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The NRA says put armed guards in schools..

By CharlieSpencer ·
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/21/nra-chief-urges-armed-guards-in-every-school-dismisses-calls-for-gun-control/?intcmp=trending

Putting armed guards in schools -may- be a solution for schools, but what about movie theaters, malls, houses of worship, and other locations that have been the sites of killings this year? Is the solution to put armed guards EVERYWHERE? Maybe this is some kind of jobs program? How are we paying for all these guards? How about a fat tax on ammunition?

NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre :"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,"

No mention of even trying to prevent the bad guy from getting the gun in the first place. No call for stricter enforcement of existing laws, or suggestion of improved mental health diagnosis and treatment, or mention of closing the screening exception for gun shows. Just let the bad guy get his gun; we can wait until he's using it and then shoot it out.

"Will you at least admit it's possible that ... 26 innocent lives might have been spared that day," he (LaPierre) said, if the shooter had encountered "qualified armed security."

Sure, if Mr. LaPierre will admit it's possible that confiscating personal firearms might also have spared innocent lives. His armed guards are a reactive force, neither proactive nor preventative. No anti-social gunman is going to be deterred by their presence; he's ready to dying anyway. They won't get there in time to save the first half-dozen people, but they might reduce the body count (assuming they get there before the gunman suicides). It doesn't solve the problem, it only minimizes the consequences. Maybe only 8 parents will bury a child, instead of 20.

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I'm sure one of you can name the school and principal involved for me.

by Deadly Ernest In reply to The NRA says put armed gu ...

I remember a story in the papers, and later a film, about a school principal (back in the 1980s I think) who took over a inner city school that was all but run by the local gangs. One of the things he did to reduce violence on the school grounds was to reduce the number of entrances students could come in by and placed armed guards there with metal detectors and orders to confiscate any knives, knuckleduster, guns, clubs etc the students tried to bring into the school. He was so successful in turning the school and the neighbourhood around that they gave him an award and he made the papers.

I also remember reading more recent cases about a few other schools where they had inter-gang issues on school grounds and they introduced metal detectors supervised by armed guards. This stopped the students from bringing guns and knives to school and violence at the school reduced. Over the last few years I've seen lots of news articles from the US about security staff and security guards at urban schools being involved in various matters - which suggest there are already security staff at many schools anyway.

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Won't help

by Slayer_ In reply to The NRA says put armed gu ...

A crowded room with an assault weapon, armed guards would have no effect, you could kill 20 within seconds, far faster than any response time from an armed guard.
And that's assuming the guards aren't shot first Matrix style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zga3wCCJt5o

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I suspect the idea is an access point controlled by armed guards

by Deadly Ernest In reply to Won't help

that ensures all entering are disarmed - guns, knives, knuckledusters etc.

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Smash a window, jump in and shoot everyone

by Slayer_ In reply to I suspect the idea is an ...

Are they going to put bullet proof glass next?

Or even simpler, shoot the guard first.

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in either case, the noise starts everyone running away -nt

by Deadly Ernest In reply to Smash a window, jump in a ...
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Except for the ones locked in their Classrooms.

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to in either case, the noise ...

They get to sit and wait for the guy making all the noise to come and let them out of the locked room.

Col

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Now a nutcase is shooting firefighters on Xmas eve

by Slayer_ In reply to The NRA says put armed gu ...

Seriously, if your anti gun, just get the **** out of America, you would be safer in a war zone.

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Slayer, the first rule of left and right wing dictatorships is to

by Deadly Ernest In reply to Now a nutcase is shooting ...

disarm the general population.

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And the first rule of all Government is

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Slayer, the first rule of ...

Dumb Down the Electors so that they are more likely to vote for you next time.

Col

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Exactly right

by AV . In reply to Slayer, the first rule of ...

It will never happen here.

AV

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