Tarting Up!

By VAR1016 ·
I am about to "tart up" my computers; the newer one gets more memory, a better graphics card and a faster processor.

This means I shall have a spare dual core processor. For the old computer (2003) I have ordered a new motherboard: Asus M2V-MX SE ( ) This accommodates the processor and the ram I have to hand (2GB). I also have a 40GB SATA hard drive coming. I will use the GEForce 8400GS graphics card from the other machine. Sorry about the long introduction; my question: will the Asus motherboard also recognise the old 40GB IDE hardrive that is in the old computer? I am interested in trying to run both hard drives with a view to "having a look" at Vixta.

Thank you


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RE: Password

by The Scummy One In reply to I am wondering

If it is a recovery cd for an HP product, likely it will not work properly unless it detects the HP product for which it was intended for.
I have not tried doing things in this fashion before. But I want to check, does the CD have an admin password listed on it?
My HP media center PC has 2 administrator accounts. Administrator and HP_Administrator. Both were installed by default from their image.
I wonder if it is trying (by recovery) to use HP_Administrator instead of Administrator?

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by VAR1016 In reply to Blank PW

Hello and thanks again. I have searched the CD (including hidden files) but HP_Administrator doesn't appear. Would you know where I might locate this password?

I am trying to see (following a suggestion by OH Smeg) if I can use the XP-Pro disc to upgrade the XP-Home I have installed on a spare drive; if I can make it work then I shall upgrade my C drive version.


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One would think that

by The Scummy One In reply to HP_Adminstrator

only an upgrade version would work. However Oh Smeg probably has much more information on this than I do. As I said, I have never tried this before.
The closest thing I have done to this would be to 'upgrade' NT4 SP4 to NT4 SP3 to fix problems.
I am sure that it would work though, from a standard XP CD, but not sure from a vendor CD.

What happens if you install outright from the XP Pro CD?

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Full Installation

by VAR1016 In reply to HP_Adminstrator

Hello again.

I have done several full installations from this disc, and superficially it seems to work. However last time I did it it seemed to be a bit troublesome. I think I will attempt another full installation, although knowing how to perform the upgrade if possible could be very useful.


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First, nuke the drive.

by The Scummy One In reply to HP_Adminstrator

not just formatting it from XP. Get a boot cd or boot floppy and wipe it completely clean. Just to make sure that no remnants are left behind.

After that, then install the system, and when prompted, add the SATA drivers

After that install the the motherboard drivers and other drivers that the system should need. Then run MS updates (such as SP2) handy. Install them all and reboot. Install an antivirus and latest update(s), and then connect to the Internet and update anything else needed.

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All Good!

by VAR1016 In reply to HP_Adminstrator

Thanks Scummy

I have already done the reinstallation. I used Paragon to format the drive, and annoyingly XP Pro is running perfectly and fast too. It's a real Grrr thing, because it is the sixth time I have installed it (formatting the drive every time) and this time of course it has t o be on the I drive rather than the C drive. I'll wait a day or two to check and if all is OK, I'll re-arrange the HDD as the novelty of reinstalling programs is wearing off!

Best wishes and thanks again


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Well I can only speak from past experience with M$ Install Disc's

by OH Smeg In reply to Tarting Up!

When you run the Repair/Upgrade Option from a M$ Install CD you do not get asked for a Password. However there is a Master Password that can be set when you initially install the OS on both Home & Pro versions on the same Page where you enter the Computers Owners Name and so on.

I've only ever seen the Master Password Prompt when one has been previously used on the Install. As the process is exactly the same for both a Repair & upgrade I have done this many times in the past without a single problem. So if you didn't add a Master Password when you installed Home it has to be something specific to the Install Media you are using. If there had of been any problems with this process I would never have suggested it in the first place.

Hope that is useful to you.


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Master Password Prompt: $64,000 Question

by VAR1016 In reply to Well I can only speak fro ...

Hello again and thanks once more for your input.

On the Home version I had installed as an experiment, I had not registered a password, so I went back and registered one in User Account and again in the Bios. This didn't work. This was a clean install on a formatted drive too. The big question is: is it possible by some jiggery-pokery to get round this one? It would be nice to be able to use the pro install disc for upgrading purposes.

Finally I should say that the latest Pro install is running perfectly - yes including number lock and keyboard - bizarre!

All the best,

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Paul it really sounds as if Windows is out to get you

by OH Smeg In reply to Master Password Prompt: $ ...

Having this many errors on the one computer with the same install Disc must be a nightmare.

All I can think of here is that you have a Hardware issue that needs looking into. Have you got a copy of the Ultimate Boot CD that you can use to test the hardware? If not it is available here for free download

It really sounds as if you have some kind of Intermittent occurring at least on the Install so a Deep Test seems to be called for where you can torture the hardware into giving up the ghost well any bits that are not quite right at least.

Do you really still want to look at Vista? If you do you really are a gluten for punishment aren't you? :^0

All I can say is that this shouldn't be occurring and it's never happened to me previously either though I have had a few Windows Installs go bad and need redoing but not to this extent.

Every time it's happened there has been a problem to so all I can think of here is to look at the hardware involved here and start off with the Power Supply in this computer. If it is a bit old it may be going off slightly and throwing the voltages off causing problems so have you got the ASUS Probe installed and working? Also try blowing out the PS to remove any buildup of dust in it but remember to stop the fan/s spinning or they will generate Power and may hurt things more than they currently are.

Between the Ultimate Boot CD and the ASUS probe to check the Temps and Voltages there isn't much that isn't tested.

Now you need to say really nice things about Windows every day for at least 5 hours or it will continue to hunt you down. Of course you could try shooting your install disc's and starting from scratch all over again just to show them Who's the Boss Not sure if it will help but it will certainly make you feel a lot better.


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The Problem I think...

by VAR1016 In reply to Paul it really sounds as ...

Lies between the chair and the keyboard (although the Administrator password remains a mystery).

I have a fresh install (again!!) of XP Pro and it is perfect. All previous rubbish removed again. Just run Spybot, Lavasoft etc., will now defrag and away we go (I hope).

The motherboard in this computer is not an Asus on (still waiting for that) but an EC Nettle 2. I shall certainly try what you suggest though. Computer was new last October - came with Vista and I am not going back there thank you very much. I now have a very good feeling about XP Pro.

Just looked the Ultimate Boot CD site and found a download. I suppose that I am not likely to do any damage with this resulting in yet another reinstallation?!

Thanks for all your support


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