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June 30, 2010 at 11:14 am #2213259
TechRepublic Tech Conference
Lockedby tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
So here we are at the Hilton Garden Inn “meeting and greeting”. All the best people are here, gleefully anticipating the start of the Conference tomorrow morning. Being REAL geeks, I have the netbook on in the bar I am sitting in and am posting here.
Looking forward to seeing everyone here! Chime in or head for the lobby and say hello!
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June 30, 2010 at 11:19 am #2869541
Not sure about the “real” geek part
by editor’s_response · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
But I’m sitting here with a Ferrari Acer laptop, enjoying meeting and greeting everyone. 🙂
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June 30, 2010 at 11:28 am #2869538
Identity crisis
by Sonja Thompson · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Not sure about the “real” geek part
Editor’s response? What’s up with THAT?! It might make more sense at the cocktail party. 😉
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June 30, 2010 at 11:31 am #2869537
Rub it in, will you?
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
not only are we not there… we’re also apparently the dregs.
But it’s ok, we knew it already, it’s funny coz it’s true.-
June 30, 2010 at 1:00 pm #2869511
I was gonna say…
by boxfiddler · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Rub it in, will you?
[i]all[/i]? :0 🙁
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June 30, 2010 at 7:47 pm #2868706
At least there’s some wiggle room.
by ron k. · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Rub it in, will you?
She didn’t say the best of the best.
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June 30, 2010 at 11:35 am #2869536
Early adopters
by Debra Littlejohn Shinder · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
i’m here, with the rest of the coference “early adopters.” You might know we would all be sitting here, online and logged in, typing on our various laptops, netbooks, phones and iPads.
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June 30, 2010 at 11:47 am #2869531
So…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Early adopters
Nobody is, you know, talking to each other? ?:| :p
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June 30, 2010 at 12:45 pm #2869517
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June 30, 2010 at 1:08 pm #2869509
Clarity…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Of course we are
I understand now.
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June 30, 2010 at 7:50 pm #2868705
Pictures!
by ron k. · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Of course we are
Us po’ folk who couldn’t attend could stand to see some pictures, especially after the bar opens.
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July 1, 2010 at 4:04 am #2868666
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July 1, 2010 at 4:11 am #2868665
Cool about the pictures and video.
by ron k. · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Pictures I got
I hope you find good coffee. I’m working on a third cup of mud just to keep from going back to bed. I have ‘stuff’ to do today.
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June 30, 2010 at 11:49 am #2869528
Geez, would y’all power down for a while?
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Early adopters
Travel thousands of miles and the first thing y’all do is get right back on line. Geez, if you people don’t start mingling, I’m gonna ask Jason to come over and show you he can Twitter from his iPad. That’ll break things up.
And these grapes are sour, too.
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June 30, 2010 at 12:52 pm #2869514
Sour grapes
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Geez, would y’all power down for a while?
If you are really good to me, I will very happily post up video when the bar opens
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June 30, 2010 at 1:15 pm #2869507
Too early.
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Sour grapes
I want the video after the bar’s been open for a few hours.
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June 30, 2010 at 1:21 pm #2868769
But an audio feed of people’s conversations would be great…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Too early.
No need to tell them you’re recording, either… ]:)
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June 30, 2010 at 1:31 pm #2868762
The camera is kinda obvious
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to But an audio feed of people’s conversations would be great…
But you and I are the only ones who needs to know that the microphone is pretty sensitive…
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June 30, 2010 at 1:28 pm #2868764
I have a video camera
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Too early.
And I’m not afraid to use it!
This will be fun!
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July 1, 2010 at 5:02 am #2868653
Not to mention the Web Cam trained on
by hal 9000 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I have a video camera
GG.
A link to that would prove helpful. 😉
Had an entire day sitting in the witness room only to probably be doing the same thing tomorrow. On the Up side I suppose I’ll be able to get my signature witnessed for a Stat Dec easily tomorrow. After all if you can not find a JP or Commissioner of Oaths in the Main Court Building in the state what hope is there of ever finding one. 😀
The reality however is that most likely no one going to talk to me again unless it’s to say [b]No You Can’t do that. [/b] :^0
Col
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July 1, 2010 at 7:31 am #2868606
Remember what happened last year when JD
by darryl~ · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Too early.
tried that….I think it was 4 or 5 of them in his room….I think they were all too sloshed to get it to work correctly 😀
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June 30, 2010 at 11:41 am #2869534
Well!
by tink! · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
I’m not a “real geek” then, because even if I was there, I’d not have a laptop!! :p
Buying 4 computers for the family did not leave room for a laptop for the IT Mom. 🙁
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June 30, 2010 at 12:53 pm #2869512
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June 30, 2010 at 12:40 pm #2869519
Wish I was there…
by cmiller5400 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
I’m sorry that I can’t be there. I was looking forward to meeting everyone in person, then doing some sight seeing. Well, there’s always next year (hopefully)
I’m gonna go pout in the server room now {sniffles} :_|
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June 30, 2010 at 1:25 pm #2868765
(((hugs)))
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Wish I was there…
You should never pout in a server room. You should come here and pout. It’s easier to hug you when you are closer, ya know!
Wish you were here. I’ll pull out the video camera as more folks get here.
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June 30, 2010 at 1:06 pm #2869510
I am bummed
by maecuff · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
That we won’t make it again this year..
Both years, this event has fallen over weekends where other plans had already been made. 🙁
Next year..I’m really hoping that next year is different.
I hope y’all have a great time!
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June 30, 2010 at 1:52 pm #2868756
Save the Date!
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I am bummed
Just block the entire month of June for next year. It will be easier that way.
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June 30, 2010 at 1:21 pm #2868768
:(
by jellimonsta · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
I too am bummed I can’t make it this year. I was planning on it, but then the band got asked to play two outdoor festivals this weekend. They are the last few shows we can play for a while due to the drummer being out of state for a number of months, otherwise I would have blown the shows off.
Hope y’all have a great time together. Stay away from those geese though. 😀-
June 30, 2010 at 2:26 pm #2868750
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July 1, 2010 at 12:42 pm #2868543
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July 1, 2010 at 1:03 pm #2868540
But why not?
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Jelli!!!!!
The geese were QUITE the topic of conversation yesterday. Bet they are again tonight!
We are sorely missing you, Shell. Sending you much love and many hugs.
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July 1, 2010 at 2:17 pm #2868528
ah man…
by shellbot · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to But why not?
dang geese..
i’m there in spirit Tig …
love and hugs to everyone 🙂
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June 30, 2010 at 2:50 pm #2868743
Some of us
by nicknielsen · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
were actually meeting and greeting without the need for geek toys. 😉
Guess I’m not a real geek, after all, darnit! :_|
Then we went to lunch.
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June 30, 2010 at 4:47 pm #2868722
Some of us have to WORK
by old-fart-iv · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
Yes, I’m aware that I’m using a nasty 4-letter word — but that is life 🙂
Hope you all are enjoying and behaving yourselves, maybe next year will be the year I can make it.
I guess I’m not a geek as the last thing I would want to bring to a social event is a laptop or netbook.
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July 1, 2010 at 12:08 am #2868683
Social Event???????????????
by hal 9000 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Some of us have to WORK
Wash your mouth out it’s not a Social Event it’s a Tech Conference. 😉
Col
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July 1, 2010 at 10:06 am #2868565
Social Event vs Tech Conference
by old-fart-iv · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Social Event???????????????
I thought that would get someone’s attention 🙂
It all depends upon perspective, like trade shows: Those attending think it has value as they enjoy the food/drink and entertainment; those left behind to do the work see it as a “boondoggle”.
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July 1, 2010 at 4:19 am #2868664
I have never dragged my tail out of bed at 6AM
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Some of us have to WORK
For a social event. Jobs, tech conferences, and chemo are entirely different animals.
Gotta shower and get moving…
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July 1, 2010 at 4:55 am #2868657
Too…many…punchlines!
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I have never dragged my tail out of bed at 6AM
System overload…Wiseass processor system shutdown…Entendre core dump follows…
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July 1, 2010 at 8:58 am #2868580
Wha’ happen?
by seanferd · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Too…many…punchlines!
Did the core dump STOP error out as well? :0
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July 1, 2010 at 6:39 pm #2868496
sounds like
by gsg · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Too…many…punchlines!
You need more fiber if your core dump is that serious.
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July 1, 2010 at 7:01 pm #2868490
Shoot.
by boxfiddler · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to sounds like
The cat jumped off my lap. She hates it when I laugh this hard.
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July 1, 2010 at 10:09 am #2868563
Free-pass for Tigger
by old-fart-iv · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I have never dragged my tail out of bed at 6AM
I hope your SO is doing better 🙂
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July 1, 2010 at 5:41 am #2868646
WORK
by cmiller5400 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Some of us have to WORK
The Center for Disease Control has issued a medical alert about a highly contagious, potentially dangerous virus that is transmitted orally, by hand, and even electronically. This virus is called Weekly Overload Recreational Killer (WORK). If you receive WORK from your boss, any of your colleagues or anyone else via any means whatsoever – DO NOT TOUCH IT!!! This virus will wipe out your private life entirely. If you should come into contact with WORK you should immediately leave the premises..
Take two good friends to the nearest liquor store and purchase one or both of the antidotes – Work Isolating Neutralizer Extract (WINE) and Bothersome Employer Elimination Rebooter (BEER). Take the antidote repeatedly until WORK has been completely eliminated from your system.
You should immediately forward this medical alert to five friends. If you do not have five friends, you have already been infected and WORK is controlling your life.
I was sent this awhile back. Thought it was funny. Hope everyone is having fun at the “Tech Conference” 😀
((((HUGS)))) to all.
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July 5, 2010 at 9:31 am #2868356
laptops and smartphones
by jdclyde · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Some of us have to WORK
people need to learn to put them down once in a while!
I did bring my laptop for the second day, but had forgot the power cable in my room so didn’t even end up turning it on. Didn’t miss it at all. I actually talked to the people that were there instead.
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July 5, 2010 at 4:32 pm #2868292
I took my netbook
by ganyssa · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to laptops and smartphones
But never even took it out of my bag. And even an addict like me used my smartphone more for GPS and to resolve debates than anything else.
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July 5, 2010 at 8:19 pm #2868274
Yours was practical usage
by jdclyde · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I took my netbook
finding information or directions was probably 90% of what I saw you use it for.
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July 1, 2010 at 12:01 am #2868685
I’ss thinking of you Tigs
by hal 9000 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
Now remember to sat sober till you get all of the video posted. 😉
Wish I was there instead of sitting Herr waiting for a call up. It’s boring! :0
OH did I mention that I wasn’t allowed to have a NB with me while I’m waiting to be called? Pity that no one mentioned that when they summoned me to appear here. Someone here thinks that I might cause the other wittinesses to change their stories. :_|
(I even got a mate of mine who’s a Judge in this court to vouch for my character and he suggested that a time of Withdrawal may be good for my soul. BASTARD! X-(
Col
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July 1, 2010 at 12:08 am #2868682
I do hope
by jaqui · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’ss thinking of you Tigs
you are billing them at very good rates for your time sitting there. ]:)
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July 1, 2010 at 4:26 am #2868663
Sending a (((hug)))
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’ss thinking of you Tigs
I so wish that you were able to be here. I know you wanted to be.
Please do not start playing tic-tac-toe with pieces of broken lawyer or judge. It’s generally considered tacky. Arsenic is more genteel.
Hopefully, all that crap will be finished off soon and you can go back to a happier place.
(((hugs))) Col.
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July 1, 2010 at 4:57 am #2868655
Day One
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
Get it together, people; I’m having to catch all the spammers by myself!
How’s everybody doing on the banks of the Ohio this morning? Hotel kick anyone out yet?
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July 1, 2010 at 5:17 am #2868651
i’m trying
by purpleskys · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Day One
to pull up the back end Palmy when it comes to the spammers…just sometimes the kids have me doing other things. Hope everyone has a fabulous time though 🙂 !
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July 1, 2010 at 7:23 am #2868612
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July 1, 2010 at 9:08 am #2868577
Shows what little I know.
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Not yet
Do you drink it differently from other liquids?
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July 1, 2010 at 10:35 am #2868553
Why yes!
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Shows what little I know.
Yes you do. Or at least you *should*
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July 1, 2010 at 11:35 am #2868549
Ah, but I don’t
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Why yes!
I tend to avoid spending that much money on something my limited experience has shown I don’t enjoy.
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July 1, 2010 at 10:16 am #2868562
I hope it was “good” Scotch!
by old-fart-iv · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Not yet
Aye, I hope it was a single malt — none of that blended #$%^%$#.
And you enjoyed sipping it correctly (as the barman told me at the Glenlivit distillery: A Dram of Scotch + a Dram of water; NO ICE..
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July 1, 2010 at 10:27 am #2868558
Sidebar – ‘single malt’
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I hope it was “good” Scotch!
“What exactly does ‘single malt’ mean, what are the alternatives, and what makes one better than the other?”, asked someone who thinks most distilled spirits don’t taste very good at all.
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July 1, 2010 at 10:34 am #2868555
Single malt is a whiskey that’s good tasting enough…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Sidebar – ‘single malt’
by itself that it doesn’t need mixing with other whiskeys.
Blended whiskies contain grain whiskey (ptooie!). [Grain whiskey is made on a machine, it’s a misnomer of a sort, I thought at least that barley and rye are “grain” too]
I’d recommend an Islay. At least that way, if you don’t like distilled spirits, you’ll at least get an experience… they’re [i]special[/i].EDIT:wikipedia says: Single malt whisky is a whisky made from only one type of malted grain and distilled at one particular distillery. Single malts are traditionally made from barley cultivated near the distillery concerned, although there are some single malt rye whiskies.
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July 1, 2010 at 11:22 am #2868550
Thanks for the definition — Single Malt Scotch
by old-fart-iv · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Single malt is a whiskey that’s good tasting enough…
I think that covers it all: only difference I have heard is that the major “blends” (Chivas, JWalker, etc) are made-up from other Single Malts + water … nothing else
The Isle distillery products can be quite hard to find in the US, and will cost much more that the blended “#$@#$”
I can always find Glenlivit, Glenmornage, and other common ones locally .. Smaller ones (with less output) are a “wee” more difficult to find ..
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July 1, 2010 at 12:09 pm #2868546
Islay is costly *added content alert*
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Thanks for the definition — Single Malt Scotch
But worth it.
On the other end of the scale, among the blended I find that the very modest, and modestly priced Cutty Sark is every bit as good as the whorey Glendfiddich (at least it was when I was still on the market seven years ago). It’s better, in fact.
EDIT: I guess I’ll put this here so as to not make too many replies to the same couple of posts, that makes me seem fanatic, I’ve been told. :p
In my days of studying biochemistry, there was this student bar association. Ran a membership-based basement bar right next to the university. They were an ambitious bunch, and they called in a beer-delivery truck driver to lecture on fine whiskies, he was a connoisseur you see. They called this course “Whiskey A”. I attended, and here’s the gist (one of them at least):
It’s a well known fact, that the irish invented whisky. It was a triple distilled affair, the germinated malt dried and roasted in a coal-fired kiln.
The scots, having gotten wind of this secret through a loose-tongued monk, immediately started to think – “how can we make this stuff without spending so much money on it?”.
So, first of all, they put their stills next to sources of water. Clean water, incidentally.
Secondly, they figured they’d save on coal, by adding peat. Presto, peaty scots whiskey taste.
Third, they thought, with advanced logistic understanding, mind. And, they looked at the maturation.
Looked hard, and figured “Why are we storing water?”. No answer. Then, they stopped the distilling at 60% + angel’s share… instead of continuing until 42 + angel’s share. And – on account of that, the nastier by-tastes of late-stage distillation were left out.
They then add water during tapping/bottling, the cask contains a whiskey-concentrate.
You can buy bottles of that stuff, it’s powerful. Of course, it burns the mouth too much for the taste to be fully experienced, but at least you can dilute it to your preference.So, the bottom line is, that I learned something about rationalization. It should be like with those scots, trying their damndest to cut costs, and ending up heightening their product quality (no offence to the irish, pleasedontkillme).
If costs go down, and quality too, then it’s just sloppifying.In rationalization, you should expect a quality increase.
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July 1, 2010 at 1:37 pm #2868532
Correction for you…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Thanks for the definition — Single Malt Scotch
A mix of different distilleries’ single malts is called a vatted malt.
Vatted malts do not contain grain liquor [grain [i]whiskey[/i] my ass. I’ve tasted it raw… it’s not whiskey].
If it’s blended then it has added grain liquor.All scots whiskies have added water (unless it’s a cask strength bottling).
EDIT: Aaaand cripe… I checked around, and apparently some dumbass has invented the term “blended malt” for vatted malt. May he/she/they burn in hell.
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July 6, 2010 at 12:43 pm #2868154
my personal fave
by purpleskys · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Thanks for the definition — Single Malt Scotch
Glenfiddich or Highland Park : I’m just not a big fan of mixing any of my spirits with water. I did try Ballentines blended a while back ago (it was given to me), it was OK, but not near as nice as the other two I mentioned. OH, and I did try Glenlivit before as well, very smooth 🙂
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July 7, 2010 at 6:14 am #2855304
No ‘E’!
by neilb@uk · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Single malt is a whiskey that’s good tasting enough…
It’s “whisky”. Irish is “whiskey”.
If you’re ever in Scotland, try and get some that hasn’t been chill filtered. Way back, when Americans started putting ice in everything, the Scottish distillers started chill-filtering their malts to stop the drink turning hazy with ice or when stored in the cold.
Alas, remove the congeners and some of the taste goes!
🙂
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July 7, 2010 at 12:03 pm #2855266
See that…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to No ‘E’!
is one thing I can never remember.
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July 7, 2010 at 3:14 pm #2855245
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July 7, 2010 at 4:06 pm #2855241
Get any English English splel cehcker
by neilb@uk · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to No ‘E’!
Or, even better, an English English English sepll chceker rather than an American English English psell hcekcre and your whisky problem will go away. Well, your whisky spelling problem, not your drinking one.
But then you will be typing neighbour, colour and, making me happy, doughnut! And everyone will be thinking, “Hey! That JD is a bit cultured, isn’t he?” and only we will know the real truth.
:p
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July 8, 2010 at 8:23 am #2855151
Hey!
by jdclyde · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to No ‘E’!
pretend to be nice! :p
unfortunately, with the cutbacks in my hours, whiskEy fits my budget much better than scotch does. I typically drink a Canadian Club and coke, hold the coke, when out with friends.
Not to mention, the bars around here have such NASTY “scotch”, I wouldn’t dream of having it. Still working on my personal stash as home though, so that should get me through! B-)
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July 8, 2010 at 9:53 am #2855134
I have a “nice” quota
by neilb@uk · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to No ‘E’!
Am I going to use it on you? You know me better than that!
😀
I am in the process of developing a palate for vintage port as befits my current and ongoing status as an Old Git.
GOD!!!, the HANGOVERS that that stuff can give.
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July 8, 2010 at 2:52 pm #2855085
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July 8, 2010 at 3:33 pm #2855080
Col: You forget that I was a biochemist
by neilb@uk · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to No ‘E’!
I know that gout is caused by the inability of the body to break down and excrete purines. If not excreted, the purines break down to produce uric acid which can crystallise in a joint, causing inflammation and acute pain.
Consuming more than the recommended levels of alcohol does cause dehydration, which increases the likelihood of a gout attack.
But of COURSE I’d never, ever do that.
Me?
The very thought…
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July 9, 2010 at 3:08 pm #2855609
No Neil I didn’t forget
by hal 9000 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to No ‘E’!
But the thought of you drinking Port made me think of the [b]Great Old English Tradition[/b] of Gout. :^0
It’s like smoking you know it’s no good for you but what the hell it’s good at the time and who cares about latter it hasn’t come yet. 😉
Col
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July 9, 2010 at 10:50 pm #2855569
Neil: You write Colour – I write Color
by old-fart-iv · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to No ‘E’!
To be true to Scotland, you are correct in your spelling.
I visited the Glenlivit distillery near Moray many years ago — nearly every time we had visitors to our small NATO detachment.
One time, I listened as the kilted giant behind the counter chastised a Canadian forces member for requesting ice with the complimentary dram of Scotch at the end of the tour.
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July 1, 2010 at 10:29 am #2868557
Water needs to be good quality….
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I hope it was “good” Scotch!
A high grade tapwater is good, depends on where you are of course. I’d say none of that bottled stuff, it’s poison on so many levels. Taste comes to the fore at around 20-30% alcohol, so 50-50 or 60-40… 40-60 for cask.
But if it’s, say, a cask-strength thirty year lagavulin… I’d probably take that one undiluted sip, just for the thunderbolt effect. Sure it fries the tastebuds, but if it’s a small one they’ll recover quite well by the time the thunder stops rolling.
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July 1, 2010 at 9:59 pm #2868475
Of course it was good scotch
by nicknielsen · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I hope it was “good” Scotch!
Balvenie 17 SherryOak. Do you think we’re beginners?
They do get better than that, but the price goes up exponentially. There was a 25-year-old available, but at $625, that Macallen was out of our price range.
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July 2, 2010 at 6:44 am #2868444
Oops
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Of course it was good scotch
Posted in the wrong place. I fixed it.
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July 5, 2010 at 9:34 am #2868354
Wish I would have been more free with it
by jdclyde · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Of course it was good scotch
so you wouldn’t have had as much left to forget!
🙁
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July 5, 2010 at 11:52 am #2868339
Less than a third of the bottle
by nicknielsen · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Wish I would have been more free with it
If you and I had applied ourselves on Friday and Saturday, there would have been dregs, if that.
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July 5, 2010 at 12:52 pm #2868331
I would have helped you out
by jamesrl · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Less than a third of the bottle
Being the magnanimous soul that I am.
I’ve avoided alcohol after the funeral, save for a couple of glasses of Cointreau (two separate occasions). I’m not one for drowning one’s sorrows.
James
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July 5, 2010 at 4:49 pm #2868288
And I would have been
by nicknielsen · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Less than a third of the bottle
so magnanimous as to allow you to help.
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July 5, 2010 at 3:41 pm #2868300
Cheers
by juanita marquez · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Of course it was good scotch
Just wanted to thank you for your “how to drink Scotch” lesson, I never cared for it before. I also learned how to drink and appreciate Bourbon on that trip as well!
Actually, maybe I shouldn’t be thanking you, if my $ is going to be spent on Scotch more often now. 🙂
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July 5, 2010 at 4:47 pm #2868289
There are worse ways to spend it
by nicknielsen · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Cheers
And if you’re buying it more often than four or five times a year, you’re drinking it too fast. 😀
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July 6, 2010 at 11:35 am #2868171
Less is more…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Cheers
Savour it like a work of art… it’s either that or go broke :p
But bourbon I don’t understand… it’s like blended whiskey without any malts at all… but then, sounds like one should have been there to understand 😀
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July 8, 2010 at 5:07 pm #2855072
Caramel
by juanita marquez · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Less is more…
I did a distillery tour of Maker’s Mark and I fully anticipated finding the tasting at the end to be disgusting (I’ve never cared for bourbon), but they instructed us to breathe in the flavor with our mouths open prior to drinking. I was shocked to find I actually could smell and taste the caramel flavors quite vividly, I always was skeptical when wines or other alcohols are described as “peaty”, “oaky”, “chocolaty” etc. It also should be sipped, which I never knew, vs. drinking it like water or soda.
Maybe it was the bourbon. That brand is supposed to be less bitter than others. Or maybe they just put something extra in it to zombify us. All I know is I like it.
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July 8, 2010 at 5:20 pm #2855071
‘Oaky’
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Less is more…
I’ve never understood that. Who eats oak and knows what it tastes like? Termites? Same goes for ‘mossy’ or ‘earthy’; I hope to never know what either tastes like.
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July 9, 2010 at 7:17 am #2854986
Which brings me back to Lagavulin, Mr. Spencer.
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Less is more…
I claim it tastes like thunder rolling between the sea and the mountains.
But it’s definitely smoky… has to do with Islay not having peat.
Seaweed they have though, so they put that in the kiln.
It’s something else than imagery, you can actually taste the smoke. Salty oceany smoke. -
July 6, 2010 at 12:38 pm #2868155
water?
by purpleskys · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I hope it was “good” Scotch!
ewww….scotch…straight up tyvm
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July 6, 2010 at 1:12 pm #2868145
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July 6, 2010 at 3:25 pm #2868125
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July 6, 2010 at 1:17 pm #2868143
Do that…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to water?
with a dram of Lagavulin Cask… it’s an experience.
But there are taste nuances in scotch that simply do not unfold at 42 volts (let alone the 60 volt cask).
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July 6, 2010 at 4:43 pm #2868119
None of this is encouraging me.
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Do that…
I’ll stick to Tabasco.
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July 6, 2010 at 5:46 pm #2868112
Try Texas Pete’s
by nicknielsen · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to None of this is encouraging me.
More body, better aroma.
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July 6, 2010 at 10:07 pm #2868095
The point is…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to None of this is encouraging me.
dilute. (pure water only)
It’s ok, the scots do it too, so it’s not wussing out or being inauthentic or whatever macho cripe…At the proper dilution, you’ll notice that it’s not burning at all, and you’ll find tastes in there that you would’ve never expected. Plus, it’s less expensive that way too.
But this is coming from someone who doesn’t take alcohol at all any more. So… either way?
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July 7, 2010 at 6:05 am #2855305
Texas Pete???
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to None of this is encouraging me.
The reason it has more ‘body’ is because they add a thickener. Agar or guar gum, I don’t remember which. That aside, I think the flavor is kinda flat.
Tabasco Chipotle is my current favorite. Dave’s Insanity is -way- overrated; heat but no flavor.
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July 7, 2010 at 12:23 pm #2855263
AG, ‘proper’ dilution?
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to None of this is encouraging me.
“At the proper dilution, you’ll notice that it’s not burning at all, and you’ll find tastes in there that you would’ve never expected.”
At the risk of starting an alcohol-fueled flame war, what’s the ‘proper’ dilution?
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July 7, 2010 at 12:33 pm #2855261
fifty-fifty is a good place to start
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to None of this is encouraging me.
That makes for around 21 volts, obviously.
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July 7, 2010 at 1:02 pm #2855257
Ya lost me again.
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to None of this is encouraging me.
I assume y’all are tossing around the term ‘volts’ in a humorous sense, right?
More to the point,
“For cask, diluting to that strength takes about one part to two.”
* What do you mean by ‘For cask’?
* How does one to two get me fifty-fifty?
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July 7, 2010 at 4:26 pm #2855237
So, Palmetto
by nicknielsen · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to None of this is encouraging me.
You going public?
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July 8, 2010 at 6:17 am #2855169
Nick, yep.
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to None of this is encouraging me.
I’ve never been nuts about being anonymous, but the ‘Palmetto’ identity is established here, I use it a couple of other places, and I don’t want to abandon it.
The new name is longer than I like. I’d remove the spaces around the dash but new members might think I had a hypenated first name.
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July 8, 2010 at 10:45 am #2855125
Sorry, old habit
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to None of this is encouraging me.
percentage of volume = % vol > “volts”
Cask is a special tapping, it’s not diluted before bottling, so it’s 60% vol straight out of the bottle.
So you’ll need to thin it more to get to the sweet spot.But it’s probably an individual taste matter, to what % to dilute no matter the starting point. I’d advise starting with the ~20% and going up or down from there.
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July 7, 2010 at 5:52 am #2855306
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July 7, 2010 at 12:00 pm #2855267
Ah…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I hardly think that Purple Sky and I are being macho
But you see… you haven’t been spouting any macho crap. So you’re not under the thumb of my remark.
Some people do think that it’s sacrilege to water scotch, having never tried it.
If you try, and like it better straight, that’s ok. It’s a preference, not a prejudice.
But the people with prejudices are full of macho cripe, and they don’t mind throwing it around.
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July 7, 2010 at 4:24 pm #2855239
I much prefer it straight
by nicknielsen · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I hardly think that Purple Sky and I are being macho
But then I don’t drink blends. If I have to drink a blend, I’ll have it over ice, but I will go out of my way to not drink a blended whisky, so it doesn’t happen very often.
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July 8, 2010 at 5:51 am #2855176
it’s all good
by purpleskys · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I hardly think that Purple Sky and I are being macho
I’m a tough cookie to offend anyway 😉 .
I have, over the years, tried to drink different types of spirits mixed with what other folks say I should try them with (ever trying to keep an open mind when trying new things), but often end up going back to what I mixed (or not mixed) things with. People cringe at me when I say “dark rum and oj please”…mmmm…one of my favorite things. Darryl on occasion has nudged me into trying crown royal mixed with water and I just can’t acquire the taste for it. So to each their own, and enjoy responsibly 🙂
Edit: for spelling
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July 1, 2010 at 9:22 am #2868572
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July 1, 2010 at 5:31 am #2868647
Needless to say
by hal 9000 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
Have a Great Time everyone.
Col
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July 1, 2010 at 6:33 am #2868631
9:09 a.m.- it begins…
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
So Jason is giving us the lay of the land here. The topic is supposed to be “The Changing Face of IT”.
We live in a world of change. At a high level, this is a discussion of new challenges and trends in the world of IT.
Tech Republic is in the unique position of being able to advise senior level people in a variety of roles to understand how the “worker bees” in IT perceive IT and their roles.
Trends to watch-
Consumerization of IT- According to Gartner, the old model of IT is moving. As the workforce changes, ownership of the enterprise platform is moving from the IT department and moving to the enterprise worker. We all have had individuals who want to do what they want to do and on the equipment and tools they want to do it on. Because this is in the name of productivity, IT must adapt and change. Or does it? And how?
Borderless network- Old networks are changing as workers reach outside the enterprise. How does the IT department manage security in an environment where end users reach beyond the security of the interior network? How do we re-think security in this world?
Clouds in the data center- CIOs see cloud computing as a real direction. How does computing in the cloud impact IT and how do we support this? What about the private cloud? Is the private cloud just virtualization with a different name? What does that mean to the IT professional?
Outsourcing, the good, the bad, the ugly- Is outsourcing just a new way to approach resource management? Does it make sense for the enterprise to “own” their own IT or their own data centers? Is it better to let IBM have the “reins” of YOUR data center? What do you tell leadership when they want to move away from the in-house model?
Mobilization- How do we manage that? Should IT own this or should we allow the individual to choose their own devices and we just manage? Or does the IT department define this? Knowledge workers want to be able to work on the go. So do people in a variety of other roles. How do we decide what tools work best and how do we advise the people “in the trenches” on devices that will best meet the need? Is the desktop device dead?
We’re going to discuss these topics. In the room, we will get around 15 minutes. You can take all the time you want…
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July 3, 2010 at 12:30 pm #2854775
e_business solutions
by madsmaddad · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to 9:09 a.m.- it begins…
Wow. Those look like the topics for the course that I taught this spring. Add a couple more like convergence, and security, and that’s it. Can anyone send me any notes or links to slides to assist me in preparing for next year?
Hope you all are enjoying yourselves.
I am at the seminar on optical properties of round glass cylinders containing alcoholic beverages.
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July 1, 2010 at 7:19 am #2868613
10:07- Social Media Policy in the Enterprise Rick Vanover
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
How does the enterprise manage the social media policy? What are the points that should be considered?
The enterprise needs to protect it’s interests. That includes trade secrets, insider information, etc.
By putting this in writing, the enterprise can remove ambiguity and clearly communicate standards and practices to the end users.
While we are good with the idea because we are familiar with Internet use policies. But social media is a slightly different animal. The end user could ignore the Internet policy by simply going home and using their own computer. Social media is a different animal.
What tools can help the enterprise to monitor employees? Are those tools mature enough to meet the needs?
Are disclaimers effective? Why or why not?
Is the statement “On the internet, no one knows you are a dog” true? Does the fact that you are a dog change the way people think of your owner? To what extent?
How do you enforce your policy when your employee goes home? What do you do when your employee is disgruntled and takes your corporate name in vain?
There is enough here to discuss for a very long time. What are your thoughts?
Edit: Typo
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July 1, 2010 at 8:25 am #2868593
Does the fact that you are a dog change the way people think of your owner?
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to 10:07- Social Media Policy in the Enterprise Rick Vanover
Hehehehe…
Let’s put a “no dogs allowed” sign on the internet, and stick Al Gore out on the porch to uphold it, too. 😀
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July 1, 2010 at 6:23 pm #2868506
But didn’t you know!
by nexs · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Does the fact that you are a dog change the way people think of your owner?
That everything on the internet is true?
They have these truth filters that means all the information you find is correct, complete and truthful.I read it on the internet.
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July 2, 2010 at 5:09 am #2868449
Yep that’s why IO know my Alter Ego
by oh smeg · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to But didn’t you know!
HAL 9000 is [b]Nice[/b] I read it on the Internet. :0
Col
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July 1, 2010 at 7:50 am #2868605
The Twitter hashtag is #TRLive
by jasonhiner · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
Here’s the link:
http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23TRLiveYou can see what people are posting about the event on Twitter, and then come back here and discuss it, of course. 🙂
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July 1, 2010 at 8:18 am #2868596
Great! Thanks for this
by tink! · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to The Twitter hashtag is #TRLive
I’ll catch it on TweetDeck
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July 1, 2010 at 8:39 am #2868589
Sidebar.
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to The Twitter hashtag is #TRLive
Sorry, buddy, I still don’t get it. A bunch of posts about some fight, then people telling me when they started and stopped their presentations. Little of what I’d define as actual ‘content’.
I’ll monitor this discussion; there seems to be more going on here.
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July 1, 2010 at 8:44 am #2868586
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July 1, 2010 at 9:11 am #2868576
Can’t discuss it if I haven’t seen it.
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Gasp! Palmie!
First one I’ve looked at in months, and it reminded me why it will be months before I look at another one. Same stuff, different day. One has to come back here (or go somewhere other than Twitter) to have a coherent discussion of the material anyway.
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July 1, 2010 at 9:27 am #2868571
That reminds me of something
by tink! · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Can’t discuss it if I haven’t seen it.
TR being a tech site, they should look into doing this because there’s already sites out there that do it.
I’ve seen where a site has a live chat screen that is connected to Twitter. In this way you can either add to the chat by inserting comments directly into the chat screen, or via Twitter.
I’m assuming it auto-searches and pulls the Twitter hashtag and then displays it on the chat screen. I haven’t looked that deep into it yet. Whatever way it does it, the chat at least resembles a chat conversation rather than the sporadic randomness of a normal Twitter feed.
Just something to look into.
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July 1, 2010 at 9:38 am #2868566
Maybe someone in L’ville will read this and suggest it.
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to That reminds me of something
Hint, hint.
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July 2, 2010 at 5:18 am #2868448
I have to totally agree Pally
by oh smeg · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Sidebar.
But then again I’ve never seen the reason for Twit to begin with and it’s way off my list of things to do.
If it was part way useful maybe things would be different but from looking at it it’s as useful as t1ts on a bull. Just my humble opinion there. 😉
Col
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July 1, 2010 at 8:40 am #2868587
LOL The hashtag is being used
by tink! · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to The Twitter hashtag is #TRLive
by another event too:
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July 1, 2010 at 9:14 am #2868575
Ah, so that’s what that was all about.
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to LOL The hashtag is being used
I couldn’t figure out why y’all traveled just to watch a fight with so much else to do in L’ville, or why you thought the rest of the community cared what y’all had on the tube. Should I assume hashtags aren’t assigned or moderated in any fashion, and that random duplication isn’t uncommon?
I’ll be #sex is pretty popular.
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July 1, 2010 at 9:29 am #2868569
Hashtags are not regulated
by tink! · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Ah, so that’s what that was all about.
You basically have to search before you pick a hashtag. I had another organization that had to change their tag because it was already being used by a couple other organizations.
Many places just don’t worry about it and if it is being used by more than one, they just leave it up to the users to sort out which ones are which.
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July 1, 2010 at 8:16 am #2868597
11:06- Blogging Toni Bowers
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
“Your picture is ugly”
This was a real email received by Toni some years back.
Blogging is as simple as starting a discussion and hitting “enter”. Frankly, that is a lot of power in the hands of the individual.
Toni shares with us some of the email (anonymously, of course) that she has received as a blogger on Tech Republic over the years.
Blogging FOR TechRepublic is a joy. I know this as I have done it. But doing so constantly reminds you that there are opinions everywhere and everyone has one.
The question to you all is, “What do YOU think is an effective blog? What words of advice would you give to the bloggers on TR? How can we improve the quality of our posts?”
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July 1, 2010 at 8:25 am #2868594
Advice to TR bloggers
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to 11:06- Blogging Toni Bowers
1. Request the PTBs move the ‘Worthwhile?’ button to the bottom of the page, between the end of your content and the beginning of the comments. You’ll get more responses if people don’t have to remember to go back to the top to provide it.
2. Always post the first reply to your blog entry. This ensures it will appear in the Discussions Forum promptly, instead of hours or days later when someone else notices it on the home page and responds to it. It also makes it apparent in Discussions who the blog author is.
3. Avoid characters in your titles other than alphanumeric. Sometimes they don’t survive the formatting, and sometimes they’re just annoying. I’m talking to those of you who use parentheses.
4. If you’re going to include a graphic, make that sucker as big as possible. If it can’t be clearly read at 1024×768, make it a link.
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July 1, 2010 at 11:06 am #2868551
Palmie
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Advice to TR bloggers
I will make sure that your comments on this is read/heard.
Great points! Thanks!
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July 2, 2010 at 8:16 am #2868426
Hey, Toni!
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Palmie
I think I remember someone posting that personal remark. I also recall you didn’t write the entry under discussion, that the blog entry in question was actually written by someone else on one of the blogs you host. Finally, I remember several members giving that poster his well-earned ration.
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July 1, 2010 at 12:46 pm #2868542
Waves hello !!!!!
by shellbot · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
Hows eveyone doing?? Having fun??
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July 1, 2010 at 1:05 pm #2868539
We wish you were too
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Waves hello !!!!!
And missing you muchly.
(((hugs)))
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July 1, 2010 at 7:50 pm #2868482
On my way!
by Scott Lowe · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
It’s 10 PM Thursday night and I’m heading out to drive to Louisville… wish I could have made day 1, but I will be there for day 2!
Scott
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July 2, 2010 at 6:46 am #2868441
9:00 a.m. Consumerization of IT- Bill Detweiler
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
IT consumerization has been something that we have seen but tried to ignore for years. It is believed that we no longer have the luxury of doing this.
“Consumer IT will affect every enterprise. Attempts by enterprise to deny this are doomed to failure, just as previous attempts to deny Wi-Fi, “smart” mobile phones, the Internet, and even the PC itself failed”.
– Gartner-Consumerization refers to devices that appeared in the consumer driven market that moved into the business space and vice versa.
Consumerization has been driven by equipment manufacturers who perceive the consumer as a revenue stream, the Internet and its ability to meet multiple needs for the average individual, and the Millenials- people born after 1980 who have never been without technology.
Consumers are the largest consumers of technology. According to Paul Ortellini, President and CEO of Intel, the primary focus of the manufacturer is this group.
Millenials bring a new attitude to the IT table. They have grown up with technology so they are more inclined to look to the technology solution to accomplish tasks. The Millenial is less inclined to respect barriers to the use of technology including corporate policies around IT.
Risks in consumerization include security, loss of control, regulatory and legal issues, increased support costs, loss of productivity, and loss of user dissatisfaction. It becomes necessary to strategize to counter these risks.
Consider how consumerization impacts your workplace and how you, the IT professional manage the risks while providing a flexible enough environment to maintain both productivity and user satisfaction.
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July 2, 2010 at 11:15 am #2854937
Consumerization- Solutions Break out session
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to 9:00 a.m. Consumerization of IT- Bill Detweiler
How does your enterprise manage consumerization? Do you have policies in place today? Do you have a grasp on what the impacts/risks are?
NickNielsen- My company allows us to use whatever phone we want and they support it… except that they support limited functions on the smart phone.
Ganyssa- Our company has a list of devices that we agree to support on the network. We are only allowing the device to use a portal to email, not applications on the network itself.
???- My company is distance learning. I can receive my device from the company and can choose from two plans. The device is only used for work.
Deb- Email is generally business, text messaging isn’t. Does your business shut off text messaging?
JD- We cut off all texting for our business users.
Bill- How do you manage privacy? Are your users aware that they have no expectations of privacy? Do your have a policy?
JD- Our users know that business devices are for business. They don’t have an expectation of privacy.
GG- Our policy is clear. We allow “reasonable” personal use but we don’t clarify exactly what “reasonable is. This will likely change.
Bill- Is this a productivity issue? Can people bring in their own devices and waste business time on them?
Deb- In many ways this is a mentality shift. Similar to the tele-worker in that business perceives a loss of control.
These are the highlights of the discussion. Please add your voice.
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July 2, 2010 at 7:32 am #2868435
Photos of the event
by jasonhiner · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
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July 2, 2010 at 8:18 am #2868425
Same room as last year, I see.
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Photos of the event
Some different faces, though.
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July 2, 2010 at 8:40 am #2868421
Some new
by ganyssa · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Same room as last year, I see.
Some the same. Wish you were here. I’ve had to hit JD three times in your absence.
That was on the ride here, though.
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July 2, 2010 at 7:41 am #2868433
10:00 IT Crimewatch- Deb Shinder
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
To the tune of “Who Are You” by The Who…
Deb is a former law enforcement officer, police academy instructor, Criminal Justice instructor and more.
Cybercrime is a way to differentiate illegal activity that is committed using a computer network or the Internet.
The computer might be a tool of the crime, a target of the crime, or used incidentally as a part of the crime.
“Behavior reflects personality” – John Douglas, FBI profiler.
Motivation can be emotional, “just fun”, monetary profit, sexual impulse, political motivation, and psychiatric illness.
Means are the ability to access the tools used in the commission of a crime.
Opportunity is the ability to actually be present to commit the offense. These are the three necessary points to actually be considered a suspect for a criminal charge.
23% of malicious activity originates in the US. Not so good.
Technologies that cybercriminals use include broadband, wireless, web 2.0, online banking, e-commerce, social networking, mobile computing, standardization, and the cloud. Obviously, we aren’t going to stop using these tools… but neither will they.
Fighting cybercrime requires appropriate and enforceable laws, law enforcement that understands technology, victims and witnesses that are willing to report, a court system that is able to appropriately weigh the evidence presented, and a corrections system that understands the difference between a hacker, a white collar criminal, and the so-called average criminal and rehabilitates appropriately.
IT and law enforcement need to align in order to fight cybercrime. This requires that we consider the things that might keep us from working together.
The tools we have available to us are basic. Monitor and document activity on your network. Report the crime when it is detected. Know the law or get to someone who does. Understand jurisdictional issues or get to someone who does. Finally, educate, educate, educate.
Prevention and awareness are strong tools to fight cybercrime. Choose to get involved and educate others.
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July 2, 2010 at 8:45 am #2868419
11:00 a.m.- Open Source vs Proprietary- Jack Wallen and Scott Lowe
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to 10:00 IT Crimewatch- Deb Shinder
[b]Why do you use the technology you do?[/b]
Scott Lowe- A couple of reasons. Cost is the first as Microsoft is easy to acquire and inexpensive for education. It integrates well with other Microsoft products and deploys quickly. For a small staff, it is just easier.
While the college is primarily Microsoft, we do use Open Source but only where it makes sense.
Jack Wallen- Linux admins are the Maytag repairmen of IT (in an Open Source shop). One of the reasons our consultancy doesn’t recommend Linux more often is because we don’t make money. We don’t get the level of call outs for Linux environments. It is a stable platform that works well.
All of Microsoft’s products work well together because Microsoft made them to do that. Open Source comes from a variety of sources so there is a greater challenge to interoperability. That paradigm is changing and newer tools ARE more interoperable.
The myth about Linux is that it is hard to learn. It’s a myth. As Linux has matured, it has gotten easier to use. End users can pick it up easily. The learning curve is really more around what the user is accustomed to.
[b]The Desktop- Do you see momentum for the Linux desktop for business?[/b]
Jack Wallen- As business begins to understand how easy it is to use the Linux desktop, it seems like a no-brainer to use Linux. The stopping point is where business has developed tools or adopted tools to do critical functions that do not work on the Linux desktop.
Scott Lowe- Application compatibility is a huge driver for us. We have a small number of Mac users who will probably be shifted to Windows soon. I personally use a MacBook Pro but I use Windows on it.
Microsoft is making changes to be more portable and more agnostic. This will provide a richer user experience for those users that use other browsers (for example).
Open Q&A…
[b]How to you choose a tool to do the job? Are you only willing to use a specific tool because of who makes the tool or do you select a tool based on the actual need?[/b]
Scott Lowe- I look at what the need is and how it can be integrated in my environment. I am a *mostly* Microsoft shop so that tends to be the best fit.
Jack Wallen- Proprietary software has one goal- make money. Open Source has a different philosophy. The people working on Open Source projects have one goal- make the best possible product. This is not to say that Open Source doesn’t make money, there are Open Source companies that do. But the philosophy at the foundation is different.
Rather than choose just one- only Microsoft, only Mac, only Open Source- choose the tool that meets your needs the best.
Note: Any mis-statements contained here are the fault of the note taker… me.
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July 2, 2010 at 9:35 am #2868409
Weekend Update – Point / Counterpoint
by charliespencer · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to 11:00 a.m.- Open Source vs Proprietary- Jack Wallen and Scott Lowe
Jack Wallen – Scott, you pompous ass.
Scott Lowe – Jack, you ignorant slut.
Seriously, good stuff, guys. Tiggie, thanks for transcribing. I’d like to see similar ‘pro / con’ presentations at future events.
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July 2, 2010 at 12:34 pm #2854928
Streaming Open Mic
by tig2 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
There’s a link on the front door to the live stream. Check it out!
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July 2, 2010 at 12:37 pm #2854927
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July 6, 2010 at 2:03 am #2868257
What’s with the . . .?
by maxwell edison · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to TechRepublic Tech Conference
Did’t that used to be TiggerTwo?
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July 6, 2010 at 3:56 am #2868246
I expect
by nicknielsen · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What’s with the . . .?
if she wanted us to know, we’d know.
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July 6, 2010 at 5:24 am #2868239
That’s exactly…
by cmiller5400 · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What’s with the . . .?
That’s exactly what I was thinking…
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July 6, 2010 at 7:29 am #2868215
dirty laundry
by jdclyde · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What’s with the . . .?
Sent you a peer.
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July 6, 2010 at 11:18 am #2868173
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July 6, 2010 at 11:38 am #2868170
Holding breath?
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Everything okay I hope?
“…?” looks like that.
Fingers crossed, here.
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July 7, 2010 at 5:31 am #2855308
For many, everything is fine
by jdclyde · about 13 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Everything okay I hope?
for one, not so much.
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