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Visiting the USA

By neilb@uk ·
or, rather, not visiting the USA.

I've been to the USA on vacation a dozen or more times. Love it and love you all. Although, on every flight I've filled in that silly green card with its stupid questions: "Were you ever a member of the Nazi party?".

Last time, I filled in my details on the new Electronic System for Travel Authorization, ESTA, a couple of weeks prior and although I have to reckon it the crappiest website ever invented, it was probably easier than trying to fill the card in on an economy flight table. The questions aren't any better: "Have you ever been or are you now involved in espionage or sabotage; or in terrorist activities; or genocide; or between 1933 and 1945 were you involved, in any way, in persecutions associated with Nazi Germany or its allies?". Ah, well... That would be telling.

Now, it would seem, we have to comply with the ESTA and pay for the privilege, starting on 8th September. OK, so it's only 14 USD but - and this is where I get slightly ticked off - the charge is not to pay for the service but is intended to be used to promote US tourism.

You want ME to pay for YOUR tourist promotion? Nope. Don't we Brits (and others) contribute enough to you tourism?

Now, I could fill it in now while it's free and it's good for the next two years but my passport needs renewing and the ESTA goes with it. And so does next year's trip.

It's the principle. The USA is a rich country and I go there to spend money - lots of it - on travel, accommodation, food and entertainment. I already pay US customs $2.70, a US immigration fee of $3.50 and a US animal and plant health inspection services user fee of about $2.50 every time I travel (and I don't get anything from that).

This year, I'm driving to Rimini, in Italy, and I'll pass through seven countries and not only will it not cost me anything when I cross the borders, I won't even have to show my passport.


My erstwhile membership of the Waffen SS will probably be quite useful in Switzerland.

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Make sure...

by AnsuGisalas In reply to I did check out Sicily

that it wasn't in fact a hotel deal you cannot refuse...

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Never let it be said

by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to Visiting the USA

that our 'fearless leaders' have any sense...

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Some piece of tourism promotion...

by AnsuGisalas In reply to Never let it be said

that form and that site...

Yes, come right in, but first, answer me these questions three...
WHAT is your name?!? Goering? Hitler? Goebbels? Hmmm?!?
WHAT is your quest?!? Terror? Genocide? Death and Destruction? Rebuilding the Reich?!! Hmmm?!?
WHAT is your favourite colour? Brown, maybe? Hmmm?!?

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by Ed Woychowsky In reply to Some piece of tourism pro ...

I worked with a guy who said yes when asked if he or any member of his family ever tried to overthrow the government of the United States. Turns out that his grandfather or great-grandfather was a Confederate General.

I wonder how Homeland Security would handle that kind of answer?

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by Juanita Marquez In reply to Some piece of tourism pro ...

Do you mean colo(u)r in the visible or invisible spectrum?


You have to know these things when you are royalty, you know.

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The reason is

by seanferd In reply to Visiting the USA

that not only will they bust you when they find out you were a member of the SS, but they can heap on additional charges for lying about it. Because that would be <i>worse</i>.

edit: That fourteen bucks is supposed to make you really re-think your position if you are going to lie, because you'll be out that fourteen bucks as well as not getting into the U.S. (Because being out the fourteen bucks would also be worse than not getting into the U.S.)

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But I love SS's

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to The reason is

So does that mean that I can't come?

Granted they are Ducati SS's but after all the Italian Government was a German Allie and right in there with the German SS, so does that mane that anything called SS from Italy is suspect too?

Yep I knew that there was a reason why I didn't go to the US this year and now I've remembered it. It wasn't that I was so busy but that they wanted me to fill in that silly green thing that isn't even at all "Green." :0

But no questions about Members of the previous Japanese Air Force asking if they where ever a failed Kamikaze?

Col :^0

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Well, they aren't as scary now.

by seanferd In reply to But I love SS's

Since the Japanese enemy at the time didn't have a cool buzzword name like the Nazis (whom many in the U.S. defended right up to the war).

Besides, we nuked the crap out of Japan, and and they were mostly killing unsympathetic brown people and future Commies who don't have a huge post-war lobbying concern. And since there weren't U.S. companies aiding the enemy in the Pacific as they did for the enemy in Europe (e.g., IBM), there may be additional guilt involved for the whole Nazi thing.

Hrm. Does Ducati USA sell the SS?
Don't see a super sport for 2010. Maybe they don't like the SS designation? :0 However, the name "Hypermotard" certainly grabs my attention.

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by santeewelding In reply to Well, they aren't as scar ...

That can only be a dog of mechanical intelligence.

HAL: tell us it ain't so.

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I'm probably not the right person to ask about this

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to "Hypermotard"

I gave up following the new Duc's when God Retired and the Rubber Band Motors became the only ones used against God's wishes.

Besides as he designed the Bevels which have a very unique sound and made a small underfunded Engine Builder into the only Successful Desmo Production Company in the world he must have been doing something right.

But those OHC Belt Drive motors just never interested me all that much. The Trellis Frames first used on the Pantha's that where the first of the "Rubber Band Motors" didn't look or perform anywhere near as impressively as the then current MHR's.

The need to turn the rear Cylinder hear 180 Degree's and fit a Down Draft Webber Carby certainly to me looked like a backward step and I was no where near as impressed riding one of those Rubber Band Things as the Bevels. Must be my age showing but then again God didn't like them either.

I just wonder what would have happened to their latter Racing Ambitions if he had of still been involved with their design and styling. Their last World Championship Winning Moto GP Bike looked really nice provided you didn't remove any of the plastic on it but I just can not get motivated with their Road Bikes even since they introduced the Fuel Injection that actually works. The new stuff may appear to go faster maybe but my old Bevel SS still shows most of the rubber band things a clean pair of heals whenever I turn the taps on and wear out tires.

Drives the Competition Crazy when they are unable to keep up with a 30 year old Duc on the race track on the very few occasions that I blow the cobwebs out of the exhaust pipes.

But did you know who is one of the biggest maker of Marine Engines? :0


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