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Teen Protests his school saying PoA in Foreign Lang.

By Jessie ·
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7146982

MILLERSVILLE, Md. - A ninth-grader is protesting his school?s decision to broadcast the Pledge of Allegiance in foreign languages as part of National Foreign Language Week.

Patrick Linton said he and other students at Old Mill High School sat down rather than stand Wednesday when the pledge was read over the school?s public address system in Russian. Linton?s teacher told him if he had a problem he should leave the room.

He did, and did not plan to return this week.

?This is America, and we got soldiers at war,? the 15-year-old said. ?When you?re saying the Pledge in a different language which nobody understands, that?s not OK.?

Charles Linton, Patrick?s father, said the use of other languages is disrespectful to the country. ?It?s like wearing a cross upside down in a church,? he said.


Does somebody want to tell me... just HOW saying the pledge of allegiance in something other than English is DISRESPECTFUL?!?!?! I always thought it was the feeling and the meaning of the pledge that did it honor... not the language in which it was spoken.

Thoughts?

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Seems obvious that he got it from ...

by deepsand In reply to Wonder where a grade scho ...

his family; most likely from his father, as witnessed by his father's comment.

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Don't read this reply

by Computer Dude In reply to Seems obvious that he got ...

Jessie, what would you call an honest to goodness racial epithet, or are you of the opinion that racists only come in one color.

Incidentally, I'm not offended by cracker on a personal level. What bothers me is the double standard that any vile statement about whites is perfectly acceptable, yet any slightly questionable remark about non-whites is automatic racism and people like you join in the fray to condemn.

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Racial Slur Database

by Jessie In reply to Don't read this reply

For a pretty complete list of racial slurs, you can check out this site http://www.rsdb.org

Most of them, I would call honest to goodness racial epithets, though even there, context plays into it quite a bit. I don't get pissed off when one black guy calls another black guy "the N word" much like I don't get pissed off when my husband who's a fraggin' geek, calls me a fraggin' geek... context ya know... he's earned the right to call me that.

I don't get pissed off when my husband (a very nice black man) calls me a cracka-***-cracka either... the only time he's ever done that is when he was joking about one thing or another, but I would never, and I do mean NEVER call him "the N word." Cracker just is not on the same level as other racial epithets. Gringo is closer... but still just not quite there. It's not that racists only come in one color, but there just aren't many commonly used white racial epithents that have quite the LEVEL of hatred associated with them. "Cracker" is more on the level of "redneck", or "dumbass"... just not the same.

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Under no circumstances

by Computer Dude In reply to Seems obvious that he got ...

Jessie, you wouldn't say that Dawg's use of the C-word was in a hateful context?
It's on the list of racial slurs. When might an anti-white slur be considered racist, then? Or are you like the mayor of Detroit who believes that there's no such thing as a racist non-white person?

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No non white racists!

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Under no circumstances

Man do you need to visit Japan to see real Racism in action.

I find it very hard to even get along with those people on their home ground but they are totally different people when overseas on holidays or business.

Then I like them but the same person while at home is a totally different person.

Col ]:)

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Did you even READ anything more than the database?

by Jessie In reply to Under no circumstances

WTF? Go back and read my entire post. Then stop crawlin' up my butt.

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Japan

by Computer Dude In reply to Seems obvious that he got ...

Never been to Japan but I understand that they're very homogenous and not crazy about foreigers, and they've got every right to be, in my opinion.

Are they actually hostile or just discrespectful?

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Both and NOT just in Japan

by Oz_Media In reply to Japan

In BC we have a huge Asian communities, arguably some of he largest in North America.

Richmond BC is predominantly Asian now, not an exaggeration, it really is more Asian than anything else nowadays.

Peopledon't even THINK about walkign into Asian malls there or TRYING to conduct business in the IT sector as you don't have a hope ion **** if you are not Asian. I went to a video store, (couldn't read a single sign not ONE English/French sign to be seen)to buy some blank tapes. I had a pack of three tapes and was in a line up at the counter. We all filed through the line no problem, when I got to the counter the Asian man behind the ocunter looked STRAIGHT past me and took the tapes the guy behind me anted to rent. KNowing this was common, I bit my tongue and waited until he was done, I then put my tapes on the counter and the cashier looked at me and held out his hand. I looked at the register to see the price gave him the money, he gave me change by just placing it on the counter and walking onto the store floor to attend to someone else. NO bag, NO thank you, NO here's you change no NOTHING. There are two Aaisn malls down the street from there, I have walked through one as a shortcut, and been stared at like an alien.

THey are FAR more racial towards others than others are toward them. They only HIRE their OWN kind, they only serve their OWN kind etc. Caucasians are now the minority in Richmond and yet it is not seen as racial discrimination.

YOu want a drivers license in RIchmond, no joke, if you are asian you simply pay the guy at DMB and you have one in minutes, no test given. THey have fired a dozen people froim the Richmond DMV over the past 6 or so years, but it STILL happens, the next guy just takes over where the last left off.

It USED to be the same in Vancouver with the East Indian communities, but they no longer have such numbers when compared to Asians now, so they too are feeling the shock of being the minority and get discriminated against like everyone else does.

SO while it has been noted tht this happens in Japan, Japanese is but one VERY small portion of the Asian's we have in BC and i agree they are for the most part VERY courteous and polite people. But when you add Philipino, Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, Laotian, and hoards of other communities in the mix, they deal between themselves, they show no interst in learnign the language or becoming a part of mainstream society and segregate themselves while discriminating against others.

Here's a link to a thread on an Asian Website that has several Asian respondents saying that Vancouver is THE place to move. One has duly noted that RIchmond is a small suburb of Vancouver that actiually has a greater Asian population than Vancouver.
http://goldsea.com/AAD/aad_20901.html

Vancouver has one of the world's largest China Towns, and that is a miniscule DOT compared to the Asian population in Richmond.

Aisans often come to Vancouver when pregnant, IF they give birth in Canada, that child is automatically a Canadian citizen. Later on that child can move BACK to Vancouver and sponsor his parents moving here too. This 'free ride' is currently being reviewed in the supreme courts.

But they are JUST as rude to non-Asians, and in most cases FAR RUDER, than I have seen any other race act towards them.

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Jessie

by Computer Dude In reply to Seems obvious that he got ...

You didn't answer my question, you just danced around it. I asked what would be a hateful anti-white slur since cracker wasn't, you sent me a list, and cracker was considered a hateful slur according to the list, then you tell me to **** off.

Doesn't really matter because since you've revealed yourself to be a hypocrite anyway, I'm not real concerned about anything you say.

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I'm such a hypocrite.

by Jessie In reply to Jessie

So... first I said, "Anyone who truly thinks that cracker is a real-honest to goodness racial epithet, is probably pretty thin-skinned."

Then I said, "It's not that racists only come in one color, but there just aren't many commonly used white racial epithets that have quite the LEVEL of hatred associated with them. "Cracker" is more on the level of "redneck", or "dumbass"... just not the same."

And YOU said, "Jessie, you wouldn't say that Dawg's use of the C-word was in a hateful context?
It's on the list of racial slurs. When might an anti-white slur be considered racist, then? Or are you like the mayor of Detroit who believes that there's no such thing as a racist non-white person?"

Now, granted, I may have caused a certain amount of confusion when I said cracker is not a real-honest to goodness racial epithet, when what I truly meant was what I said in my second response, that there just aren't many white racial epithets that have the same LEVEL of hatred associated with them as so many of the racial epithets for other races... i.e. ni&&er, spic, chink. When compared to those, cracker, is pretty tame.

Have I made myself understood yet, or shall I repeat myself a few more times?

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