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By santeewelding ·
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I had occasion to use the word, "all", in a sentence. The prompt, of course, was singular third-person, "is", as in, "all is". Trouble being, "all" can't be, "is". It might with argument be, "are", explicitly or implicitly, the latter of which I chose in the sentence in order to get the job done.

"All" can't be "is" because "all" can't be tidied up into singular with boundary.

Do you ken?

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He demonstrated his knowledge of the language

by NickNielsen In reply to Subject and Verb Agreemen ...

by ignoring the rules...

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Out of sight...

by jck In reply to He demonstrated his knowl ...
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OK, why not?

by seanferd In reply to The other day

All of this stuff are? Wait, no: All your base are belong to us.

i think it is a bit like the way we deal with amounts. Some things can be definitely quantified, other nouns do not lend themselves to such. (How much vs. how many.)

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by santeewelding In reply to OK, why not?

Means, All; shorthand for, Absolute, capitalized. The only way you get away with this is to set "all" equal to "is"; not, subject to verb.

Boxfiddler played with it above. Only, there can be no alternative to absolute "is" -- not even, "is not". Unsurprising, since both something and nothing comprise "is".

Thou art that. Both. Holds for all that is.

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All, absolute, capitalized.

by seanferd In reply to "all"
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In your example...

by AnsuGisalas In reply to OK, why not?

the problem is with "stuff", not with "all... are".
"Stuff" can't never "are", because it's a mass noun.

Foodstuffs are a different matter, on account of pluralization making it into a sort noun. Like this wine is nice, those wines are horrible - wine is a mass noun in singular, but a sort noun in the plural. With a classifier the mass noun word becomes quantifiable without turning it into a sort noun : "These bottles of wine are spoiled"... in this case it could all be the same sort of wine, or it could be different sorts or any combination of the two - it's a singular object noun (a different type than the other two).

There are also set nouns which denote a set of entities, these often stay singular even with numeric quantification (in languages where set nouns are the norm, most nouns behave like english "sheep" - one sheep, two sheep, etc.
More accurately they can be seen as having a finite, definite set of entities to choose from and the numeric quantifier works similarly to the english sentences "three of sheep" or "three of the (relevant) population of X".

Sorry if I got lectury, I just thought I'd share some strange trivia.

Have I mentioned that there are languages where numerals (and colors) are handled like verbs?
"The sheep was threeing on the lawn, eating"
"My uncle was the sheep blacking of the family"

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by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to In your example...

Making me the sheep blacking... :^0

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by seanferd In reply to Ooooh!

Making me the catfish blacking so I can make me some blackened catfish. Mmmm.

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by seanferd In reply to In your example...

No, I find it all to be quite interesting.

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by pfeiffep In reply to Exactly.

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