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value of certification

By Lumbergh77 ·
I'm pondering whether or not I should get certified. I'm a jack of all trades with skills in programming, tech support, networking, and databases and have almost 6 years of experience with a BS degree in Info Systems. I thought about going through the certifications process and getting the A+, MCSE, and MCDBA. This would take an entire year and cost around $2000 for training materials and tests (employer will not pay). Is it worth the time and money investment? Why not just study the books, go through the material I'm not familiar with (skipping stuff I'll never use), and forget about taking the tests? Wouldn't the be better spent working on side jobs and/or getting another degree to fall back on?

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by Lumbergh77 In reply to Don't need one
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you guys should go into business together

by secure_lockdown In reply to ...

just make sure you make the cheque payable to Oz Media.

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you guys should go into business together

by secure_lockdown In reply to ...

just make sure you make the cheque payable to Oz Media.

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Awww

by Oz_Media In reply to ...

Don't like it unless everyone agrees with you or something?

Are you therefore the only one entitled to or qualified to have an opinion or else you get pissy about it?

Gee no wonder why someone would need so many certs to get gainful employment. Personality works in most cases.

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hi there, OZ...

by secure_lockdown In reply to BS

i am a jack of all trades. and i watch specialists get paid 10x what i get paid and they don't have to know 1/10th of the broad knowledge I have to know to keep up with my job performance requirements.

all the specialists have to know is what they specialize in - and they have to know it very very well. they don't know anything else - just that. they couldn't get 2 windows machines to file share without calling MS tech support to save their lives.

specialists in LotusNotes, Peoplesoft, SAP, IXOS, Cognos -- you name it. all the BI app specialists will out salary you any day of the week with their eyes closed.

so why don't you quit selling CompTIA advertizing and get yourself a *real* job in the *real* IT world.

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by uofM In reply to hi there, OZ...

"i am a jack of all trades. and i watch specialists get paid 10x what i get paid and they don't have to know 1/10th of the broad knowledge I have to know to keep up with my job performance requirements."

That may be the case, but it's probably 10x harder to find someone to replace them. And not as hard to replace you. No offense, but that's the reality of things... its not how smart YOU are. But how much in demand that particular skill set is (or percieved to be).

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UofM???

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by Oz_Media In reply to

HOW MUCH YOU BRING TO THE TABLE.

You can bring a LOT more to the table that is seen as valued by an employer than most specialists can.


Specialist are needed by SOME companies, not most and definitely not all. You can earn more money working with a small or medium sized oranization by offering a broader skillset.

$100K-150Kyr for a specialist?

I have seen sales reps earn more and with far less skill and definitely less time in school. Combine your skillset and you should be able to top any specialist, well unless they are brain surgeons of course. Damn I made that much working from home last year, and that's JUST in IT work, not including other income from other sidelines.

Sounds like some people here have sold themselves short, or simply do not understand what a jack-of-all-trades really means.

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wow

by apotheon In reply to OR

Jeebus Cries, man. You make bank. Do you have any interest in sending any of that work my way?

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by Oz_Media In reply to OR

I recently lost those two contracts to oursroucing. Right now looking for a new permanent client for remote admin from home again or a REALLY lucrative offer to move.

I still get a regular flow of cars, when I make myself available to work, I have a pretty well setup garage plus a 3 bay garage I built with a guy a few years back on the mainland(well 4 but my 'project' is holding one bay up).

I also get a decent, well fair, residual income every months or so from music sales in Europe and the US.

I am not saying I am some millionaire, tycoon by ANY means, in fact FAR from it and like everyone else on the planet I am just paying the bills and making a go of it as best I can.
I guess my point is, people think that when IT work isn't available, the world ends and the sky falls in until the president fixes the market or the manufacturers stop moving to Asia or whatever pathetic excuse they choose, like NO certs, etc.

Any able bodied person on Earth with even half a brain can generate income. When I was younger, there WERE no IT jobs, not in the mainstream society anyway. People learned trades or just worked at whatever they could to get on with life.

I am sick of SO many IT people whining about the industry and how it is failing them and certs are the way to go, then people with certs say how the industry has lt them down, they have a cert and can't find work and then it's the college degree in computer science and so on and so on.

Why can't people just learn how to WORK and FIND work?

I don't see what the big headwrecker is, it's not a game of Mastermind it's just working. LOL!

Specialist smeshialist, everyone can lose a job and just guess who bitches loudest at society when it falls apart? The specialist, while the J.O.A.T goes back to some other job(s). !LOL

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