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The Government Is Spying on Americans

By zlitocook ·
The Government Is Spying on Americans

Documents obtained by the ACLU under the Freedom of Information Act reveal that the FBI is using its Joint Terrorism Task Forces to gather extensive information about peaceful organizations. Recently, President Bush acknowledged giving explicit and secret authorization for warrantless electronic eavesdropping and physical searches by the National Security Agency. Now, there is reason to believe that the Pentagon, too, is illegally gathering and sharing private and protected information.

The actions of the president, his administration, and these agencies are part of a broad pattern of disregard for the rule of law in the name of national security. The ACLU is calling for investigations and full disclosure of records to determine if oaths of office were broken or federal laws violated.
Look at this wab site.

Well it looks like they can do what ever they want!
And I will get more emails saying thatit is for our own protection.

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"Seems like"?

by jdclyde In reply to I am now in favor of "dom ...

there is no "seems like". It is a proven fact.

Why do you think it is that all the foaming at the mouth liberal progressives LOVE the ACLU?

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There is a way

by Nasty Jack In reply to The Government Is Spying ...

Common sense tells us that we have to make adjustments for immediate access to certain data by the government in national security cases involving individual privacy. My plan that gives consumers control over private information makes this provision, but only with approval from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which Bush conveniently skirted recently. A little Congressional oversight might also be appropriate, along with individual notification. In other words, if everybody is checking everybody else, we just might be able to keep everybody honest.

There is really only one way to protect the use of consumers? names and personal data. Pass federal legislation to give the individual control over their name and private information, and, while we?re at it, pay them for its use. You can read about it in my blog, The Dunning Letter at:

Jack E. Dunning
Cave Creek, AZ

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Uh ... Take a Closer Look

by Evisscerator In reply to The Government Is Spying ...

With the revelation by the President that the US Gov't has been spying on people in America, you might just take another gander at "Project Echelon" .... A way for the US Gov't to do spying on every form of communications possible in a facility built and located in Canada, out of the reach and prying eyes of the US Constitution and privacy advocates.

"Project Echelon" scans all telephone, internet and other communications for key words and then cross referrences that information with other information it collects.

The US Gov't could not have done this by building the facility in the United States. Several world policing organzations make use of the information collected by "Project Echelon".

If people in this country want and expect their privacy to be protected, why are they not outraged and vocal about this abuse of power via a loophole in US Constitutional Law ?

I am outraged. Though I believe the US Gov't has a Constitutional Duty to protect our borders and our Citizens from foreign invasion, I do not believe they have the right or the priviledge to farm information from private Citizens using programs like "Project Echelon".

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Who cares

by gcheris In reply to The Government Is Spying ...

If you do not have anything to hide it won't matter.

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How can you say that?

by jdclyde In reply to Who cares

It is very important to our country that we protect the privacy of terrorists, because if we don't hurt their feelings then we can all run through the flowers in peace together!

After all, we lived in harmony with the terrorists (who weren't even terrorists) until President Bush came along. Once he term limits out, I am quite sure that all the "freedom fighters" will go back to living in peace in their tranquil home lands! They ARE the religion of peace and love, don'tchaknow? They will lead the world in peace and understanding once again, spreading their peaceful way of life to the world!

Note, the only peace you will get from them if your not part of the "right" section of Islam is the peace of the grave.

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French govt spies on their citizens (edited)

by M_a_r_k In reply to The Government Is Spying ...

I read an article in the newspaper yesterday that compared the policies of the French government and American govt regarding anti-terrorism laws. The French have much more leeway when it comes to spying on their citizens and holding them in jail merely on suspicion. They've had this looser policy since the 1980s when they were the target of several terrorist incidents. The French have massive files on people suspected of asssociating with terrorism. It was pretty interesting and enlightening since so many people think the French are wusses.

Search Google for "French anti-terrorism". Here's one article:

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Using the Frogs to distract?

by jdclyde In reply to French govt spies on thei ...

It doesn't matter.

People here are just looking for any reason to complain about the current administration, and if it wasn't this "issue" it would be something else.

It is all political posturing and the mindless masses are stupid enough to fall for it and get all worked up. Perfect example is the big non-even of the Cheney shooting. How DARE he not call the NY Times right away? They should have been called before the police and doctors because they are MUCH more important! Imagine calling the police instead of the press? What does he have to hide?????

And as far as the Frogs goes, it have been PROVEN that it doesn't MATTER how many other nations are WORSE at something than the US, because being better than them we are held to a higher standard (I guess).

Yeah, how about adding some crediblity to the UN "human rights" by making sure all of the members on that board are shining examples of human rights? Nahhhh! Just put them there so they can wash over any reports that aren't against the US.
(this is usually the place that OZ will rain down on us, but he has been pre-disposed lately)

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