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Ten words or less: "I really wish Microsoft would..."

By Jay Garmon Contributor ·
In ten words or less, complete the following sentence: "I really wish Microsoft would..."

I'll start with "...build a super-lean version of Vista for old PCs."

Just once, I'd like to see a Windows release aimed at the existing install base, rather than designed to force an upgrade to bigger and better hardware. Either that, or they should just buy Intel and quit posturing like the two companies *aren't* colluding to keep the compulsory upgrade cycle going.

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sounds like you need to do some research

by heml0ck In reply to apps currently running

You can easily find these thing by:
1) use MSCONFIG.
2) use the registry editor to edit the {run} key under HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\WINDOWS\CURRENTVERSION.
Be careful deleting things if you don't know what they are. IF you need help determining what is running and what shouldn't be, use a tool like Hijackthis or StartupList. http://www.merijn.org/downloads.html
This info is easy to find if you know where to look.

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Please tell us

by jmgarvin In reply to sounds like you need to d ...

How do you stop MS IM and remove it forever (without having it magically re-install)?

Yup...that's right...you can't...

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which one?

by heml0ck In reply to Please tell us

windows messenger or msn messenger?
For windows messenger:
Windows Messenger 4.5 or later versions on a Windows XP Home Edition-based computer or on a Windows XP Professional-based computer

Warning If you use Registry Editor incorrectly, you may cause serious problems that may require you to reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee that you can solve problems that result from using Registry Editor incorrectly. Use Registry Editor at your own risk.

Note This method prevents programs that use the Messenger APIs from using Windows Messenger. Outlook 2002, Outlook Express 6, and the Remote Assistance feature in Windows XP are examples of programs that use these APIs and that depend on Windows Messenger.

1. Start Registry Editor. To do this, click Start, click Run, type regedit.exe, and then click OK.

If the following registry subkey already exists, go to step 6:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Messenger\Client
2. Click the following registry subkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft
3. On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click Key. Type Messenger for the name of the new registry key, and then press ENTER.
4. Click the following registry subkey: key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Messenger
5. On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click Key. Type Client for the name of the new registry key, and then press ENTER.
6. Click the following registry subkey: key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Messenger\Client
7. On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click DWORD Value. Type PreventRun for the name of the new DWORD value and then press ENTER.
8. Right-click the PreventRun value that you created in step 7, and then click Modify. In theValue data box, type 1, and then click OK.
9. Quit Registry Editor.

No, it doesn't uninstall it, but it does keep it from running.

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Userfriendly OS ?

by pkr In reply to which one?

In many of the linux/windows discussions linux is always accused of being user unfriendly, whereas Windows is intuitive and anybody can manage it.

I'd like to see my mother do the above easy removal of an unwanted piece of SW, and I'll cross my fingers when she boots the PC afterwards.

Why isn't there simply an 'uninstall' button in the add/remove SW panel ?

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Easy, no?

by jmgarvin In reply to which one?

Plus that doesn't mean it won't come back during updates.

The problem here is that Windows is "easy," yet I can't even turn off MSN without regedit!! How easy is that?

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actually it won't come back when the keys are gone

by heml0ck In reply to Easy, no?

as far as MSN, just use the uninstaller.

It is only the security-hole-Windows Messenger that you have to hack out.

I agree; one of the big problems with the windows family is that they look easy. That gives a false sense that "anyone can do it." IMHO this is entirely misleading. To use any computer system, you need to have a modicum of intelligence.

The thinking "I'd like to see my mother do the above easy removal of an unwanted piece of SW" is erroneous. Would you trust anyone to fix something about which they had limited knowledge and expect things to go smoothly? IF they follow the instructions AND there are no unforeseen events (like a power outage during an uninstall {yesterday}) then the process is straight forward.

The comment I made is that "This info is easy to find." I made no allusion to how easy, safe or smart implementing said info might be.

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An analogy

by cubeslave In reply to actually it won't come ba ...

The analogy I came up with is Windows is kind of like ice skating in a swamp.

As long as you are gliding along on the surface every time is fine, but the second you have to go below the surface?

As long as you have enought spare CPU, memory and drive space, you have no idea what is down there. And most people don't care so long as nothing trips them up and send them crashing through the surface.

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Have look at this web page

by nentech In reply to actually it won't come ba ...

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_messenger_remove.htm

Remove Windows Messenger

Help with windows xp

The file sysoc.inf

Change
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,7
To
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,,7
(Take out hide)

Then try Add/Remove Windows Componets
You will see a new Windows Messenger at the bottom.

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So your "simply uninstall process" includes editing the registry then?

by Neon Samurai In reply to which one?

You had a point with "seeing all running processes" - crtl+alt+del then "T" for Task Manager. Yup, you can see most running processes easily.

As for removing them, you lost it at "open registry editor". Why is it not a checkbox int he add/remove Windows components?

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