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First off, Oz is not a Canadian citizen.

Secondly, by using my nationality or anyone's nationality as an insulting term, you simply do what you accuse Oz and others of doing. It nullifies your argument and puts you into the catgory of schoolyard bullies.

We have a license to gun them down, right?
After all, they get in the way of air traffic :)

Seriously they hire people to scare them off. I met someone who did it at Newark, they use dogs, in other places they use guns or flares that whistle like fireworks.

Coincidentally, there was a situation in Kelowna, B.C. this week with the police. They received a report that a man had been firing a gun at the local golf course. They found the man, put him on all fours, and the arresting officer wound up and kicked him straight to the face. Turns out the guy had a job scaring Canada Geese off the golf course. He had been trying to tell the officers that he had a license but they didn't stop to ask questions before kicking him in the face. A non involved party had a camera phone and made a video which made it to youtube.

Some people take out their brains when they put on uniform...
Maybe they don't want it to dribble and stain the crisp fabric?

that's me :)

Let me know if you get a handle on it. The only thing I sense at the moment, is to remain alert for tipping points.

The Tucson thing doesn't look like it. Close, but no cigar; unless we're in for a spate of them.

That crazy boy who shot 20 people was schizophrenic, not political. He had some political ideas, but any information or theory in his head was overwhelmed by the crazy.

As much as I blame today's "conservatives" for embittering political talk, I can't assign them the slightest responsibility for this murdering crackpot.

Re: ... today's "conservatives" for embittering political talk

We hear that claim all the time, but never accompanied with specific examples. Do you care to post some specific examples of such embittering political talk? Specific examples means full quotes in full context, either written or video.

I'd like to know just exactly what you mean by that. Perhaps others would as well.

I don't think that conservatives are the only ones throwing out nutty talk.

But if you want examples of what I consider to be wacky speach that stirs up hate and divides the country, here goes.

"I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out." Nevada GOP Senate candidate Sharron Angle, floating the possibility of armed insurrection in a radio interview, Jan. 2010

"This is what Hitler did with the SS. He had his own people. He had the brownshirts and then the SS. This is what Saddam Hussein so but you are comparing that. And I , I mean, I think America would have a really hard time getting their arms around that.''
Glenn Beck, claiming Obama's 'civilian national security force' is the same as what Hitler and Saddam Hussein did, Glenn Beck, FOX News' Glenn Beck show, Aug. 27, 2009"


"We Came Unarmed ? This Time" from a list of 'favorite' signs at Tea Party rallies.

"He has no place in any station of government and we need to realize that he is an enemy of humanity," said Rep. Trent Franks about Obama.

"Our nation was founded on violence. The option is on the table. I don't think that we should ever remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms." Tea Party-backed Texas GOP congressional candidate Stephen Broden, suggesting the violent overthrow of the U.S. government if Republicans don't win at the ballot box, interview with Dallas's WFAA-TV, Oct. 21, 2010

And let me be clear, I don't think that this kind of talk, however reprehensible, is responsible for a nut job with a gun shooting a congresswoman. But there is clearly evidence of embittering talk, on both sides of the aisle.

..... not from the quote itself:

.... floating the possibility of armed insurrection in a radio interview, Jan. 2010

She didn't float the possibility of an armed insurrection!

.... Glenn Beck, claiming Obama's 'civilian national security force' is the same as what Hitler and Saddam Hussein did

Big friggin' deal! How many times was Bush compared to Hitler?

.... suggesting the violent overthrow of the U.S. government if Republicans don't win at the ballot box

That quote didn't suggest the violent overthrow of the U.S. government!

NONE of those words are direct quotes.

But these are:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_brings_a_gun_to_a_knife_fight.html

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-latinos-punish-your-enemies-voting-booth_511932.html

http://teresamerica.blogspot.com/2009/10/chris-matthews-wishes-rush-limbaugh.html

I could go on, but I won't.

Besides, I've said many times in these threads that wars are caused by those who take away individual freedom and liberty. Is that also inciting violence? And is it a false statement? When was the last war waged by a people to restore freedom and liberty? When was the last war waged by a people who wanted to give up their freedom and liberty? The former question has many answers. The answer to the latter question is never.

People can - and do - reach a breaking point, as history has proven time and again, when their freedom and liberty is taken away. People have never reached a breaking point with more freedom, only with less.

Are people reaching such a breaking point? You're damn right they are! (Oh my! Is that violent speech?) I've even suggested that the day might come when some states want to secede from the union. Is that suggesting a Civil War? There are those in the media who would add that suggestion after reporting my original comment.

Example:

"..... the day might come when some states want to secede from the union", said Maxwell Edison suggesting the possibility of a second American Civil War. (Of course, I never suggested a Civil War.)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=340147&messageID=3406784&tag=content;leftCol

Nonetheless, it's not the angry tone of the language that should be condemned, but rather what's causing it. All too many people want to stifle the language as a means to advance an ever-increasing encroachment on individual freedom and liberty.

Thomas Jefferson even noted (I'm paraphrasing) that a rebellion now and then was a good thing to keep government in check.

(I kind of rambled all over the place, but what the heck!)