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This is (one reason) why I'm opposed to the Koyoto Treaty

By maxwell edison ·
China is exempt. Why?

India is exempt. Why?

And the selling of "credits" defeats the purpose. The aim is to either reduce emissions or not. It obviously is not, and it can not, and it will not -- regardless of how the USA replies. So what's the point?

How many of the people in the USA who cry about "American jobs" going to India and China, are the same people who cry about the USA's refusal to agree to the Koyoto Blackmail Scheme ..... I mean the Koyoto Treaty? Don't these people realize, since India and China are exempt from restrictive manufacturing processes, that manufactures will flock to those countries, and be accepted with open arms by those countries, thereby actually encouraging those jobs to leave American shores, and will actually ADD to the problem of air pollution? (Or "global warming", if you buy into that myth?)

Even the Democrats in Congress refused to buy into the scheme.

For the record. I'm in favor of reducing air pollution. In fact, I'm even in favor of working to eliminate air pollution entirely. But don't use the Koyoto scam or global warming scare to do it.

If these nations are exempt because they are "developing countries" (Yea, right!), and if developing new and clean alternative energy sources is so easy and is being prevented only because of will and desire, then what better way for a "developing nation" to become a significant nation than to do it with new alternative energy sources? If a nation, in theory, has to build an industrial society from the ground-up, why do it in a way that will only have to later be drastically changed or torn down? If it's going to be done the "first time", it might as well be done right. Right?

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Your links aren't very convicing

by afleader In reply to This is (one reason) why ...

First off, China's "no car day" is kinda like the US' Great American Smokeout. It's voluntary. The article doesn't say how successful it was nor does it address the much larger polition caused by their heavy industries.
The article about India only states that they are making money by selling their emmissions credits to industries that generate more pollution than others, steel being only one example.
In the end, it doesn't matter. The whole idea of "international law" is bogus in the first place. Every nation is soverign meaning they can choose to comply or not to comply. In fact there was an Economist article about two months ago which reported that not one signatour to the Kyoto treaty had kept it's promise to reduce their greenhouse gas emmissions. All of these nations have cited economic reasons for not cutting their emissions...job exportation is likely the biggest fear behind this.
The fact of it is this: The West HAS cut their greenhouse gas emissions greatly since the 1950s. Some of it through cleaning up industries, but most of it though job losses in manufacturing. The biggest problems we face in the US are twofold: cars that need a tune-up and citzens blocking the replacement of older power plants with newer, more efficient ones. None of this makes any sense, but we have the economy, the government, and the enviornment that we asked for. Maybe if we took responsiblity and maybe were willing to give in on things like power plants and car maintenance we wouldn't need to fret over a silly treaty like Kyoto.

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