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value of certification

By Lumbergh77 ·
I'm pondering whether or not I should get certified. I'm a jack of all trades with skills in programming, tech support, networking, and databases and have almost 6 years of experience with a BS degree in Info Systems. I thought about going through the certifications process and getting the A+, MCSE, and MCDBA. This would take an entire year and cost around $2000 for training materials and tests (employer will not pay). Is it worth the time and money investment? Why not just study the books, go through the material I'm not familiar with (skipping stuff I'll never use), and forget about taking the tests? Wouldn't the be better spent working on side jobs and/or getting another degree to fall back on?

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On that same note

by Oz_Media In reply to

"its not how smart YOU are. But how much in demand that particular skill set is (or percieved to be). "

Provide multiple skill sets and you are hard to replace.

MUCH harder than hiring a specialist that some schools churn out like a meat grinder. The world is full of unemployed specialists. Not unemployed people with multiple talents.

SO lets even give you the idea that specialists earn more be peforming a single function than you can be providing ONE of you rmultiple skills. You better hope that company NEEDS that specialist forever and it doesn't go the way of teh MCSE cert where EVERYONE has one, which will happen in no time.

All of a sudden the specialist isn't special, his talent may be but he is easily replaed by someone willing to do the same job for less money, just look through the forums here for the best examples.

A jack of all trades, never unemployed.

My tow main clients have outsourced my position overseas, I used to magange a couple of networks form home for them.

This doesn't mean I am out of work or unemployed by any means though, in fact it just means I have more time to work on other things. I still have a stable and steady income though and am not actively looking for anything.

If I was a specialist? I'd be screwed.

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by ND_IT In reply to On that same note

Have you seen any job posting for a specialist?

Most ads are looking for the following: Windows 2000, XP, 2000 server, Linux, Solaris, Java, .NET, Lotus. Must have 5 years experience in each application, oh, and you need to know how to do plumbling and electrical work as well.

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by Oz_Media In reply to On that same note

One note of correction though, the services you listed were right but usually it says certified OR equivalent work experience. If you have two of three, no problem, they seem to be more interested in perosnality than anything else these days, undertanding just what it takes to build a great empire... a great team.

I have taken several positions in the past where I was by FAR the least 'qualified applicant' but had a better personality fit with the people in the organization. They look for people skills, the rest can be taught.

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by ND_IT In reply to On that same note

I think a company would rather hire someone with decent people and tech skills that can learn new things and adapt well to changes than someone with no people skills who punches out code for 8 hours a day and isolates himself in their cubicle from the rest of the world and spends their time on TR discussion boards, oh, might have offended someone :)

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and it sounds like you too...

by mrafrohead In reply to hi there, OZ...

"specialists in LotusNotes, Peoplesoft, SAP, IXOS, Cognos -- you name it. all the BI app specialists will out salary you any day of the week with their eyes closed.

so why don't you quit selling CompTIA advertizing and get yourself a *real* job in the *real* IT world."

So why not take your own advice???

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by Oz_Media In reply to and it sounds like you to ...

He's wrong anyway. It doesn't take an unemployment specialist to figure that one out.

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i didn't say I wasn't...

by secure_lockdown In reply to and it sounds like you to ...

I stopped applying for sys admin jobs long time ago. i am working on upgrading soft skills and project management skill sets.

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by Choppit In reply to BS

1. An employed specialist will always make more money than a Jack of all trades in the SAME field. The Jack of all trades will always have an easier time staying employed.

2. Since when did your value to a business have anything to do with your salary?

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That is the case here

by ND_IT In reply to Call me Jack.......

I choose the learn the things I need to know for the company (small business). You tend to wear different hats here. I don't have any certs, and am not looking to "specialize" in anything. I really don't want to spend my time and money on a cert or boot camp that I might not utilize.

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thats the catch 22

by secure_lockdown In reply to That is the case here

have you looked into how much it costs to get training on BI applications? makes the MCSE program seem like a bargain bin deal.

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