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"This may be just a game to them now, but a war will not be a game for them

By Oz_Media ·
"This may be just a game to them now, but a war will not be a game for them later. In war, they will only face miserable defeat and gruesome deaths" These are the words of the Korean Press as written in Stars and Stripes, America's military news, pep-rally paper.

Full story:

"According to Stars and Stripes Pacific's translation of a North Korean government newspaper article, UbiSoft's forthcoming Ghost Recon 2 videogame, which envisions a near-future North Korea/China conflict with US involvement, has already attracted the reclusive country's attention. In a curt review, a North Korean government-run newspaper called the game proof of U.S. warmongering. 'Through propaganda, entertainment and movies,' read a recent online commentary in the Tongil Newspaper. Americans 'have shown everyone their hatred for us. This may be just a game to them now, but a war will not be a game for them later. In war, they will only face miserable defeat and gruesome deaths.' Given the steep learning curve of previous incarnations of Ghost Recon, it's conceivable many may face miserable defeat and gruesome deaths anyhow."

So the US in turn felt it neccessary to add this little comment to Stars and Stripes, MANY GR players are military as well as several bases will use Ghost Recon to simulate war for strategic planning and troop movement practice. I platy it with a licent over his network LAN almost daily if I am at home and it is truly entertaining as well as beautifully modded and rescripted by fans.

Now in a long term view, is this perhaps America's way of inviting dislike toward North Korea from the US troops (published in Stars and Stripes?). Are they now possibly feulling conflict with NK by showing this as hatred toward America?

Well if you leave Iraq say by next winter (positive thinking), that COULD be year 2 for GWB's second term (heaven help us all), perhaps that would then give him 2 years to fuel the NK issue and create another war before his term is completed.

Judging this purely on the Iraq actuins, it really isn't a far fetched assumption at all, in fact it would be damnwell mirroring Iraq. Fuel the fear and act upon it.

This guys is just plain scary, at least Hitler was clear that he wanted to take over the world and we all knew where he stood, or where he now rests.

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We've all done it :-)

by stress junkie In reply to LOL..oops!

I hate to think of the number of times that I made a
spelling error and didn't catch it before I pressed the
'Submit' button. I hate it even more when I rethought
something that I was writing and edited the words that
I had already written but left in a word that no longer
makes sense in the sentence. At least we don't see a
lot of that kiddie junk like "ur gr8". That stuff really
bugs me.

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by Oz_Media In reply to We've all done it :-)

I am probably the TR star at making spelling mistakes/typos. In actuality, I write a LOT of advertising copy but with that I take time and effort to ensure it is concisely worded and the grammar is correct. On TR, I rarely put any time into checking my posts, it somehow just doesn't matter as much as getting my thoughts out sometimes. They could REALLY use an edit feature here of all places.

As you mentioned, I often change a sentence or even the tense of the statement while forgetting to remove a previous comment and it ends up not making any sense. Oh well, I guess I am not ALWAYS right afterall, as suggested by some peers.

My typing is horrendous to say the least, I still use all the fingers but with no format to keep them in the correct rows and such. Much like I play piano and keyboards, except the tune sounds the same while teachers cringe at the fingering.

When I was in school, is was not acceptable for a guy to take typing and keyboarding, not when automotive and machining trades were being taught, thanks to that I have a stable trade to supplement me as needed, or if IT gets much more boring.

Oh well, at least I'm not the only one.

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Worries about nukes

by generalist In reply to Who cares - China / Korea ...

My biggest worry about North Korea is that we'll learn that they have nukes when they set one off near one of our bases in South Korea.

My next biggest worry is that they set one off in their own country in a way that could be blamed on the US.

The people in charge of that country are unpredictably nuts and shouldn't be trusted with anything more lethal than styrofoam rocks.

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They do

by Oz_Media In reply to Worries about nukes

"On Oct. 16, 2002, the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush disclosed that North Korea had admitted to having a program to enrich uranium for use in nuclear weapons. With its admission, North Korea, also known as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea or DPRK, abrogated the Agreed Framework signed in 1994 with United States, under which the North Koreans agreed to freeze their nuclear weapons program.

On Dec. 10, 2002, North Korea announced it would restart plutonium production and eject the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors who monitored North Korea's compliance with the Agreed Framework. On Jan. 10, North Korea withdrew from the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT), an international accord prohibiting the acquisition and proliferation of nuclear weapons. "

"...The ability to deter a U.S. led invasion and blunt U.S. coercive power is the primary objective of North Korea's nuclear weapons program. North Korea also likely sees its nuclear weapons program as a means to get leverage to extract economic concessions in negotiations with the United States and even its nuclear-armed neighbors, Russia and China."

Sounds VEY similar to Saddams WMD issues with GWB.

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There is no doubt

by JamesRL In reply to Worries about nukes

They have nuclear weapons and the intermediate range missles to carry them, and they are working on long range delivery vehicles. Currently they could hit US bases in Japan.

The estimates in terms of numbers is small - perhaps fewer than a dozen. But one hit on crowded Tokyo could kill millions and send world stock markets into panic....



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A couple of inconvenient facts

by stress junkie In reply to "This may be just a game ...

First, North Korea is like a high school delinquent standing on a sidewalk charging people a 'toll' to pass. The United States is like Hulk Hogan who could kick the punk's *** but doesn't want to fight so he pays the 'toll'. The relationship between the United States and North Korea has been one of the United States shipping billions of dollars to North Korea on a regular basis to shut them up. This has been true for several presidential administrations. The North Koreans keep making a lot of noise in order to keep the money rolling in to their pitifully wretched country.

The question of Chinese support for North Korea in a military situation is not clear. Period. Nobody knows.

Comparing any American president to Hitler is just stew ped.

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Comparing any American president to Hitler is just stew ped

by Oz_Media In reply to A couple of inconvenient ...

I am sure the Nazis would have said the same as most were in full support of saving Germany from these inferiors.

or as Maxwell would say, "if it walks like a duck...."

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I just love the Hitler comparison

by Chris@Aspenwood In reply to "This may be just a game ...

That kills the way, in case you left your history textbook closed during high school, Hitler was a socialist....can you repeat after me?
National Socialist Workers Party = NAZI

Hitler's social and economic beliefs were more more in line with the the Democrat mentality of state run health care, state controlling businesses, etc....Volkswagen ring a bell?
Last I checked, Hitler didn't liberate any country from a dictator and then turn the goverment over to the people and assist with free elections.

Oz, you're chump change when it comes to history and fact. Your best weapon is dropping propaganda bombs and explaining with far fetched facts or assumptions. Go back to school, study your history and then make comparisions to today.

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Tell your Republican Skipper that

by Oz_Media In reply to I just love the Hitler co ...

Well I just finished answering a post fro a pro-war supporter who has also equated this wwar to WWII and Hitler.

So I guess we are either ALL out to lunch, which you have no right to suggest anyway, why can't people defend a point without the derogatory comments to the poster himself (NOW THAT'S CHILDISH at best)so don't point the finger until you have at least heard the same from those you favour, you may be offending those who agree with you.

BOTTOM line on this WHOLE discussion though, this NEVER gets addressed and simply eldedby the Pro-Bush crowd. GWB used FEAR and misinformation to call your country to arms and create this MASS hatred toward Saddam. He then USD WMD to urge you into a war a few weeks prematurely and against your former allies wishes (well current allies, we don't just turn our backs and slander each other when the call to arms goes unanswered).

THis war was NOT properly justified, even though it is inevitably neccessary, I am not AGAINST the war at all, just the fact that nobody cares that GWB BS'd you all, never apologized for reporting misinformation and simply changed the focus, as ALL of you do anytime it is brought up.

All of a sudden it is MM supporter, Democrat, Anti-American, non-patriot or whatever, whereas I DON'T support MM or Democrats, I am not Anti-America allthough you can say I am anti-Bush like more than half the world.

You have all been so inundaated with Pro-Democrat's and Anti-Republicans you seem to foget, people in other countries don't give a damn what party runs America, just that when they are in office, they don't mislead the country (even that is OK, until they bring the rest of the world into it). NOw it is MY issue as much as yours, and I for one would not stand for our PM, acting that way, why wouldn't America do the same? Well from what I understand MUCH of America does, except it is hidden under a cloud of democratic propaganda and simply ignored by Reoubicans.

If that doesn't make any sense, I can send it to you in braille.

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Reply to OZ blather

by Chris@Aspenwood In reply to Tell your Republican Skip ...

I read your blather and listened to your opinion. I didn't change any subject, I simply took issue with your comparision of Bush to Hitler which any sane person knows is ridiculous. I pointed out some fairly major facts about Hitler that don't come close to the Bush comparision you assert. It seems you avoided answering my chief issue by accusing me of not addressing yours. There you go again :)Since the Hitler comparision is obviously foolish and you don't want to own up to it, I'll play your game:

You seem fixated on the "Bush mislead" it not true that Saddam funded terrorist families, gave safe haven to terrorists like Abu Nidal for years, defied UN sanction after sanction and brutually murdered thousands through torture and WMD use? Since that is all true, isn't it good he is gone and Iraqi's now have the power of self rule?
What part of Saddam being gone is a bad thing for you? Oh, that's right, forget about all of what Saddam did over the years....Bush freakin lied, that's more important isn't it? Ironically Europeans let Hitler lie to them for years and it took America to help liberate y'all. Can't you taste the irony?

Many intelligence agencies failed in their estimation of his weapons stockpiles....Bush looked at the evidence presented and made a decision. Right or wrong, the decision has been made and I for one believe the world is a better place with Saddam in a prison as opposed to a palace. To leave Iraq now would be a mistake, the job must be finished and if only the rest of the world would get fully behind the effort, we could have a model middle east democracy with which to spread further peace and liberty to a radical region of oppressed peoples. Quite honestly if the UN wasn't so tied up in the Oil for food scandal maybe they could have taken a tougher stance with Saddam and gotten his unconditional surrender of power without firing a shot.

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