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July 1, 2002 at 2:56 am #2326287
The panacea of Palladium
Lockedby debate · about 21 years, 9 months ago
Tell us what you think about Microsoft’s Palladium project, as featured in the latest Internet Security Focus e-newsletter. Do you foresee your company implementing it? Why or why not? What does the term trustworthy computing mean to you? How do youthink Microsoft should tackle its trustworthy computing initiative from a developer’s standpoint?
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July 7, 2002 at 11:28 pm #3593972
When this happens, ….
by j.g.camp · about 21 years, 9 months ago
In reply to The panacea of Palladium
Linux will be stronger and more developed. Not that I hate Windows, but it just gets old hearing that those who get the software legally have to jump thru hoops to operate it legally. If anyone chooses to upgrade or get a better system they have to buy a new OS, this will never fly. The issue here is money, pure and simple, it’s not the consumer’s security. Never has, never will be. If Microsoft and other PC hardware makers adopt this, guess what, Apple and Linux are alternatives to the controlfreaks @ Microsoft and I will switch. In the process of doing it anyway.
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July 8, 2002 at 4:53 am #3593187
A couple of simple questions
by dale.bryant · about 21 years, 9 months ago
In reply to When this happens, ….
The politics of the MS monopoly aside, I have a couple of basic questions about Palladium.
1) Under Palladium, how does an IT manager move a legally obtained application from a user’s old PC to her/his new one — especially (quickly) in an emergency due to hardware failure? Or more importantly during a disaster recovery phase of a Continuity of Operations Plan (COOP)?
2) The Yarden article and several of the comments seem to imply that once Palladium is “adopted” at an enterprise, thatfreeware, shareware, open source SW software would instantly cease to operate. Cannot anti-piracy enabled SW simply deal with itself and refuse to run on the wrong computer without affecting unrelated software?
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July 8, 2002 at 12:03 am #3593278
Palladium
by kurt · about 21 years, 9 months ago
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Trustworthy computing to my environment means:
Secure transactions including credit cards
Freedom from hacker attacks
Freedom from virus attacks
No abuse of email addresses
Ability to take action against unwelcome spam, particularly porn
The current cost of software is much too high because of the monopoly situation created by Microsoft and a few other companies.
Palladium will increase these costs further and probably boost open systems like Linux and associatyed software.
Shareware is a good idead and should not be killed.
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July 8, 2002 at 12:09 am #3593274
Who is fooling who?
by fpiera · about 21 years, 9 months ago
In reply to The panacea of Palladium
Mixing security with digital rights management stinks a little bit of the hidden intentions of MS. Both things have nothing to do with each other. If users did not trust the present systems e-commerce would not have started, and is developing at areasonable speed. The problem with e-commerce is that nobody did a sound and reliable market study to find if there was any need for it and if anybody did need it. The big bubble exploded because there was a lot of wishfull thinking and little market studies.
Best regads,
Fernando Piera
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July 8, 2002 at 12:11 am #3593273
Hypocrisy gone mad
by golfloon · about 21 years, 9 months ago
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Given that Microsoft have used software piracy as a marketing strategy to great affect to disseminate their products and stimulate brand loyalty in emerging markets it seems somewhat hypocritical that they are now bleeting on about software piracy. At the rate they are going all thye are going to do is alienate their current clients and push them towards alternative vendors.
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July 8, 2002 at 12:32 am #3593266
Actually……..
by jfors · about 21 years, 9 months ago
In reply to The panacea of Palladium
I didn’t give Palladium much thought initially for exactly the reasons that Mr. Yarden stated in the article although I saw plenty of issues with the idea.
Given the text in MS’s WMP EULA though, this is starting to look a bit more sinister than I like. I’m not by nature a Microsoft basher, but first it was product activation. Then they in essence give themselves admin rights on your computer with the new EULA, and when you add Palladium on top of that………
If you look at the pattern, it would seem to indicate that Microsoft is looking to decide what you can have on your computer, how you use it and more. The last time I checked, I don’t remember the definition of ubiquitous including the phrase “Microsoft knows best, Microsoft will take care of you” in it.
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July 8, 2002 at 5:44 am #3593155
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by mlanphea · about 21 years, 9 months ago
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I don’t claim to fully understand Palladium. But, if it interferes in my choices in software, or prevents me from performing hardware swaps, or upgrades…it will never be on one of my PC’s. I think MS has been having stragegy sessions to determine how they can keep their profits up and figure they have to control our PC’s for us to make sure we pay MS for every move we make. A lot of people have started the move to Linux and other open system software. I would think Palladium will help others make the same decision.
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July 8, 2002 at 8:44 pm #3592878
Evil Empire
by burkew0 · about 21 years, 9 months ago
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I certainly support artists rights to royalties and such, but it would appear M$ may be using smoke and mirrors to camoflage their real goals.
Of course AMD and Intel are on board they sell more chips. M$ is intentionally confusing and misleading the non technical users by touting increased security (BS) FOr who ? Certainly not the users. Now they can snoop on every little thing. -
July 9, 2002 at 4:38 pm #3592488
What if ???
by hardware & software · about 21 years, 9 months ago
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What happen if i change to a faster proccessor or change the motherboard or hard drive for any reason?
Does the software will recognize my machine as the same?, if not that’s really stupid.
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July 9, 2002 at 11:12 pm #3592417
big…
by adri.croukamp · about 21 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What if ???
do you really think that companies like ms and intel would have such small things like hardware and system upgrades go unnoticed?
i think that this is really a step in the right direction… if programmers write software and sell it, it could mean that this would be the only way that they can stop pirating of their own software and get paid what they deserve!
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July 11, 2002 at 6:41 am #3591734
He he he
by hardware & software · about 21 years, 9 months ago
In reply to big…
I’m not saying that they “could” miss That “SMALL THINGS”, Micro$oft ever forget that “SMALL THINGS”
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