, clear the check boxes of the drive(s) on which you want to disable system restore. A message will display Are you sure you want to turn System restore off, select the Turn System restore off button to disable System Restore for the specific drive.
In Windows Vista, at least 300 MB of space is required to save each restore point and you can allot up to 15% of space on each hard disk drive with System Restore enabled. The number of restore points that can exist on the system depends on the drive space you allot to the utility and the amount and frequency of changes to be saved.
Create Restore Points
There are several activities due to which a restore point is created automatically on your system. Some of these activities are:
When you start your system for the first time after installation.
After every 24 calendar or computer uptime hours.
When a new application is installed by using the InstallShield or Windows Installer utilities.
Before an automatic Windows update.
Before performing a system restore.
When unsigned drivers are installed on the system.
Before restoring from a backup.
Although automatic restore points are created for several activities, there are some activities that do not trigger automatic system restore. For instance, if you are installing an application that does not use InstallShield or Windows Installer for installation, no automatic restore point will be created. Therefore, in such situations, you will have to create a manual restore point.
To create a manual restore, on the System Protection tab of the System Properties dialog box, select the Create button. Enter a name that describes the reason for creating the restore point, and the select Create. Finally, select OK to complete the restore point creation process.
Creating restore points before installing any new installation or major system configuration change is useful:
To undo changes done by incomplete installations.
To revert to original settings if an error is displayed during the installation or configuration changes.
When the uninstall process using the Add or Remove Programs utility is not working.
When your system or the application does not work appropriately due to erroneous installation.
Perform System Restore
To perform system restore, open the System Restore in Windows Vista, by selecting the Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Restore command. Or, you may select the System Restore button located on the System Protection tab of the System Properties dialog box.
On the Choose restore point screen, select your restore point from the menu. Here, if you want to display older restore points, select the Show Restore Points Older Than 5 Days check box. After selecting your restore point, select the Next button to continue.
If you have multiple drives on your PC, select the drives that you want to restore, and select the Next button to continue. Your system now prepares the computer for restore and restarts. After the restart, a message is displayed that informs you that the restoration process is complete. Select OK to close the dialog box. Your system is now restored to your selected restore point.
You can use Regcure:
http://www.regcure.com/
This comes with a lot of options of which i found very good especially the restore point function. Yes i do use this on my computers because it makes (when run) a restore point, where other software of similar makes do not have, so this might be a good option for you.
The choice is yours though.

Please post back if you have any more problems or questions.

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