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Ten words or less: "I don't use Linux because..."

By Jay Garmon Contributor ·
In ten words or less, complete the following sentence: "I don't use Linux because..."

I'll start with "...I'm required to use Windows for work."

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by CuteElf In reply to Don't install Knoppix


That's more than 10 words.


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by jc williams In reply to Don't install Knoppix and download the live version, burn to bootable cd and fire it up. Recently installed Ubuntu 5.10 and *really* like it. It comes with Open Office and does just about everything I want right off the cd. Those handful of things that I want that are not there are very easy to download and install.

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Knoppix install works fine

by cls In reply to Don't install Knoppix

I don't know what "they" you're talking about, but I wonder what their issue is.

Knoppix is not a "mashup" of things from different distributions. Knoppix is a rather clever Debian installation, with a couple of hardware recognition features derived from Red Hat's Kudzu. The main components of Knoppix 4 are straight out of Debian 3.1 "Stable." It uses a stock Debian kernel plus the Union File System as a loadable kernel module.

I installed Knoppix on a laptop and used it for about a year. Worked great. I wouldn't install it on a colocated server that I expect to have to do distribution upgrades on from home. That's what Debian 3.1 is for. But if I only have a few minutes to do a workstation install, on a machine I won't have to maintain remotely, Knoppix is on my short list. My biggest issue with knoppix-installer is the partitioning isn't very flexible. It wants to install in one big partition. I prefer separate partitions for root and /tmp. Root contains mishap recovery tools and should be small and static. /tmp should be mounted noexec except when you're installing packages.

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I disagree!!

by Jay E Court In reply to Don't install Knoppix

I'm a big Linux user and i disagree with NOT installing Knoppix. It's a great distro on CD/DVD or on the hard drive. If you are having trouble installing Knoppix to your HD, i reccommend visiting this site. This is a great step by step on how to install Knoppix to your HD. Enjoy!!

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Good Question

by notetaker In reply to Ditto

I don't use Linux because I thought he was one of the Peanuts characters.

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I have no reason to.

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Ten words or less: "I don ...

We don't use it at work.

At home it takes some time to make sure my various anti-malware utilities are kept up to date. That's nothing compared to the time than it would take me to backup my HD, install Linux, find and install drivers (the continued discussions of Linux / on-board modem conflicts are discouraging), learn how to use it, locate the OSS counterparts of my Windows-based apps, install them, learn how to use them, install an Windows emulator for those apps that don't have OSS counterparts, teach my wife how to use it, etc.

Why bother? Free software? I don't spend $50 a year on software now. Security? Never been a problem. I keep all my data backed up. Even if I have to rebuild the system from scratch, Ghost will be faster than learning Linux. Anti-MS feelings? I don't bear any ill-will towards Redmond; I've never had a problem with their products that I can't solve quicker than learning an alternative.

No, that's not 10 words, at least not in Base 10.

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< $50 per year?

by jbush In reply to I have no reason to.

That seems awfully low.
Do you mind if I ask what sort of software you use that costs so little (I assume we're talking about the home environment here)?

I would suggest (for personal use rather than as a work tool as mentioned elsewhere) that you have a look at a live CD of one of the modern distributions.

Whether you choose to implement it in your home environment is entirely up to you, of course. I know I always feel a bit better about what I'm using when I know what the options are.

Many of us dual boot Windows and linux without any problems, and the upshot of not being locked into a specific software set or operating system is very gratifying.

I know one of the key reasons I use open source software is because (at least as far as the software I use goes) I can have the freedom of platform mobility as well as the benifits of standardised software (the GIMP, Blender, Firefox, Inkscape,, Eclipse, MPlayer, jEdit, etc. all give me - more or less - the same experience across all the platforms I use), and because I'm not dealing with any proprietary data formats, I'm free to move to alternative software should I choose.

Few people spend as much time on support forums saying "My new Ubuntu installation worked out of the box!" as they would "I can't get this BSD thing to work. Grar.", which I think accounts for the perception that getting hardware to run under linux can be tricky (admittedly I've got one or two bits that took a bit of effort, but before I installed, I did some research to see what was and wasn't supported).

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by CharlieSpencer In reply to < $50 per year?

The software I use to run a fantasy racing league is $25 annually - . Now that I think about it, that isn't even my money; it comes out of the league dues, along with the 1and1 hosting fee. I treat myself to a game or two a year from PopCap ( ) occasionally - $20. That's it. I use my home box for running that league, web surfing, e-mail, MS Money, and some low end games. No MORPG, no multimedia, no DVD drive, no music, no movies, no photo editing. JPG's get saved just as they came from the camera. I have a legal copy of Office 03 I received from MS as a promo; only Word and Excel are installed.

I appreciate your suggestion, but I still haven't seen a reason to try a live CD on my home machine, much less set it up dual boot, other than as an academic exercise. Multiple platforms and proprietary formats are not issues for me. I haven't heard of many of the programs you named, but I probably don't use their MS / proprietary counterparts. I'm sure almost any distro would work with the basic hardware I have, except possibly the modem. But why bother? I could be weeding the rosebed instead.

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Still doesn't add up

by jbush In reply to Yep.

Does the cost of your operating system factor into this (when spread across the years at $50 intervals (or less if you're buying something else that year)?

Do you use third party firewall or antivirus software? A packaged version of Norton AntiVirus with one year's subscription retails here for about the $75AU mark.

You claimed a "why bother" attitude towards free and open source software. Within that context if you use any spyware, antivirus packages or imaging software (such as Norton Ghost) those alone would put you above budget.

Linux sometimes has issues with dialup modems (mostly with 'winmodems' though), but unfortunately, without broadband, linux is far less feasible to use in terms of getting updates, software, etc.

Whether you check it out or not is your call. Gardening is good though.

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Sure it does,

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Still doesn't add up

The OS came with the computer. If I was a business and amoritizing the purchase, you would have a point. I'm not; I'm an individual who paid for the OS up front with the box. If you want to separate the cost of the hardware from the software (which Dell didn't do on the invoice), then I was over budget once, four years ago.

I'm using McAfee VirusScan 8 on the company license, negotiated to include employees' home computers including updates. The basic versions of ZoneAlarm, Search and Destroy, and AdAware are free, as are the updates. My copy of Ghost 7 is a legal copy with CD and license, taken home with departmental permission when we purchased a new version at work in exchange for a $10 donation to the employee scholarship fund. It is no longer in use on any machine at work. It's old but it does what I need. We frequently sell or give away older hardware and software.

I don't have a "why bother" attitude toward FOSS. I'm viewing this in Firefox right now. I love Gravity when I'm hitting the newsgroups. Free software is not limited to Linux apps. I don't care if it's open source since I wouldn't know what to do with the code anyway.

"without broadband, linux is far less feasible to use in terms of getting updates, software, etc."

Thanks for the info. I don't see myself getting broadband until the prices drop to under $25 U.S., without all those fine-print requirements that I also bundle TV cable and telephone service. I don't do enough to justify the cost.

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