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The best OS ever without a doubt

By NZ_Justice ·
Nobody would use a PC if Microsoft hadn't invented windows. How can it not be the greatest OS ever. sure bugs, but those bugs get fixed. sure frustration but what isn't frustrating in IT. Linux you can be learning that for life, then die and still have accomplished nothing. Mac, it's not windows, there functionality is sub standard because they don't want to be sued by MS. A lot of the web would be missing if there was no windows. Just about every application out there that is worth using is made for windows. There is no good alternative. Linux gurus are now working for microsoft. Open source has no direction every step forward is a step backward. Windows OS is the wheel, we use to drive our pc's. Only the US MOD does anything good with other technology, and no average user currently has access to that ****. sure Microsoft are a big evil bloodsucking entity but so is coca cola and I love coke (the drink). So yep Windows is the best OS ever, nothing will ever beat it.

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Can't we all just agree on a few things...

by tom.x.spencer In reply to Not so, Aussie...

Ok Microsoft is a big evil bloodsucking entity and a necessary evil at the same time. I will give old Bill this what other company in the world can get away with selling a product that is still clearly in BETA phases and people buy it up figure out the problems and then let MS fix it in a service pack. I actually like it when people find the problems in the OS. It boils down to Microsoft is letting people DEBUG their problems and then comes up with a solution to fix it. (MOST OF THE TIME) At the end of the day Microsoft still has some of the best offerings for Home User, Business Users, and sometimes debatable when it comes to Graphic Arts.

Personally I like the fact that MS listens to what people would like to see and tries to give it to them free within the OS. Shows that they have some compassion about not charging us out the but for things like media player or browsers. Now there are grumblings about them even adding a Anti-Virus Lite in the OS. Who knows. I use MAC's, I use Linux, and I Use Mocrosoft to do my daily job at an Engineering firm and I will have to say all of them have their good points and all of them SUCK at the same time. It is all a matter of personal preference.

If you are a coder and do not care for eyecandy and like to live in the command line world use Linux. If you want to do graphics or open up a digital recording studio use a Mac. You want Games, pretty decent productivity products (Office, Money, ETC..), easy networking use Microsoft.

Microsoft got here by what every successful company and business model show you to do. Create a product that people want, if someone does it better figure out how to one up them, listen to what your public wants, and try to make it as cost effective for society while still making a profit for your self. Which I can cleary say they have done all of the above.

Not to mention MS gives countless ammounts of money back to charities, education organizations, and other areas of society.

They are not all bad. The OS has flaws but **** we are human we make mistakes. Computers are only as smart as we make them.

As a side not Word Perfect has sucked since it left the DOS days. Corel Trashed them as well as most of the things it touches.

Then on a final point if it was not for Microsoft most IT people in the world would not have a job. My bets are with Microsoft. Wether we like it or not the are the best choice and the best OS for 90% of the people on this planet.

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You poor misguided soul...

by Jessie In reply to fair enough

Winblows is not the best OS ever... but Microsoft's antitrust practices make it the best known and best marketed. You do recall that little suit against MS, do you not? The one where they were found GUILTY of breaking the antitrust laws, a.k.a. predatory business practices? Their predatory business practices are the reason they're the best known software in the world, certainly NOT because their software is the most stable or best featured. Now that people have a choice, well... people are lemmings... they'll walk right over the edge of a cliff if the guy in front of them did it.

Thanks for that little trip down memory lane. I'm not sure how many times this thread or one just like it has been posted, but I so dearly love beating people over the head with logic knowing that they will discredit or completely ignore all the facts anyway.

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Hey Jessie Long Time No See

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to You poor misguided soul.. ...

I hope things are going well for you and the little Miss.

I'm still dirty about you not setting up a web can and broadcasting the birth but I'll eventually recover. If I can continue to afford the therapy anyway.

Hows the job hunting going anyway? Maybe you'll get lucky and your sisters will allow you out of IT into a Real Job with reasonable hours and paid overtime instead of the rubbish that we all have to put up with working IT.

Lets know if I can help in any way.


Col ]:)

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point taken.

by NZ_Justice In reply to You poor misguided soul.. ...

But those aren't the only MS business pratacies. They do Human Computer Interaction reasearch and they out-source parts to independant companies to build them. It's not good company practice to ignore the competition. Despite the law suite they just seem to work harder at doing the same thing under a diffrent name. And best dos not have to be definied as stable or best featured. MS products are feature ritch (and that casues lots of problems). Winblows can be the best OS ever, just because all the lemmings use it and it makes them happy.

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You have a weird...

by noyoki In reply to point taken.

concept of being "great"...

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Therein lies the rub

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to point taken.

Commercially only a complete idiot would call it a failure, technically it's a wall to wall f'up though. I've lost count of the times it's internal inconsistencies, failures and plain design errors have forced me to produce sub-standard code or to exceed the amount of effort that should have been required to make something worthwhile that runs over it. Everyday at work when I've been using windows I've had to cope with the fact that MS's commercial success could be my employers commercial failure. Any all things to all men technology will never meet anyones requirements, by definition it tries to get some of everyones.

P.S. in software engineering a feature is a bug it would cost too much to get rid of.

Have you used any other OS's ?

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Many of you forget

by why_me In reply to point taken.

Not all people are techies. Most users out there are non-technical AND live on a budget. MS offers a median solution. It's cheaper and easier for the majority of people to buy a Windows box and use it than it is to buy a Mac (easier but more expensive) or to use Linux (cheaper but more difficult to learn how to use). Most of you need to step outside and get some air, then realize that not everyone has their head burried in the computer culture. They want to buy something, take it home, set it up, and know how to use it without a lifetime of study. Without Windows 95, computers would not be nearly so widespread as they are, and the information driven world as we know it would not exist except to the 'nerds'.

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by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to point taken.

I walked into a newsagent today and had a look at their computer magazines. One XP Mag,1 Mac Mag, 3 General Computer Mags and 6 Pure Linux Mags and that is what sells in that place.

Maybe I'm missing something but I doubt it very much that there are Computer Nerds hanging out at this newsagent buying all the Linux mags.

Yes I do agree with you that 95 did make PC's more palatable way back then but now I see far too many people complaining about the shortcomings of Windows and wanting something else to use.

They are sick and tied of software that doesn't perform as it should and is riddled with Undocumented Features, has no security to speak of at all and even worse they don't actually own what they have paid for.

Can you tell me of one other product that after you pay for you don't actually own it and can have the makers come in at any time demand its return without compensation and demand that you remove their software from your system?

From most of the MS Certified Partners meetings that I've gone to I've seen lots of pimply faced youngsters in suits telling each other just how much money they have made and how they have ripped off their customers. This type of practice can not last!

They are unconcerned that they have a very bad business reputation and I've seen plenty of them shut up shop over night and remove all the customers products that they are holding and just disappear of the face of the planet. Then open a shop 3 weeks latter under a different name and proceed to do it all again.

You may be happy to work like this but I for one am sick and tied of cleaning up the mess that they fools create and then what makes it even worse is that everyone in Commercial IT are considered as Rip Offs who are out to get everything possible and are unconcerned for their customers.

I like repeat business and I treat my customers as a valuable asset not a disposable trash heap once I've got as much money as possible out of them.

Col ]:)

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Yes Really

by why_me In reply to point taken.

Why is it then that people that still have a computer that is old, and can run a free distro of Linux CHOOSE to go and buy a new computer with the latest version of Windows on it? As more and more younger people get educated on PC's and the various operating systems earlier in life, there may be a push towards using more Linux in the future, however, it was still Windows that brought the computer home for an overwhelming majority of the users that we have today. Without the evil Bill Gates, we wouldn't be where we are today. Was the Model T the greatest car of all time? No, but with out it and what it brought to the table, the automobile would have remained a toy strictly for the wealthy for a much longer period.

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No Really

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to point taken.

Marketing and distribution obviously.

As for your earlier point I was in IT before windows and none of it was home computing. You might have to thank Bill, for your career, neither I nor HAL9000, nor many many others have to. So you seem to be promoting windows out of self interest, I don't have a problem with that at all. Just don't expect my self interest to coincide with yours. I've probaly forgotten a lot over time, certainly I've forgotten which version of windows wasn't chock full of faults.

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