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The Rating Meter should go live this week

By Jay Garmon Contributor ·
As discussed in an earlier thread, we're deploying a new signature system for discussions posts which will include a rating meter. The meter output is based on an evolving algorithm of site participation.

Now, many of you were recruited to the TRI ranks because you "set the bar" for community participation, so some of you might rightly expect to score pretty highly on this first incarnation of the meter. You will, at least relative to the rest of the group.

However, while our heavy hitters will certainly be the highest scorers, but you won't peg the meter. That's because the meter algorithm accounts for participation in features that aren't built yet. You can't score points in these areas because the areas don't exist, so don't be suprised when the best of the best still have ample opportunity to improve.

As we phase in features during 2005, I'm sure you guys will be able to race up the charts as fast or faster than anyone...especially since you'll know about the features first. So now you know.

That, and you guys are usually far better at fielding questions from the community masses than we are, so it's best to keep you informed as much as we can.


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Grrr! It shouldn't do that

by sMoRTy71 In reply to indeed it is

The meter should appear on one line. We had quite a time getting this to display properly on both Firefox and IE on Windows.

Honestly, I doubt anybody in our location is running Debian for us to test it.

Is anybody else seeing the meter wrap to a second line? If so, let me know what OS and browser you're using and I'll see if I can tweak the style sheet some more.

Thanks for the QA, apotheon.

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to: house and sMoRTy71

by apotheon In reply to indeed it is

house: No biggie. I ended up increasing the image size in GIMP and smoothed out the edges so that it's pretty again. This was the first time I've tried to increase image size in GIMP and adjust it to look good at the new size, and I discovered it's much, much easier than it was in Photoshop. This pleases me. Heh.

sMoRTy71: Quite welcome. I do what I can. Additional information about my setup follows, in case it matters. I'm actually reasonably certain that the fact it's Debian is irrelevant.

kernel: 2.4.25
window manager: WindowMaker
resolution: 1152x864
graphics: ATI Radeon 9700
character set: ISO-8859-1

Viewing the page with character encoding set to UTF-8 (Unicode) instead of ISO-8859-1 (Western) doesn't change the look at all.

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SO that's why Firefox!

by Oz_Media In reply to indeed it is

A while ago the discussion about who and why they use Firefox was posted by a TR editor (I think).

Now we see the REAL truth, if nobody used Firefox, you didn't have to fix your code!! VERY cunning!

Just joking :)


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To: Oz Re: Firefox

by house In reply to indeed it is

I've recently decided to give Firefox a second chance. I'm using it right now without a single problem. I've defended IE though, because I still believe that it is the best choice in a corporate environment.

Right now at home, Firefox rules. I had some issues with the MS port beta, but since 1.0, it looks good. I also tried Netscape for the first time since the 90's and soon got rid of it. Too much information and clutter for me.

I didn't see any problems on this site regarding any of those browsers. Must be the "perfect" Debian distribution acting up. Joke.


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"perfect" Debian

by apotheon In reply to indeed it is

Linux is Linux is Linux. All that really differentiates the various distributions as OSes is A) the software management system it uses (how software is installed, tracked, and removed and, to a lesser extent, how it is configured), and B) the installation procedure for the distro. Somewhere between these two points is the consideration of what is installed by default.

If you choose to install all the same things with Debian that are installed with Fedora, though, they're exactly the same thing when you're done, excepting the back-end to package management. In fact, though the system is nowhere near as mature on Fedora as it is on Debian, Fedora can use the apt system as well. Of course, a case could be made for simply switching to Debian if you are using apt with Fedora anyway.

Yes, by the way, I noticed you were making a joke about Debian being "perfect", and I appreciate the joke with some amusement. I just figured I'd take the opportunity to point something out. Like I said, the fact that it's Debian I'm using should be functionally immaterial/irrelevant to the difference in display of the meter. More relevant would be configuration details and software packages installed.

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LOL To: apotheon

by house In reply to indeed it is

I am perfectly aware of everything you just said. Just taking a jab at your undying love for the Debian distribution.

I'm actually looking forward to checking it out one day. I did notice some issues with certain sites a while back when I was running Red Hat 9 with a Firefox release (can't remember version). I don't claim to know anything "indepth" about the Linux flavours, but it is something that I am interested in pursuing.

On that note, I am interested to know if you have any publishers/writers that you could recommend on the subject. I went through O'Reilly's Red Hat Linux and Apache texts one after the other - useless books if you ask me...the Red Hat Book didn't tell me anything that I didn't already know - The Apache book was ok, but Web isn't really the direction that I am going right now - I've been leaning towards the Cisco route lately.

PS - You really are quick to defend yourself. :)

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laugh all you like

by apotheon In reply to indeed it is

"I am perfectly aware of everything you just said. Just taking a jab at your undying love for the Debian distribution.": That's what I figured. Heh.

Feel free to look me up if you want someone with which to commiserate about all things Linuxy. In the meantime, if you haven't already, I recommend signing up to a LUG mailing list if you're going to be working with Linux at all. That is seriously the best tech support resource I've ever seen: LUG mailing lists. InfoWorld even once rated the Linux community as the best tech support "organization" of the year, despite the fact that it's largely more of a DISorganization.

"On that note, I am interested to know if you have any publishers/writers that you could recommend on the subject.": It depends on the specific subject you're talking about, of course.

For Linux in general, it has been my experience that books about Linux in the generic tend to be much more useful than those that focus on a particular distribution, particularly if they purport to be about Linux administration and the like. Unfortunately, it always seems like no matter how many Linux books you've got on a shelf, the one that has the answer you need to a particular problem at any given moment is a book you don't own.

You can find any information you need, generally, somewhere between documentation on the system, various resources online, and a LUG or two. O'Reilly publishes a great many very good books, but I have yet to find a Linux book from O'Reilly that I bothered to shell out any money on, with the exception of one pocket guide. Mostly, O'Reilly seems to be useful for programming references. The O'Reilly _Linux_In_A_Nutshell_ reference, though, is useful. I've been borrowing a copy for close to a year now.

For LUGs in your area, check out this URL:

"PS - You really are quick to defend yourself.": Nah, I'm just a windbag. Minor points of defensiveness serve as ready excuses to pontificate.

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meter == nice;

by apotheon In reply to indeed it is

Ooooooh, the meter all fits on one line for me now. Good work, guys! Thanks for the effort.

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We'll see what we can come up with

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Sir house replies

How about a hundred end users who are so knowledgeable that you have to turn on their computers for them every day as pushing that switch is just far too technical for them.

Does that sound bad enough?

Cheers Col

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Don't get me started

by house In reply to We'll see what we can com ...

I'm doing tech support at an ISP right now...don't get me started.

Someone told me "I've got the new acrobat ethernet virus thing"'s an inside joke now at the office.

There should be a "Funniest help desk calls" link here, would be a lot of fun, but it could insult others.

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